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uncut hanger

Originally Posted by Gugliermo
It seems that de solution is to convert me in cut, and then restore foreskin…


That is a really BAD idea.

You are performing unecessary surgery for a very limited purpose.

Get a pump. Doesn’t matter if you are cut or uncut. PEforeal got all of his gains in length and girth from using a pump and jelquing.

If you really feel that hanging is the way for you to go get tps’s Redi-Stretcher where it doesn’t matter if you are well wrapped as you don’t need a wrap for up to 15 lbs.

To circumcize yourself when you don’t need to seems a radical action. Plus you will have a fair amount of PE down time as you recover from the procedure. Why do this if you don’t have to? Foreskin restoration (from pumps and what have you) is very painful - and as you already have a foreskin, why put yourself through all of that?

BAD idea.


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Originally Posted by Juri
Definitely the cut penis can endure more PE-force than the uncut and therefore has more potential for growth through PE


This is simply not true.

Wrapping techniques are a bit trickier, but this a sweeping statement that is basically nonsense.


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Hi, braveheart7!

Originally Posted by braveheart7
Well I m uncut and I have hanged well for two days .see you just need good wrap .the kind of hanger of mine is homemade bib style.
Ah but some chill feels in my penis today.

How much weight are you hanging? I suppose you re below 10 lb. Wait till you get in the real hanging 15+ lb. then you will see why there are no uncut hangers who gained over the 1 inch mark. And even the ones that came close to the 1 inch mark are very, very few. The foreskin will not allow you to hang the weights that your dick will need to get fatigue. It doesn’t matter how good you wrap. Even the famous SS4Jelq, who hangs already for more than 3 years (and gained 1 inch) recommends to cut off our sets in half (10 min, instead of the usual 20 min.) in order not to damage the foreskin of the uncut penis.

Besides SS4Jelq recommends hanging with the foreskin fully covering the glans of the penis, that means you will gain almost 1 inch of additional foreskin before you see anything close to 1 inch penis length gain.

Anyway, I wish you good luck! Maybe you will discover a method of hanging for the uncut penis, that would make a break through in our inability to hang effectively.
Best wishes:
Juri

Originally Posted by Juri
Even the famous SS4Jelq, who hangs already for more than 3 years (and gained 1 inch) recommends cut off our sets in half (10 min, instead of the usual 20 min.) in order not to damage the foreskin of the uncut penis.


Seems a lot smarter to break up your hanging sets than to go out and get yourself a circumcision.

Originally Posted by Juri
Besides SS4Jelq recommends hanging with the foreskin fully covering the glans of the penis, that means you will gain almost 1 inch of additional foreskin before you see anything close to 1 inch penis length gain.


Notice how SS4Jelq doesn’t say “Go get circumcised, then PE like a mad man.” He’s recommending slight changes to routines to accommodate the foreskin.

There are others here who have got very good results pumping and jelqing. There’s a lot that can be done. And I don’t buy this “no amount of wrapping technique will work” baloney. There are lots of ways to wrap. Slack just found a new one that he is having great results with: his foam wrap discovery seems to work well with his ADS weights, and if you look at the pictures you’ll see he is uncut.


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Hi, ThunderSS!

Originally Posted by ThunderSS

I think someone needs to do a lot more research. Juri, how long did you hang? Did you ever get the wrap problem figured out? How come you were up to 17 pounds and above?

I hang for over 4 months. I have to hang the 17+ lb. because the weights lower than that would give me no fatigue whatsoever.

The wrap is O.K.; feels very comfortable and I don’t have pain whatsoever during the hanging session. The problem comes at the end of the 2nd or the 3rd set where my foreskin begins to swell and I know from my experience I have to stop right now, otherwise my frenulum will break; not immediately during the hanging session itself, but few hours later, because the swelling of the foreskin becomes even more about 2 hours after the hanging session. I had this experience several times already and I don’t want to repeat it.

Juri,

I don’t know where to start. I think you are drawing a lot of incorrect conclusions here. And I also think you would benefit from reading as much as you can about how to correctly hang and then give it another attempt.


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To theorize that getting circumcised will guarantee a better chance of gaining length from hanging is a real stretch (no pun intended). THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES WITH ANY PE TECHNIQUE, due to the uniqueness of all of us. There is ONLY THE POTENTIAL FOR SUCCESS, depending on genetics, techniques and commitment.

Not everyone gets their dick bigger in the same way using the same techniques. If hanging is not working for you, try consistent manual techniques (jelqing, stretching) and/or pumping. I’m a living testament to the fact that almost all of my length and girth gains came from pumping/jelqing/TheraP,ACE wrap. Before rushing to put your dick under the knife, try something less invasive, i.e. switch PE techniques and stay with the program.

PEforeal


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Originally Posted by ThunderSS
Why not drop the weight way down and do more sets? I have an idea that you have jumped up in weight way too fast. What kind of hanger are you using?


I use the Bib-Starter. Well it seems that really I went pretty fast in upping the wait, but I was consistent in what Bib wrote in his threads. He said to up the weight gradually 1-2 lb. a week till I get the weight that brings me fatigue, then drop a little bit and hang with this weights that bring me fatigue in the 2nd set and if needed because of the fatigue to drop the weight even more.

So I followed diligently his advice - do the math - 16+ week x 1 lb. = 16 lb. + the initial 6 lb. I started with and you have it - my max weight in SO=22.5lb.

Originally Posted by Juri
I hang for over 4 months. I have to hang the 17+ lb. because the weights lower than that would give me no fatigue whatsoever.
The wrap is O.K.; feels very comfortable and I don’t have pain whatsoever during the hanging session. The problem comes at the end of the 2nd or the 3rd set where my foreskin begins to swell and I know from my experience I have to stop right now, otherwise my frenulum will break; not immediately during the hanging session itself, but few hours later, because the swelling of the foreskin becomes even more about 2 hours after the hanging session. I had this experience several times already and I don’t want to repeat it.


Four months is not a lot of time. You are still relatively new to all this.

Personally I’m sure you are hanging with too much weight for too many sets. Your frenulum should never be in danger of ‘breaking’, nor should you get the lymph build-up (which is what I would guess the swelling is from).

You need to dial it back. PE is a slow and steady wins the race endeavor. You can get frustrated if you are looking for results right away. When you are trying to make changes to living tissue you need to really internalize the idea that LESS IS MORE.

Your sense of ‘fatigue’ has to be fine tuned. If you hang 10lbs from your dick, guaranteed it will get fatigued. The effective level of fatigue is less perceptible than you might think.

The idea is to make the stress that you put on your unit small enough so as not to affect function and the circulation. Then follow up wearing an ADS (such as the Autoextender or the weights from Slack’s thread). The ADS is to be used in such a fashion that the stretch is barely noticeable, so that as your unit heals from the VERY small stress you have put on it it heals slightly larger. You get your gains by these increments.

The penis is a fairly durable organ and can withstand a fair amount of stress, but getting effective results is not about taking it to it’s utmost limits. If you do this your body will react by trying to protect itself - the recoil effect - which actually impedes gains or makes the gains you could be getting less.

Time. Patience. And careful attention to your body. That’s what’s going to lead you to success.


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Thanks Mr. Happy!

Sounds very wise. I’ll try my best in being moderate!

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
PE is a slow and steady wins the race endeavor. You can get frustrated if you are looking for results right away. When you are trying to make changes to living tissue you need to really internalize the idea that LESS IS MORE…..The idea is to make the stress that you put on your unit small enough so as not to affect function and the circulation. Then follow up wearing an ADS …The ADS is to be used in such a fashion that the stretch is barely noticeable, so that as your unit heals from the VERY small stress you have put on it it heals slightly larger. You get your gains by these increments…. but getting effective results is not about taking it to it’s utmost limits. If you do this your body will react by trying to protect itself - the recoil effect - which actually impedes gains or makes the gains you could be getting less.

EXCELLENT words for all, especially newbies, to remember.

Peforeal


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Originally Posted by ThunderSS
I have an idea that you have jumped up in weight way too fast.


Funny, I had that same idea.

Originally Posted by Juri
Sounds very wise. I’ll try my best in being moderate!


I hear you.

And the drive to get results is fine; I know it can be difficult to sustain patience, but you’ve got to look at this long-term.

Let’s look at the formula of Bib’s you are following. On paper you are doing exactly the right thing, but your body is responding with this swelling you described. That’s a Physiological Indicator (PI’s) that you are going too fast. Your body is trying to say “Hold on”.

If you drop the weight down to say 15 lbs and do three sets - just as an experiment - and you find that you don’t get the swelling then that is good. Just because it doesn’t seem as intense doesn’t mean it isn’t doing something. Slowly build the weight up. If you get that swelling then you know you’ve gone too far. Dial it back. You want to find the edge between stressing your body out so it reacts, and stressing it out to just before it does so.

Look at it from the vantage point of physical therapy. The whole conceit behind physical therapy is that you are making minor adjustments to compensate for the damage done be the stress: in TIME your body builds itself back up.

With PE your are both causing the stress and then rehabilitating it. You want to make that stress manageable and you need to spend the TIME your body requires to get results.

Remember you want to have a bigger dick, but you want to make sure that it works as well.


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