Ideal warm up temperature - a myth?

Sure. What I used is a clinical thermometer which is very thin. It does not cause any pain.

Graal:

I believe, remembering the study I read, that 40C is sufficient to enable a positive alteration to the mechanical properties of collagen.

I’m shocked by the results of your experiment. Perhaps the “cold” side of your unit was acting as a heat-sink (I assume you only used one IR light) and this goes to explain the lesser heating capacity of the IR light.

Graal:

Thanks for saving me the effort to prove or disprove the IR method. Wasn’t looking forward to it and I also have thought that my penis feels hottest after the wash cloth method.

Also, your “the body defends itself” statement about increased blood circulation is sound. Possibly you could torniquet the base leaving the blood stagnant in the penis while heating and increase temperature thereby.

But how far are we willing to go before PE becomes inconvenient torture?

Likewise. I was certain that IR light would be able to raise the temperature much better than streaming water. I even ordered an IR lamp just a few days ago :(

@Graal:
Did you try to do it erect? I’ve been wanting to try edging under IR light to see if it could increase flaccid size, but if the temperature doesn’t go above 38 degrees I guess that’s pretty unlikely to work.
How close did you have the lamp?

If I believe in the information I read, it is true that collagen gradually softens ; it does not suddenly become flexible at 42 ° C.

I use only IR, indeed. I don’t understand what you are speaking of with “cold side” (but my English is very basic ;) ).

I have just measured and communicated the result. I’ve been surprised by the result too.

I practice the heating, but it seems that the interest of this practice is disputed by some. Here’s a link to a site (in French, but you can get help through the automatic translation from Google:) ).

The person who wrote this text is a doctor specialist in bio mechanic. It’s even an expert in this field. He claims that limber up without warm up are more effective and he gives gives a credible explanation.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying I agree with him. But this theory is very interesting and worth pondering.

No, I just tried in flaccid state. It might be interesting to try in erect state, but I think it would not change much.
Currently I’m in a decon break and the only thing I do is edging with IR. I do not even know if it has an interest…

If blood flow is accelerated in locations where the body senses increased heat, how about clamping or using a cock ring, heating and then testing the increase in temp?

Oz:

That is exactly what I am suggesting in post #18.

Anyone tried this with a rice sock?

To all saying temporary local heating of tissues is not possible: I disagree on that. I did some reading about medical treatments performed in the presence of heat at specific extremities, and it seems that there are methods of changing the temperature of specific tissues (not the the core temp of the body - that’d be bad news).

One thing people are trying these days: drugs that are inactive when administered systemically, but only become active upon heating. So you can heat the place you want to get treated (such as a tumor), activate the drug there and kill the tissue, but leave the rest of the body intact. They do it on mice with the heat source being hot water or IR lamp.

I now prefer IR lamp as my heating method because I can keep it applied the entire workout (although I think it’s starting to fuck up my eyes). Not to mention, a big fat shiny PE’ed dick looks nice on me under an infrared light. I know it burns my skin - hard to say what temperature it’s bring my tunica to.

I dont think anybody here, so far, is saying that heat is not beneficial or possible. The thread is merely positing that it will not be easy or maybe not even possible to heat your dick to the required temperature for the plasticity of the optimum stretch. (112 deg., F.)

I totally agree with you Howardson.

You’re also right sg106.

The question is : can we reach the threshold for plastic deformation with our methods ?

(Very interesting this thread, no ? :) ).

OK I see. But using the shower head and hot poring water can warm up the ligs?

I never cared much about heating methods but this is getting interesting yes.

I think we are looking like idiots every time we do any form of PE so I don’t really car much about it. No one is watching me when I do my PE. Anyone watching you when you do it?

And to your sidenote I say thank you, did you look at my picture threads?