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# The REAL AVERAGE

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Shit, you mean we don’t measure from the asshole! All that ass bleach wasted.

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Originally Posted by hobby
Then there are different degrees of bone pressed. I remember measuring BP once before discovering PE. Length was somewhere between 1/8” and 1/4” shorter than my initial PE BP measurement. The difference was how hard I pressed in the ruler. Around here we jam the ruler in hard — much harder than someone else measuring you ever would.

Or go at an oblique angle with the ruler. And what about curves, if one could straiten out a curve this could translate into a different size altogether.

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I think it’s a lot like measuring vacuum. When I was involved with refrigeration and automotive mechanics, everyone measured vacuum in “inches of mercury”. No vacuum = barometric pressure, so the vacuum is 0” of mercury(Hg) below the barometer, as in a mercury filled, atmsopheric referenced manometer. A “good” vacuum was 28” of Hg, meaning 28” of mercury below the current barometric (atmospheric) pressure. That seemed to be a good enough system for auto mechanics and “old time” refrigeration techs. When I got involved in ultra high vacuum and medical(scientific) pressure and vacuum measurements, where it became painfully apparent that, the “system” I was accustomed to was not wrong, but just NOT VERY PRECISE, in that it was always referenced to the variable “current barometric pressure”. If the Barometer showed 29.5” “stormy” no one could ever go beyond a “vacuum” of 29.5”(below atmospheric) but if it was a sunny high pressure day )(BP=30.5”) it would take 30.5” to achieve the same kind of “vacuum” in terms of absolute pressure. So it is exactly like NPB, how much fat pad is there, how much was it “squashed” ? You cannot know, unless the measurement is referenced to a relatively stable and reproducible reference, i.e. pressing the fat pad, or BP measurements. Further, but probably way less significant way, is how much pressure is on the ruler for BP measurements. Most of us probably push quite hard so as to get the “best” BP measurement so it doesn’t make too much difference, but it could. But for NBP, some of us, like me, having a fair amount of body fat so we lose a lot of NBP to the fat pad. It is all a matter of frame of reference, only for PE, the reference is related to the individual’s fat pad thickness. So critically thinking, any measurement that does not give the measurement conditions (reference) is not likely to be very meaningful, in our frame of reference. It becomes apparent to anyone seriously involved in measurements or scientific analysis, that the “frame of reference” and measurement conditions are as important as the “raw measurement is. Hey, this isn’t rocket science, but just paying attention to details that can be significant.

Originally Posted by beenthere
Studies are usually nbp, though perhaps they shouldn’t be.

Yes, but they’re also mostly done on young guys who likely don’t have much of a fat pad. So, as has been discussed on other threads, the difference in NBP and BP is probably 0.5” or less for the populations studied.

Using BP measurement is still probably pretty accurate for general purposes of comparison, and has been pointed out, the only possibly way to measure for comparison purposes in PE.

FF

Starting, summer '06: 6" EL, 6.5" BPEL, 5.5" EG / Currently: Approximately .4" length and .25" girth gains / Stretched ligs .5" - .6", increasing PBFL and flacid hang

Goal: 7.25" BPEL x 5.75" EG, currently over HALF WAY THERE! on length and ACHIEVED GIRTH!

Piercings: 4 Gauge PA (currently not wearing), Two 4 Gauge upper frenums, other non-genital

Originally Posted by FrenumFellow
Yes, but they’re also mostly done on young guys who likely don’t have much of a fat pad. So, as has been discussed on other threads, the difference in NBP and BP is probably 0.5” or less for the populations studied.

Using BP measurement is still probably pretty accurate for general purposes of comparison, and has been pointed out, the only possibly way to measure for comparison purposes in PE.

FF

How deep do you go, if I were to make BP more accurate I would press it in as far as it would go into the fat pad. This is why I think the bottom measurement is more accurate, no fat pad there.

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If it is bone pressed, then I am above average. YAHOO! However, NB, I am below average.

As is, I will take my 6.25” BPEL and act like it is above average.

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3/2/2008 16cm BPEL 11.2 cm EG (3 weeks into the newbie routine, may have grown slightly, but...)

3/16/2008 16.5 BPEL 11.2 cm EG

Goals: 17.8cm BPEL 12.7 cm EG

sailboatracer, good points.

If I were to conduct a study concerning erect length I’d design a measuring device with either a low-friction sliding measuring end (think of the height measuring gizmo in the doctor’s office), or, if you don’t want to depend on head rigidity, an optical scanner. It would have a “bone pressing plate” of standardized dimensions and incorporate a tension gauge so the reading is taken with the same pressure againt the pubic bone each time.

The subject would attain the best erection possible, press the device against his public bone until it clicks, beeps or whatever, and there’s the measurement. Repeat x times.

I’d also record bodyfat percentage because despite consistent pressure any measuring device won’t reach as close to the pubic bone on someone at 50% fat as a guy at 10%.

Originally Posted by hobby
Sailboatracer, good points.

If I were to conduct a study concerning erect length I’d design a measuring device with either a low-friction sliding measuring end (think of the height measuring gizmo in the doctor’s office), or, if you don’t want to depend on head rigidity, an optical scanner. It would have a “bone pressing plate” of standardized dimensions and incorporate a tension gauge so the reading is taken with the same pressure againt the pubic bone each time.

The subject would attain the best erection possible, press the device against his public bone until it clicks, beeps or whatever, and there’s the measurement. Repeat x times.

I’d also record bodyfat percentage because despite consistent pressure any measuring device won’t reach as close to the pubic bone on someone at 50% fat as a guy at 10%.

This would work, this gage idea.
I’m at about 15% body fat, not bad for an old fart like me at the ripe old age of 43.
At one time I was ab out 30% body fat, depressing that was over ten years ago.
Some skinny dudes have thick fat pads, do cardio and Abb slide to reduce fat pad.
If you are retaining water your penis will be shorter but it might be thicker.

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