The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth

Can’t really say much more than a thank you to you and everyone else involved in putting this information together. This deserves more of a recognition than it has gotten so far.

Good to see you back Longerstretch

This is nice work man!

I have read Kyrpas thread but sometimes it’s hard for me to follow and understand that rather complex and difficult English used there. This is easier to understand for one not having English as first language.

Absolute gold, my friend. 🤓

Thank you for your feedback Patrik. I will keep that in mind and put writings up with lesser cryptic fashion :)
The intention is not do Xenolith with texts that cryptic they had to be sent to the Vatican Library for interpretation work continuing for decades.

I love this!
I will say Kyrpa, you are on another level. That is a good thing, it is what is needed.
Do not change your approach or reporting of your findings…. we will let you know when to dumb it down for us simple dick pullers.

I really like read your thread Kyrpa. As I see it you are the leading US explorer here. If it’s possible to write down your thoughts with easier words I think there is a bunch of guys out there that could absorb your text.

Hey guys, I love this thread, but it’s a little dense for me. Is there any chance one of you could prescribe an example routine for say year 1, year 2, year 3, or something similar, for someone wanting to translate all of this into a specific routine?

Maybe years is the wrong denominator and months or % length increases or something would be preferable. Whatever you could suggest, anyway, in actual routine suggestions, would be greatly appreciated.

Congratulations to everyone involved in the study of ultrasound applied to PE.

I ended up buying a device that supports 1mhz and 3mhz for about $ 265.

Studying on our own about US on the internet, I saw that it is also used in beauty clinics for localized fat reduction. I don’t know if anyone ever had this idea of ​​using US to decrease the fatpad and improve NBPEL measures. Since in the studies there are indications of decrease of 1 to 2 inches of localized fat.

Thank you guys. I came a little late to this scene. I was on about an 18 to 20 month decon while kyrpa and manko were exploring these things late last year. I came back in June of this year and was reading similar threads to manko and kyrpa before they made their discoveries. Once manko did his experiments, or more accurately I read the results, I immediately bought an ultrasound machine after hours of research. My routine naturally evolved to something similar to kyrpa and manko’s routines. Even though it was mentioned 10 years ago they are the ones that took it seriously and thankfully did their own experiments for all of our sakes.

1st year after newbie routine, extender work or low tension high time hanging like with vacuum hangers.

Once those gains have been exhausted move on to the routine or a routine like the one outlined here for length. Girth is still being explored by kyrpa and once I reach my length end goal I’ll be experimenting as well. Ideas are brewing.

I wouldn’t trust it in that proximity of bladder, maybe at low intensity levels. I do plan on testing it soon during my cut to reduce my lower body fat. I’ll report my findings but my diet and exercise plan is pretty good so it’ll be hard to say what’s what.

What does rock for localised fat reduction is FatBusting (DIY cryolipolysis/AKA Coolsculpting). I’ve done this for a while now on my stomach and fat pad. It works without a doubt. All you need is ice :-) Take a look at:

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I used the copper bottle + ice + chilled salt water technique outlined by sodium100mg.

Hmm very interesting I will give it a look. Thank you

First off, great information. Second, I don’t know if the “Stress” part has been covered yet. But here it is for the scientists..

I have an idea for developing their own accurate Stress-Strain Curves and possibly for girth as well. To begin, Strain is the easier thing to measure. As stated previously,
“Calculating strain is pretty easy. It’s post measurement divided by pre measurement minus 1 and multiplied by 100.

[(Post-BPSFL÷pre-BPSFL)-1]×100

For instance pre measurement was 21.8 cm and post was 22.4 cm.
[(22.4÷21.8)-1]×100
[1.0275-1]×100
[0.0275]×100
2.75% Strain for that day.”

Stress can be the more difficult one to measure for those using different devices. For length, you need two things to calculate Stress:
1) Force of stretch
2)Cross sectional area of stretched penis

Stress is a unit of force per area (area orthogonal to force) such as pound per inches squared (lb/in^2) or newton per centimeter squared (N/cm^2). So those using weights can find their force easily, as it is the weight they use. For those not using weights (me), I would recommend buying a *Spring Scale* to measure Force of your device. Simply replace your penis with spring scale and pull until it has reached the same length as your penis would have. This will be your force.

Cross sectional area of stretched penis can be measured two ways.
1) circular penises: Area = pi times radius squared
A=pi*r^2
Stretch penis and measure width (diameter) then divide by 2 to find radius.
2) Ellipse shaped penises: Area = pi times small diameter (a) times large diameter (b) divided by 4
A=pi*a*b/4
Stretch penis and measure both small width (diameter a) and large width (diameter b)

Now the stress can be found. Example: I have an ADS that is an elastic band. I use the spring scale to stretch the band to the tension it is when I wear it. It measures 1.5 lbs or 6.67 Newtons. Now I calculate the cross sectional area. I have an ellipse shape so the small width is 1.0 inches (a) and the large width is 1.7 inches (b). The the cross sectional area is pi*1.0*1.7/4 which equals 1.33 in^2 or 8.61 cm^2. So my stress is 1.5 lbs divided by 1.33 in^2 which equals 1.12 lb/in^2 or 0.775 N/cm^2.

General form of Stress Equation:
Stress = [force (lb)] / [cross sectional area (in^2)]
Or
Stress = [force (N)] / [cross sectional area (cm^2)]

One thing to point out is that different stretching techniques may yield different *Strain* results. So for the most accuracy, document the weight with stretching technique(s) separately if possible.

Now an accurate Stress-Strain curve can be developed. Stress is the y-axis Strain is the x-axis.

Thanks for reading. Let me know what you think!

The cross sectional area change during stretch is so minute for most of us that load - strain curve serves us fine.
Our penile anatomy and exercise history vary that much between individuals that the results can be read as directional not absolute values.
It is a individual curve which can guide us to determine loads we need to use in our exercises.

If we are to compare values with each others then the cross sectional area should be taken in account.
I don´t know as there is no data how much variance there is between us at the end with data sets gathered.

I encourage everyone to study the behavior of his unit under stretch.

Do a simple test. Measure the pre -exercise BPFSL. Then start with a 0,5 kg load and measure BPFSL again after 10 minutes. Then incresase the load every 10 minutes by 0,5 kg etc. After few increments the initial elasticity of the toe region ends and tissue starts to stiffen at the transitional region and no longer elongation is available within 10 minutes intervals.
Penis has a non-linear stress- strain (load-strain) curve typical with visco-elastic properties typical to biological soft tissues.
It stiffens radically resisting any stretching attempts at certain threshold load. If we keep on increasing weight a lot eventually there is proportional range with elastic behavior again.

The curve looks the same with each of us but the threshold loads can vary significantly.

Visco elastic behavior of the penis
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