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I could never find a way to hang BTW comfortably with sufficient weight.

How much do you hang?

Originally Posted by RockXP

How much do you hang?

18 right now. max was 25

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
What about guys who claim to gain 2 or more inches of BPEL through BTC (or SD) stretching?

One idea occurred to me recently. Last year, I downloaded an article from the PubMed (for a fee; can’t post it here) that provided a very detailed study of the suspensory ligaments of the penis. One thing that stuck in my mind was that certain strands of the susp. ligament actually align with and fuse with the longitudinal, dorsal strands of the tunica. As I let this idea sink in, it occurred to me that perhaps the entire dorsal surface of the tunica could be viewed as an extension of the suspensory ligament. In other words, it is possible to regard the susp. lig. as starting from the pubic bone and extending all the way to the tip of the tunica, just within the glans. Lig stretching may therefore be a very effective means for stretching the dorsal surface of the tunica, the tunica’s strongest and most resistant part.

It’s just an idea. This may remain a mystery until someone donates his body to PE research.

ModestoMan,
You may be onto something important here. Alot has been going through my head lately about dorsal thickening and upward curve. I wonder if the former causes the later. When I am 80% erect my shaft is straight however at the point where I am fully erect I have a 1/8” to 1/4” upward and left curve. I am not concerned about the curve but rather that it may be pointing :) to my limiting factors. Maybe this information could help me decide which angle would be most efficient for me to hang at.

I went through my log to see if I could correlate my best stats with a particular hang angle. I was surprised to see that I was hanging BTC before my length gains stalled. I was doing a semi-BTC, somewhere between SD and BTC due to skin burn. I did not like BTC because it made my lower back sore so I started to focused more on angles between SD and OTS.

I then asked myself, why would BTC be more effective that the other angles? Including SD fulcrum hanging?
Then something dawned on me. Wouldn’t hanging strict BTC or “In-The-Crack” (ITC) create a natural fulcum that would apply a more localized stress to the dorsal thickening (my LF)? I had to say… Yah Baby!!

So I have been hanging ITC for 2 weeks coupled with clamping/erect bends. I worked through a mild retraction phase which is much less acute now. I have not measured but have had a few very encouraging episodes with Ms S. She has been loving it again. It seems that when I “touch her end” it starts a whole new level of excitement within her… and me. I can only dream of what having another 1/2 inch would be like.

Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for helping put me back on track.

sheLovesIt

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
If the tip of your penis extends to your navel before stretching your ligs, it will extend no further after stretching your ligs.


Yes, not significantly I believe; depending on how successfully the target area is isolated. Looking at standard procedure for measuring BPEL, it’s done SO. My BTC gain of 1” shows SO and only to a lesser extent SU.
I don’t expect a full BTC inch would show up SU for anyone. Certainly, the lower the erection angle measured, the longer the BPEL measurement.

Although not dramatically, my exit point is lowered, as is my erection angle: enough to be noticeable, and better looking IMO; more hung, more masculine, although my flaccid length hasn’t changed much at all. I’ll be hoping for a flaccid hang bonus with tunica work + traction wrapping.

Ultracaster,

The attachment in this current thread shows a BTC thing I made; it will definitely help with back issues, and more.
Hanging Backpain

Ideal

Originally Posted by Ideal

Ultracaster,

The attachment in this current thread shows a BTC thing I made; it will definitely help with back issues, and more.
Hanging Backpain

Ideal


Ultra? :D I get that alot.

The problem is I have massive nuts (but a small unit), and they get in the way. Even straight down is a problem.
Another issue, before I sent my second bib to Davey Jones’ locker, I was getting no gains or fatigue with low angle attack, I had worked back to over 20 pounds, and I was just stretching pubic skin.
I started PE with a 6.5-7 LOT.

That chair is a good idea.

When I get my 3rd BIB, I’m going to build a straight out pulley system, and try that.
I need a change.

Not fair. I only get Ideal, if that.

You dumped the Bib in the deep blue then? I thought you were getting a replacement from Bib for that one. What happened?

Pulleys are nice. Smooth wheels make them ultra nice. No inertia, no squeaks.

Originally Posted by Ideal

You dumped the Bib in the deep blue then? I thought you were getting a replacement from Bib for that one. What happened?


No, I ment I just broke it. The busted hanger got shipped to Texas this morning.
Trying one last time.

Hello . Can someone please explain to me the term ‘fatigue’ in relation to hanging ? Thanks .

Originally Posted by sneaky
Hello . Can someone please explain to me the term ‘fatigue’ in relation to hanging ? Thanks .

sneaky,
Your best bet is to do a search on the words fatigue and hanging. You can also add the word Bib in there and see what he had to say on the subject. Simply, fatigue is the state where your tissues are telling you enough is enough. You are trying to maximize time spent hanging in a state just short of this level of discomfort. If you are a newbie then you should not hang until you condition your penis (newbie routine) so that it will be less likely that you incur an injury.

sheLovesIt

Thanks for the reply sheLovesIt .

I’m not a newbie to PE . I’m a newbie to hanging .. & The ‘search function’ I guess :p

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
I would guess that a guy starting with normal anatomy could gain at most 1” BPEL from lig stretching. There simply is not that much inner penis to be converted.

What about guys who claim to gain 2 or more inches of BPEL through BTC (or SD) stretching?

Are there a lot of men that claim 2 inch gains or more through SD stretching/hanging? I haven’t seen a lot. Lately I have been wondering myself if BTC/SD stretching is really the way to go. What led me to this thought was wadzilla’s friend. This guy gained over 4 inches in length and never stretched straight down. He always stretched SO or Straight Up. Of course, this is all heresay (from a friend of a friend on a forum), but it is definitely something to wonder about. If we are to trust this friend (and Wad says he does), then we know that you don’t need to stretch SD to make big length gains.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
One idea occurred to me recently. Last year, I downloaded an article from the PubMed (for a fee; can’t post it here) that provided a very detailed study of the suspensory ligaments of the penis. One thing that stuck in my mind was that certain strands of the susp. ligament actually align with and fuse with the longitudinal, dorsal strands of the tunica. As I let this idea sink in, it occurred to me that perhaps the entire dorsal surface of the tunica could be viewed as an extension of the suspensory ligament. In other words, it is possible to regard the susp. lig. as starting from the pubic bone and extending all the way to the tip of the tunica, just within the glans. Lig stretching may therefore be a very effective means for stretching the dorsal surface of the tunica, the tunica’s strongest and most resistant part.

This is interesting. Is the article you speak of the same article you posted about in your Testing the LOT theory thread?


TGC Theory | Who Says The Penis Isn't a Muscle?

"To leave the world a better place, to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived is to succeed." - Emerson

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
To try to answer this question, I went back through my MRIs from last year. In reviewing the MRIs, it became clear to me that the girth of my flaccid penis was actually notably SMALLER under my pubic bone. In other words, I should see less girth at the base when I pull my flaccid penis out, not more. The MRI was taken after I had already been hanging BTC for about 6 months.

By feeling alone I can tell you that my IP is skinnier than my OP when flaccid. How is it when erect? I don’t know, but I will find out. One thing that sticks out to me about men on Pornographic video’s is there amazing big buldge on their perineum. This thing is huge, and is very common in the “big guys.” I now believe the bulge is either
a) A very thick inner penis (possible, but what is the cause?)
or b) A very strong BC muscle (probably more likely than a, but I’m not sure yet.)

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
… which leads to another idea. Since the crura anchor to opposite pelvic rami, pulling outward on the shaft induces a widening force at the base of the shaft. It looks like the right, outside surface of the right CC is pulled to the right, and the left, outside surface of the left CC is pulled to the left. The shaft in the middle is stretched width-wise. Over time, the width of the penis may grow in response to this force. I never thought if it this way before, but I think it makes sense. The crura don’t have to split, they just have to grow width-wise.

Are you suggesting that when we hang we seperate the crura at the base more? This sounds painful, and scary!


TGC Theory | Who Says The Penis Isn't a Muscle?

"To leave the world a better place, to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived is to succeed." - Emerson

Remek, I believe it is a thick inner penis. What I have noticed alot in my few months of PE is that my inner penis is growing and getting stronger also. My inner penis is hard and strong when I get erections. I find myself feeling on it more just to wonder what it would be like if inner penis were to come out. I think it would be almost the same size as my outter penis. At least in girth and fitness wise.


Started 5.5 x 4.5 erect Length and Girth Goal 7 x 6.5 erect Length and Girth

Currently 5.9 x 5.5 erect Length,Girth and going !

Originally Posted by sneaky
Thanks for the reply sheLovesIt .
I’m not a newbie to PE . I’m a newbie to hanging .. & The ‘search function’ I guess :p


Great sneaky. Using the search feature to research a particular subject in PE is well worth the time invested. You may save yourself hours by doing things more efficiently or you may save yourself from injury. When I don’t find an interesting new thread I use search to gain knowledge.

My $0.02
sheLovesIt

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