Why Near Infrared is better than FIR and US

Not at this point. At the moment the mysterious guessing game about the for some reason absent application leaves too much room for speculation only.
Pre-marketing fishing? Is it?

I did my morning routine without my ir wand and it was way less.succesful. to me thats proof enough.

I mainly use it at the base and part of the upper shaft while hanging fpr 20 min then 5 min without during cooldown.

I looked and the red.light is 660nm for the model I use.

Not sure but I can feel internal heated some after.using it and seem to have some effect. Fwiw

I wore the penimaster (with the vacuum head I purchased years ago) and immediately wrapped it with the NIR pad, which has just the right size to close around it.
I started with 15 minutes irradiation, after which I remove the pad and kept the pm for ~3 or 4 hours, usually with a short time off in the middle. Not very consistent in hours or days, though; I basically wore it when I could. Sometimes for 6 days in a row for 5 or even 6 hours, sometimes not for an entire week.

In the last few days I started pumping, and I must say I find it way better than extending for many reasons. It requires less time, it’s easier to wear (no need to worry about micro holes in the silicone sleeves, giving away the vacuum suction), and even more, the entire penis gets better irradiated - there are no rods and silicone sleeves to shield the skin, even if silicone absorption is very low in the infrared range.
Now I’m tying increasing irradiation to 30 minutes.

Usually you want emitting power >150 mW/cm2, which gets focused on the penis when you wrap the pad around it.
I wouldn’t go <100 or >250, even if the latter is more a safe scruple - I have no specific data to support it yet.

Be careful, most times when they mention ‘red light’ they use 660nm wavelength, which can be good for skin and wrinkles, but not for PE - at 660nm radiation depth is too shallow.

Not sure I understand what you’re saying. What is supposed to be the absent application? You mean me not suggesting a specific product?
I did my best to avoid it on purpose, or it would have been easy to say I was just trying to market a product

At 660nm radiation will (slowly) heat up your skin, while IR gets to dermal fibroblast and triggers biochemical reactions in your dermis. Internal temperature is going to be lower, which is safer but unfortunately way less effective. In my experience I’d say FIR is more effective at PE, thanks to heating deeper tissue, than 660nm red light, at any emitting power.
660nm as I said is NOT near infrared: it’s just red light.

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Usually you want emitting power >150 mW/cm2, which gets focused on the penis when you wrap the pad around it.
I wouldn’t go <100 or >250, even if the latter is more a safe scruple - I have no specific data to support it yet.

Do you have a pad that you found that has this level of powder? Everything I am finding is a lot lower.

You can find articles discussing the required/preferred wave lengths, and some more pricy options for devices include Novaalabs (yes, two "a", what I have). Specs cut from site:

240 x Infrared 850 nm lights + 120 x 660 nm lights for a total of 360 light chips

the 660 wave length is the red light, 850 is the NIR.

You can poke around their site (and a number of others in same price ranges) for multiple types of devices. This is cut from specs for a pad that can be loosely wrapped around a tube, stretcher, whatever. It has settings for just red, only NIR, or combo. The site also has details on the wave lengths, effect, etc.

That’s a very common IR pad being sold under many different brands: it has 120 chips, each with 2 emitters in 850nm and 1 in 660nm.
I could bet it’s produced in China and rebranded every time - I tested at least 4 pads from different vendors which in the end proved to be always the same. You can buy it straight out of China for a fraction the cost of most western brands.
Good news, it’s actually above average in terms of performances. Bad news, it’s remarkably fragile in the most stupid way: you might expect the failures coming from the IR chips, but actually the worst part of it is also the simplest, the power plug (where you connect the cable to the pad).
Of the 4 pads tested, 2 of them stopped working after 2 or 3 weeks, another slightly after that.

I know, it’s not easy to find - but not impossible: usually most recent pads have this level of emitting power.

Attached there’s a measure of the pad I’m using.

I can only attest to having used this one for over a year without issue. They also offer laser-based devices for more point-focused treatments.

I am pretty sure NIR is around 750 nm to 1400nm, so you have a FIR pad/unit, which is certainly fine. It’s just not in the NIR spectrum as I understand it. I don’t think it’s a question of the power of the unit to generate a higher spectrum, rather it’s the spectrum sought.

I also add that both NIR and FIR are invisible to human eye, so you have a combo red light and FIR?

So it’s been some time; that’s very interesting.

I’d be grateful if you could briefly answer these questions:

- How much did you use it, in terms of overall hours?

- What’s your routine?

- How much did you gain?

That was a power emission measure (2115 W/m2), not wavelength of course. [By the way, 2115 nm would have been in short infrared, not FIR]
I hope after years of research in IR I don’t find out I’ve been using FIR instead of NIR without noticing.
Obviously you can have a device emitting in a specific wavelength with different levels of emitting power.

Yes, most pads include emission in red light too - it makes much easier to check when they’re switched on and working; red light emission also has a positive effect on dermis cells, so it’s not useless. That’s why the chips I mentioned above, each with 2 emitters in 850nm and 1 emitter in 660nm, kind of became mainstream.

I am always happy to learn! I am by no means a scientist nor engineer. Full cut specs:

Red Light (660NM): Activates cell regeneration, reduces inflammation and pain, increases collagen production

- Infrared Light (850NM): Penetrates deep, reaching tissue and joints to activate the auto-repair of cells

The strength of the lights is:

141 mW / cm, 1 inch away from the skin
200 mW / cm when in contact with the skin
Again, flaunting my cursory math skills as well, would the 200 mW/cm closely approximate the 2115 mW/m on your readings? One inch away then dissipates. I got the NIR wave length range I quoted from various web sites where I just plugged-in near infra red and far infra red wave lengths and got that upper end of 1400 for NIR. I did see some references to a mid-range. As for longevity, I have not tracked, and I also used extensively for knee pains from running last year. I have not dedicated efforts to gain with it so I can’t tell you results in that regard, I just know it provides a distinctly different feeling of heat for me to use around a tube. My focus is more on general maintenance and function at the moment.