New guy with a small problem.

I kind of go into things other than strictly PE in this post, I hope that’s okay. I’ve been self conscious about my penis size for a long time. I’m probably in the bottom 10% for U.S. Penis length. As a result I’m a hermit and a virgin in my mid 30s. Yep. I’ve only had one woman touch my erect penis and I told her beforehand that I was small, she said it was “not that small”. In other words, it’s small. I almost think it was longer then, is that possible? I think people underestimate how much of an impact having a legitimately less than average penis can have on a person’s life and mental well being. You average+ guys might have concerns but this is different. I had pretty much given up on having a meaningful life and I have been suicidal. Now I have decided that I can have a meaningful life, even if it requires me lowering my standards. I’m not super picky at this point. I know I can find SOME SORT of woman that will accept me and I’m willing to settle if that’s required. It just doesn’t make sense to give up on life without at least trying once. Given my situation with size and inexperience, I’m not looking forward to it. It’s going to be rough, but I have to do this for myself. If I really do fail, god help me.

As recommended, I plan on doing the newbie routine for a while. Unfortunately I’m finding that I probably can’t do dry jelqing because I don’t have a lot of skin left once I get a semi. So, it’s not going to be something that I can just do easily before I go asleep. I do have questions about these exercises if someone wants to answer. How hard is one supposed to squeeze when jelqing? Also, when I’m doing a manual stretch am I meant to be puling mainly the head and skin? I don’t feel like it’s the internals are very easy to grasp. Maybe I was a little too hard. It did feel like things were stretching internally though, inside my body.

I’m also interested in PE surgery, primarily ligament cutting. Some people claim that this is ineffective but the newbie guide specifically mentions targeting this ligament with the stretches. I feel like I have a particularly tight ligament with my penis angling up when I have an erection and being virtually impossible to point downward at all, even with considerable force. The most it will angle down is perpendicular to my body. It’s my hope that this means I have much to gain from cutting this ligament, I’m not sure stretching alone would allow for maximum gains. Honestly, the angle of my erection has also been a concern for me, I’m not sure how well it would work in practice. When I have an erection and I do push it down I also see the skin above it get tugged down, is that normal? I’m interested in gaining girth as well but I think I’m close to average in this department so it’s not the priority. Where can I read up on SURGICAL options and experiences? I know there are scattered threads about it here but it seems that it’s not a focus and there is no dedicated section for it. Maybe for some people surgery makes sense. I’m not sold on it, I just want to research.

Also, is there a guide on accurate measurements and the methods you use? I want to share results but for them to be valid they must follow some standard.

Sorry for the long post.

Welcome to the club,

I don’t have much time, but I just wanted to respond quickly to the most urgent things.

First, don’t hold, touch, or use your glans to stop your hand slipping down your shaft when stretching. Only bad, bad things will happen.

Secondly, ligament surgery is a waste of time, IMHO. With PE, you will easily get the same gains as with the surgery. Part of the recovery from the surgery, is PEing… so why not just leave out the cutting part :eek:

And yes you penis is suppose to stick in an upward direction… this is good news!

Read as much as possible here…. and everything will slowly come into place!

Good luck :)

How to Measure Your Penis

Welcome to TP, and best of luck on your PE journey!

While it makes sense to be careful with the glans since the skin there is very fragile, I don’t really see how you can stretch without even touching it..?
I do something like the grip in the SD stretch in the manual stretches video and I have no idea how I could apply the same amount of force without gripping over the glans.

Sacktothefuture,

You found here a good place to be, to talk and learn about PE, insecurities, life and what not.
Take the time to read as much as you can here, and in doubt ask for anything.

Thunder’s has giving me so much more than some centimeters, we all have are downs, I had quite a few myself.
Focus on being consistent with the beginners routine, in a few months, a year you’ll see why.

Your penis is just one part of who you are, don’t let one thing that is not what you would like it to be take you down, you won’t find “some sort” of women, you will find a women period. Focus more on what you like about yourself, try to work on what you can improve and PE will slowly take care of your biggest insecurity.

Good luck to you.

Firstly, I wasn’t giving advice to an experience member here at Thunders. It was for a Newbie.

Whatever force you use on your penis is up to you, but I think a newbie should be recommended light stretching.

Also, I think it would be quite obvious that “touching” your glans won’t cause an injury.

However, if you are gripping just under the glans, the temptation to use the underside of the glans as a way of getting more leverage, is increased.

Therefore, if the force is transfered to the underside of the glans, even by accident, the chance of injury (serious nerve damage for example) is somewhat increased.

To simplify my advice for a Newbie who was thinking about using his glans to grip for stretching, I thought it would be easier to tell him not to touch them, until he read / received more information. :)

OP I advise you to change the perspective you are looking from. A decent girl will go for the adventurous, happy, guy that enjoys life, over the boring dude with a big dick everytime. Don’t hold yourself back. It’s all perspective and psychology.

Join a gym, get jacked. Join a club and build some social skills. Work on the full spectrum of self improvement. Penis included.

Find that positive mindset and discover life.

Don’t let it pass you by for another second. If you need a starting point I could help you out, but the journey is yours to take.

Here’s an inspiring thread about a member that didn’t start off with a large size: 2-inch Growth Comparative Pictures

I always thought that if women can get satisfaction with another woman why not with me? You just need to learn the right moves and act confident.

Thank you guys for the positive response, I thought I had perhaps said too much. I’m just being honest here about things that people rarely actually talk about and it just feels good to get it out there among supportive people. I know that things can only get better from here and I’m taking steps to ensure that it does on several fronts. I’m not stuck on JUST my penis size, even though it is probably the main demoralizing factor and the one I can do the least about. I’m just hard on myself in general and that is the #1 thing that I have to change, a positive attitude is something I’ve been missing and that has been holding me back. I don’t want to give the impression that I’m sad all of the time or anything, I’m generally a confident guy and get along with people well but I just have ignored a very important aspect of my life because it’s the one aspect of life I have zero confidence about.

Surgery is a big step, I will go down the PE path and reevaluate later. Honestly, I thought that ligament surgery would be a shortcut and would make maintenance exercises less of a requirement. I also didn’t ever want to wonder if I was leaving some length on the table by not doing it, I need all of the help I can get. Thanks again for the positive response and the sage advice. I will respond with progress reports in the future.

Hey Sacktothefuture!

I may have missed it, but I didn’t see where you posted your length. A lot of guys think they are small due to unrealistic comparisons. However, without knowing your dick’s size it is difficult to give you the best advice.

Hey sacktothefuture

I highly recommend against any type of penile surgery. With this being said, it’s your dick, so ultimately you’re going to do what you want. If I could give you a little advice to think about into the meantime, before you take such a drastic step. Use the search button and search some of the guys who have had surgery. Even if it may work, when it fucks up, it goes real bad. There are threads on here with pictures.

Now for the real advise. If you really want surgery just take some serious time and think about it. Weigh the pros and cons of what could be. Don’t make any decisions now. Now. While you are thinking on it, stick to that newbie routine. Stay consistent and dedicated. If this is something you really want to change about yourself I’m sure dedication won’t be an issue. My guess is while you are thinking about surgery, while you are consistently doing the newbie routine, you’re dick will grow. It may not seem like much at first, but it will grow. 6 months/ a year will pass. Maybe you will have gained an inch. By that time you will realize that surgery is not necessary as you allready have begun your journey to a bigger dick!!

I really hope you find what you are looking for here at thunders. It’s such a great, inspiring place. I really hope you realize through that surgery is not the only way. Remember. Shortcuts aren’t always the best route! And above all remember. You’re worth is so much more than your dick size.

Good luck. I hope it all works for you!!

Hey welcome. I have a pretty small dick too. It would be ashamed if you’re freaking out over like a 5 inch dick with good girth. Because you can satisfy most women with that if you know how to use it. If you want to share your length I can provide some perspective. Mine is a little over 4 inches and skinny. It bothers me a lot too. But I’m working on it and living my life at the same time. I have faith in us. Keep your head up. We’ll get there.

I really need more info on the glans squeezing or whatever. I don’t want to hurt myself. I’m about to go do my 3rd session ever and I’m going to make sure I take it easy.

A wise man once said to me ” you only need three inches of dick to satisfy a woman, the inch that’s in, the inch that’s out, and the inch that’s in and out.”