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Reaching Maximal Penis Potential in Adolescent growth spurts

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Reaching Maximal Penis Potential in Adolescent growth spurts

You grow in your sleep, or at least growth is facilitated in your sleep by the release of hormones, thyroxine, -1, GH, Testosterone, DHT, etc.

Sleeping an hour less is proven to reduce testosterone by 15%

Long story short, would sleeping slightly below average every school night from ages 11-15 (ranging from 7-6 hours respectively) have any stunting affect on the penis however minimal?


BPEL: 7.87" EG: 5.5" Mid Shaft, 5.8" Base, Crown (measuring around the ring): 6.00" (need to double check)

Sleep deprived throughout puberty, like a lot of other teens (maybe a little more on the worse side) - would that have effects on my penis growth? Hmmm I don't know but PE religiously and I'll be bigger than I ever could have been with the perfect lifestyle. At least I trained well, was skinny, ate well, didn't get any sever illness, didn't do drugs too much :)

I don’t think so, personally I slept around 5-6hrs during that period (remember my parents saying I was a difficult sleeper) and I was 7.something” BPEL.

Furthermore, I believe that it’s known that growth spurts in terms of penis size continue until you are 20 (Don’t quote me on this, I believe I recalled reading it somewhere)

That’s a hard question to answer. Because even if you test the theory with people, the outcome would be inconclusive because you’d have to test both results with the same person to get conclusive results. For example, if you test with a teen through there teen ages and let them have minimal sleep, you wouldn’t be able to tell what the effect is because you wouldn’t know what there optimum size would be with the other conclusion, and since everyone grows different and to different sizes… I dunno how you could come to a sound conclusion.


Start: Nov 13 - FL: 3.5", FG: 4", BPEL: 6.813, EL: 6.25", MSEG: 4.75"

Current - FL: 3.8125", FG: 4.3125", BPEL: 7.0625", EL: 6.5625", MSEG: 5.0625"

Short term: EL: 7"x5.5" Dream: EL:8"x6"

I know many teens have trouble sleeping, I was one of them. I wouldn’t say I was lacking being 6.5 x 5 before any pe. But if the theory is right, maybe I would have been like 7.5 x 6.

Like I said it’s impossible to tell. You could get optimal sleep through your teens years and grow to 9 x 7 but how do you know they wouldn’t have had the same result with less sleep?

Originally Posted by Shooting8
You’d have to test both results with the same person to get conclusive results.

Twin studies.. Identical twins is as good as you can get.


BPEL: 7.87" EG: 5.5" Mid Shaft, 5.8" Base, Crown (measuring around the ring): 6.00" (need to double check)

Sleep deprived throughout puberty, like a lot of other teens (maybe a little more on the worse side) - would that have effects on my penis growth? Hmmm I don't know but PE religiously and I'll be bigger than I ever could have been with the perfect lifestyle. At least I trained well, was skinny, ate well, didn't get any sever illness, didn't do drugs too much :)

Originally Posted by EdgeWalker
I don’t think so, personally I slept around 5-6hrs during that period (remember my parents saying I was a difficult sleeper) and I was 7.something” BPEL.
Furthermore, I believe that it’s known that growth spurts in terms of penis size continue until you are 20 (Don’t quote me on this, I believe I recalled reading it somewhere)

Your GH, Test and DHT levels are still very high when penis growth stops. Your androgen receptors are still active. They only deactivate in the next couple of years because growth has stopped. Androgen receptors do not regulate penis growth, it’s another mechanism, maybe just that your penis has reached it terminal size and can no longer grow.

I don’t think there’s any reason to be alarmed, but I’m simply posing this question, its been on my mind for a while.

Maybe someone could tag a veteran and see what he thinks about this.


BPEL: 7.87" EG: 5.5" Mid Shaft, 5.8" Base, Crown (measuring around the ring): 6.00" (need to double check)

Sleep deprived throughout puberty, like a lot of other teens (maybe a little more on the worse side) - would that have effects on my penis growth? Hmmm I don't know but PE religiously and I'll be bigger than I ever could have been with the perfect lifestyle. At least I trained well, was skinny, ate well, didn't get any sever illness, didn't do drugs too much :)

Originally Posted by Shooting8
I know many teens have trouble sleeping, I was one of them. I wouldn’t say I was lacking being 6.5 x 5 before any PE. But if the theory is right, maybe I would have been like 7.5 x 6.

Like I said it’s impossible to tell. You could get optimal sleep through your teens years and grow to 9 x 7 but how do you know they wouldn’t have had the same result with less sleep?

Dude no need to be alarmed, it’s definitely not a huge difference like that. It’s probably so small that a girl could not conciously feel the difference, but still a measurable difference if you controlled for erection level etc. Something in the range of millimeters.

Your penis is like a sponge and absorbs all these hormones and it is not concious of how much hormone it is receiving it simply responds and grows night after night until it eventually stops growing because it cannot absorb anymore hormones (receptors embedded in your penile tissue?).

You would get more growth on any given night if you slept more due to more hormone spurts and more time for growth and the action of those hormones, which are delivered via your blood to the penis through your erections.

From ages 11-15 I went from 7 hours to 6 hours linearly. Most kids would have had 8-7 hours, a full hour more. Not that each growth spurt would release more of a hormone, but just that you would have at least one more hormone spurt per night giving you a higher gross level for that night. Since each hormone release would have the same amount of hormones your boners would be just as hard as the next one. I imagine that most of the action of the hormones would be done 5 hours into your sleep, and that any hormones delivered to your penis after that 5th hour are going to have negligible effects on growth in that particular night.

Would it just take someone a little more time to reach full maturity/potential in their penis and height etc. But they would still realize their maximum potential? I would imagine so because the body responds to growth and isn’t conciously aware of the exact level of the hormones it is responding to.

Please someone alert a mod or veteran about this question, I think we could all use an answer.


BPEL: 7.87" EG: 5.5" Mid Shaft, 5.8" Base, Crown (measuring around the ring): 6.00" (need to double check)

Sleep deprived throughout puberty, like a lot of other teens (maybe a little more on the worse side) - would that have effects on my penis growth? Hmmm I don't know but PE religiously and I'll be bigger than I ever could have been with the perfect lifestyle. At least I trained well, was skinny, ate well, didn't get any sever illness, didn't do drugs too much :)


Last edited by bigbutblue : 01-03-2016 at . Reason: Made an error in my prose

What’s your age now? I know I grew until I was in my early 20’s.


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Not alarmed :) . I simply used arbitrary numbers as a reference and for ease. I didn’t realise you were talking about such ‘insignificant’ differences though. Regardless, if it’s only mm you’re missing out on from that missing sleep in ones teen years, a month or two of pe will get them probably more gains.

I understand your curiosity and wanting an answer, I I hope someone will be able to satisfy your desire for an answer. I can’t really add much more input at this time however.
But since you’re only talking about such a small difference, I don’t think it’s completely unreasonable to say, yes a small difference in size could have been achieved if you slept and extra hour or two when you were in your teen growing years. It’s such a small number though, and besides we can’t go back in time to tell ourselves to sleep more. Which honestly, if I even knew back then, wouldn’t make me suddenly able to sleep more or at appropriate times.

There are connection between sleeping and personal size, but don’t go mad with it. Every person sleeps as well as he needs, you’ll normalize your sleep hours at the next weekends.

Originally Posted by Melo11
There are connection between sleeping and personal size, but don’t go mad with it. Every person sleeps as well as he needs, you’ll normalize your sleep hours at the next weekends.

What exactly are the connections you know of. And what do you mean by personal size? You mean height etc or dick in particular?

True I’ve heard before, the body always wins. How much do you think it is 1% of penile volume or more?


BPEL: 7.87" EG: 5.5" Mid Shaft, 5.8" Base, Crown (measuring around the ring): 6.00" (need to double check)

Sleep deprived throughout puberty, like a lot of other teens (maybe a little more on the worse side) - would that have effects on my penis growth? Hmmm I don't know but PE religiously and I'll be bigger than I ever could have been with the perfect lifestyle. At least I trained well, was skinny, ate well, didn't get any sever illness, didn't do drugs too much :)

Originally Posted by bigbutblue
What exactly are the connections you know of. And what do you mean by personal size? You mean height etc or dick in particular?

True I’ve heard before, the body always wins. How much do you think it is 1% of penile volume or more?

The guy you are asking was a Bathmate spammer and won’t be able to answer your questions. Most of what he said really didn’t make sense in the other parts of the forum, so I wouldn’t be to concerned about his comments here.


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I think that every 18 years old guy who have 8” dick and arguing about 1% volume of dick, is spammer.

But sleeping theory seems reasonably for me. I don’t sleep well, living under high stress, so I need good sleep for hormonal balance and growth (gains), I suppose.

And I am almost 60 years old, so to many questions.. :-)

Originally Posted by bigbutblue
Twin studies.. Identical twins is as good as you can get.

Depriving a growing adolescent of sleep to check it’s effects is immoral and illegal. You’ll find no such medical research, unless the Chinese are doing it secretly.

I find this theory of yours to be a bit…. icky. There is no hard evidence, no direct relation between A and B, just a lot of confabulation and (you said so yourself) a healthy bit of paranoia. Growth hormone is released in the resting period after working out, and that stimultes growth in adolescents too. So unless you worked out like a maniac while growing up, you haven't reached your maximum potential. However, not studying enough made you less smart than you could be. And sleeping less than you should have, would have an effect too. Busy life, right?

Wait, there’s more! You need social contact as well, or you’ll end up being a recluse, with a much larger chance of depression and dementia. Stressed out from all this? Too bad, stress counteracts growth and the immune system.

So all in all, no matter what you do, you’ll never reach your full potential according to your own theory. There’s only 24 hours in a day. And now I’ll stop my ranting :)

There’s a far more pressing concern: getting too little sleep while growing can cause chronic fatigue that can last from months to years. And that actually happens a lot, and is severely underrated.

All in all I can answer your general question with a sounding “No, getting a little less sleep definitely doesn’t harm your potential at all. In fact, your size is pretty impressive!”

If you have any other specific questions, ask them :) I’ll do some more research and maybe post something here later on.


* 7 July 2015 (start): BPEL 17 cm (6.7") / EG 13 cm (5.1")

* 6 december 2015 (latest): BPEL: 18.7 cm (7.4") / EG 13.6 cm (5.4")

note: I study medicine, will be honest and skeptical, but I never mean to offend :) My picture thread: TCG's pictures, gains and rants.

PAranoia

I have been hallucinating at my own thoughts. I still am convinced that I’ve dealt some kind of loss of potential but I’m semi aware that it’s my own ocd. I red somewhere between twins a maximum of an inch in height difference can arise due to environmental factors. An inch for the average man is one point five percent. So for my cock and I’m using its whole length from anus to glans that’s 400x1.6% = 6mm. That’s a sizeable quantity which would take months of PE. Now just how much of that one point five percent is due to sleep!? Let’s assume that sleep accounts for half those losses, amongst diet/supplementation, body-fat level/ physicalactivity, illness/smoking(less blood flow, test, and erection level)drug use and finally sun exposure (less sun is less test) and climate (cold balls equals more test) which makes up The other half of environmental factors. Then sleep accounts for 3mm of loss. Sleep could further be broken down into ages 0-10 and 10-20. Half your growth is from 0-10 and the other form 10-20. My sleep was below average particularly from 10-14 where penis growth is minimal anyway, so worst case let’s say 0-10 is not an issue but 10-20 I suffered some loss of potential which by my calculations would be 1.5mm, enough to consider it null, especially since from 15-20 sleep was average at best and I was very physically active. This is all based off the twin study which said there was a maximum of an inch loss due to environment. I haven’t found this study but I hear something like this quoted on reddit not long ago. Cannot find the link unfortunately.

Is it a fact that physical activity and the extra GH due to it can help athletes mature faster or reach more potential?

All this being said I have read a study which used eat penises to show that higher test can not exceed predetermined adult penis size but can only accelerate growth. So maybe my sick is what it was always meant to be but I could have reached terminal size sooner. It just responds to hormones without any way of knowing how much it had received. It doesn’t have any time limitation on growth or other factors which can stop it growing.


BPEL: 7.87" EG: 5.5" Mid Shaft, 5.8" Base, Crown (measuring around the ring): 6.00" (need to double check)

Sleep deprived throughout puberty, like a lot of other teens (maybe a little more on the worse side) - would that have effects on my penis growth? Hmmm I don't know but PE religiously and I'll be bigger than I ever could have been with the perfect lifestyle. At least I trained well, was skinny, ate well, didn't get any sever illness, didn't do drugs too much :)

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