Why do kegels not work for me

Kegels does not seem to work for me. It does not give me a harder erection, nor does it seem to give me night or morning wood? That said, I haven’t really had night or morning wood throughout my life. Only rarely.

At this point I do 50 kegels after workout every other day. Workout is the linear newbie routine, so really nothing fancy that should wear out my dick.

It does not seem to give me softer erections either, but I have actually noticed that I seem to last shorter during a masturbation session, then before?

I don’t know if it’s recommended by vets here but my start with kegels were something like this(after 1-1,5 week I’ve noticed better erections lasting longer more volume of the titty lotion etc.):

Simple contraction and release- 100 and increasing to 300. After that, for about 3-4 weeks it was like 0-300 simple contractions or maybe call them 1-sec Kegels and 5 sets of 30-secs. That massively increased the feeling during stimulation and there was a real shooting range during blow jobs.
Next, I gradually increased 1-secs Kegels to 100-1000 and slowly to 10 sets of 60-secs Kegels. It was my daily routine and sometimes I got a feeling that I couldn’t hold a pee which I considered as a feeling of good training. Good to add I haven’t got any ED or injuries connected to Kegels so far. This is what I recommend to You but use it wisely and listen to the language of Your body. And gain gain gain gain!
P.S. For about a year I used the Kegels routine from Polish PE site which requires about 20-25mins- extreme but worth it. You should notice a difference in shooting force after doing long Kegels. It works!

I must admit that in my opinion Kegels are the most important PE or PE-connected exercise.

50 tense for a few seconds and then relax kegels isn’t much.

You can do them while watching teevee, on the computer, or driving. And as Tidio mentioned, it is all about total time invested. Start out gently and work your way up. Once you are acclimated you can play around with varying the speed and duration of individual kegels.

Try holding each kegel for a longer period of time.

Dr. Barbara Keesling’s Kegels routine:

Every day, three times a day, flex and relax the muscle group twenty five
times. Make sure that you have isolated the muscle and that you
are not tightening your abdomen, buttocks, or facial muscles during the
exercise. Keep every other muscle in your body as relaxed as you can, and
remember to breathe evenly as you squeeze and relax.
It may take you a while to work up to twenty-five repetitions. If you are
older or overweight, you may want to start with only five or ten repetitions
and then gradually work your way up. Don’t do more than twenty-five repetitions
at a time, or your PC muscle may get sore. It will take about three
weeks for the muscle to get in shape, and then you really need to do this
exercise every day for the rest of your life. It is an important part of maintaining
your sexual fitness.

After you have done the basic PC muscle exercises for three or four weeks,
try this more advanced version. In addition to twenty-five quick repetitions,
add ten slow repetitions.Try to gradually tense the muscle for a count of
five, hold it for a count of five, and then push it back out for a count of five.
The first time you try this exercise you may only be able to do it once or
twice. Eventually, you can work up to ten repetitions. Then try a version of
the exercise where you tighten the PC muscle for a count of ten, hold it for
a count of ten, and release it for a count of ten. It may take you days or
weeks to accomplish this. How much time it takes doesn’t matter; the
improved muscle tone does.

Wait a second. I ALWAYS clench my asshole when I kegel (not just my asshole, I feel the PC muscle contract, too). Can any of you guys really do these without puckering your butthole?!?

Hmm I will try MrB8 version, but I really doubt that my PC muscle is out of shape. I’ve always used it, even since I was 12 or something and I can hold it almost to the point where I orgasm. It just doesn’t seem to respond in a positive way when I excercise it. :S

I think the most I’ve trained it was 100 times a day with 5 second holds and still with no better (or even slighty worse) EQ.

She meant the gluteal muscles, Abs, etc… she never singled one of the pelvic floor muscles out, hence “The muscles group”

I too have had some mixed results with kegels. It’s the only part of the newbie routine that doesn’t seem to be benefiting me much. They haven’t really helped me to last longer during intercourse. Aren’t they supposed to help that? Maybe I’m doing them wrong? One time I even got a kind of cramp at the base of my ding-dong way back under & behind my nuts. Kinda reminded me of this sharp pain I sometimes get there when I like jump down from something like the back of my truck or off of a small platform (2’-3’). Any thoughts vets?

Nothing from the vets ?

William

I am not a veteran at all, but I had similar problems when I started kegeling. It’s all about isolating the right muscle - now that (for me) is a concentration thing. I still chuckle about myself because it seems to be so easy to loose that concentration. And as I am kegeling now for 10 weeks I may tell you the trick. So the most important thing is: time and disturbance-free environment. I use train commuting as appropriate space for Kegeling. If I am doing it at home (e.g when watching TV) I get so focused I forget what’s going on around and suddenly Madame gives me a smile and asks me “kegeling again?”. Well, we men can’t do too much things in parallel, I guess.

Just focus on that tiny muscle you need to stop the flow when pissing. That’s the only muscle to be trained. I really have to concentrate hard to be able to isolate that one without contracting all pelvic muscles. But it is working when you get it once. Another hint is the sitting position. I feel I can better work on my PC muscle when I am sitting upright, both feet on the floor and legs slightly parted. And no tight trousers too.

I am doing 4 different types of Kegels (gradually build it up, this is now the final stage):
On a daily base:
- Quick ones (about 60 to 90 contractions per minute for 5 minutes)
- Fast ones (10 second contractions, 5 sec resting, for 15 minutes)
- Slow ones (60 second contractions, 15 seconds resting, 20 repetitions)
And twice a week Superkegels (at least 120 seconds, 30 seconds resting, 30 repetitions)

I admit I may be a little fanatic on the Kegel side, but I have better EQ already and especially I can voluntarily use Kegels as orgasm-booster. When you have sex and feel that you are exactly at the “point of no return”, I now do a Superkegel and it feels like my orgasm is getting stronger and stronger as long as I hold the Kegel contraction. It can be so hard you will be surprised. And the feeling you can control your own penis as if it was an musical instrument you play with gives a lot of power in our biggest sex organ - the one between our ears.

In sum, I do think it is worth the training effort!

Just my two cents

Richard65

Thanks for the respond Richard :) .

The thing I don’t understand is: even if you tighten all the pelvic muscle, it still means that you’re training your PC muscle too, which should result in stronger erections right?

Hmm maybe my PC muscle isn’t an inhibiting factor for me regarding EQ. I’ve used the super kegel thing for years, whenever I orgasm, and I’ve almost always been able to lift my unit with contraction and I discovered how to stop the pee flow (that is; flex the muscle) when I was 9 or 10 y/o.

Maybe I don’t see improvements because it’s already athletic :) . Though, then I’m sure something else is doing something because I cannot last very long, nor do I get spontanious erections or rock hard erections at night/morning. Sometimes my erections are not very firm at all

William

I am sorry, I misspelled it. It’s the BC, not the PC muscle. The BC stops urinal flow, PC is the base pelvic muscle that controls the anus too.
I try to focus on BC exclusively.

For the general blood flow enhancement in the pelvic area I give myself a base Chakra massage.
This means to give a robust 5min massage to the region between anus and scrotum.
I think it helps too - I do it between stretching and jelqing in the Newbies Routine.

I can’t make a different statement regarding EQ troubles than: every man is different.
As I am a newbie it would probably be all wrong, whatever I say.

I can just talk about my own body reactions to the first 10 weeks of PE.
Sorry for not being able to offer more help.

Best regards

Richard65

Ah I see. I actually thought they were the same.

I will try the massage, I think, with the kegels to see if anything happens.

And yes I understand what your saying. It’s frustrating for me though to experience my body “not” reacting despite reading about countless other men getting a lot of response doing the exact same thing.

William

I understand your frustration, but I think the good news is you were just working on a wrong set of muscle. Therefore hope remains.

I needed myself 2-3 weeks until I could really differentiate between PC and BC muscle and do my exercises without missing the BC muscle to work on. It’s like riding a mono-cycle, the first attempts you think “I’ll never make this in my entire life”. A few days later you already make some meters without falling down or using the full street for the whirling arms in order to keep the balance.

Practice is King :-)

Wish you good luck and a good focus!

R65