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Stupid question once again.

Stupid question once again.

Once again I believe I may have asked this but. I have noticed it seems like people who are overweight are making gains. I haven’t seen anyone who are slim or skinny make any gains.

I am speaking of actual erect size / NBPEL not BPEL. I am sorry guys I just do not see BPEL is a viable or truthful way to Measure gains. Especially when you may have 1.5 to 2 inches of fatpad.


Start: APRIL 2022: 5.5 BPEL X 4.5 Girth

NOV 2022: 6.65 BPEL X 4.75 Girth

GOAL: 8.5 BPEL X 5.5 Girth


Last edited by Ross347 : 04-09-2022 at .

Anyone and everyone can gain in my opinion. I’m on the thin side and haven’t had a problem gaining. Yes, I completely agree BPEL is not a true measurement in my opinion. Visibly it doesn’t show the true length. BPEL is cheat codes, Sorry to say it. The one thing about BPEL is that it always gets a consistent measurement so in my case I take that measurement and subtract .5 in. Its different for everyone depending on your chubby ness.

Well brother, I’m almost down to six-pack level, and I made gains (NBEL 6.3” from <6”).

I always have been “skinny”.

What would I gain by lying to you?

Also, how do you know who on this forum is fat and who is skinny? So how can you say you only see overweight people making gains? :D

BPEL is the right way to measure length because, unless if you’re perhaps obscenely obese, your fat pad compresses during sex in missionary position, so yes BPEL is actually usable length.

I will agree though that for doggy style NBEL is more honest.


BP x MEG: 7.0" × 5.0"---> 7.6" x 5.3" (2022-2023)

Next Goal: 8.0" x 5.5" (Next deadline: July 2024).

Extender: 1.1k hours (4/4/2024). Goal: 3k hours.

I’ve always been trim, even at my heaviest I was still thinner than 75% of all guys out there, and that was in 2003. I’m lean in my lower abs, no fat there at all, just minimal amount of “fat pad” if you can call it that. I made serious gains.

This is more than just fat guys losing fat pad and claiming penis growth, if that’s what the OP is implying…


Starting length, Spring 2003: bpel 6 3/8", bpfsl ~6 1/2", flaccid ~3-4" (never measured flaccid stretched or hanging flaccid; starting girth was probably ~5"-5 1/4")

Summer 2004: bpel 7 7/8", bpfsl 8 1/8", flaccid ~4", erect girth 5.3"

Spring 2018: bpel 7 1/4", bpfsl 7 5/8", erect girth 5 1/8"; Spring 2020: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth 5 3/8". Current - August 2023: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth mid shaft 5 1/4" (5 1/2" at base)

BPEL is the only accurate way to have a consistent point at which to measure gains.It was never meant to give an accurate description of penis size but rather a way to consistently measure if you have gained.

Originally Posted by Ross347
I haven’t seen anyone who are slim or skinny make any gains.

There are lots of skinny guy making gains, you must search properly in order to make that claim. :)

I’ve gained 0.7 in (both BP and NBP) in two months of stretching. I’ve been 14-17% bodyfat the whole time. If you’re sub 10% bodyfat you might run into erectile dysfunction that would interfere with gains, but other than that fat levels shouldn’t make much of a difference.

Neither BP nor NBP covers all the aspects we want to measure. I find it’s best to use both. The length that actually matters is somewhere between the two.

Originally Posted by Jimmybob55
BPEL is the only accurate way to have a consistent point at which to measure gains.It was never meant to give an accurate description of penis size but rather a way to consistently measure if you have gained.

Exactly, it’s the only way to he sure of mm changes, there is no other accurate measurement. Not sure how people are getting confused on that. It’s not for show and tell it’s simple used for accuracy

You can check my log, just recorded 1/2 inch BPEL gain using the vac hanging with FIRe method in one cycle. I’m around 18% BF.

I see the rest of the townsfolk have stopped by and brought you up to speed already. Thus, there is no need to repeat their words, but I might add that there seems to be a synergy between all types of size measurements. This means that when you gain, you don’t just gain in BPEL, you gain in NBPEL as well and even in flaccid size. BPEL is simply a preferred type of measurement, that helps you to accurately keep track on where you are on your PE journey. That being said, you can safely leave the rest to solve itself.


Starting stats (as of September 2018): 13.5cm / 5.3" BPEL ||| 11.5cm / 4.5" MSEG

Current stats (as of November 2022): 17cm / 6.7" BPEL ||| 13.5cm / 5.3" MSEG

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If you were 6ft and stood in 3ft of jelly, are you 3 feet tall? It’s insertable length that is being measured, ie bone pressed. If you want bragging length, then that’s none bone pressed.

Ill start a different view since most are redundant already.

How about the relationship of calorie intake to gains? We all know how bodybuilding works. To gain muscles, one must be on a caloric surplus. Does it apply in PE? When you are overweight, your body tend to ask you to get more energy to sustain. Hence, more nutrients to fill in during the stress-recovery process. Will that be the reasoning observations of OP?

Originally Posted by Ross347
…I am sorry guys I just do not see BPEL is a viable or truthful way to Measure gains. Especially when you may have 1.5 to 2 inches of fatpad.

The fat pad is one of the reasons that BPEL is especially viable and truthful.

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