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How to measure insertable length - "HPEL"?

Can we insert our entire BPELs, or just our NBPELs? How much does the fat pad compress during sex?

To answer this, I widened the central hole in an old CD, stuck my dick through it, pressed it against my fatpad, then tried to measure my BPFSL. Since the CD was between the ruler and the fatpad, it spread the pressure of the ruler-end over a flat, wide area instead of letting it sink in. Here’s an illustration (warning: external link to an MSpaint drawing of a dick, and probably an ad for Evony.

This gave me what I’m calling my “hole pressed flaccid stretched length” (HPFSL) - which was only 0.2 inches less than my “bone pressed flaccid stretched length” (BPFSL).

So, assuming erections don’t change the fatpad (why would they?), it seems a girl with an equivalent fatpad would get my full BPEL minus no more than 0.4 inches - *not* my NBPEL, which is almost an inch less.

Anyone else? Uh, trim away all the sharp edges if you use a CD.

(More detail in this convolutedly written previous post, and more discussion in the thread:

/forum/en/showthread.php?p=1475385#post1475385)

We take both of those measurements from the top side of our cocks for consistency of our measurements. But for the purpose of fucking, you are inserting your full cock length including the underside, where we don’t measure, up to balls deep. That means that depending on the position you are in, you are inserting even more than your BPEL.


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Originally Posted by gprent
depending on the position you are in, you are inserting even more than your BPEL.

Specifically, if I get what you’re saying, “when fucking with a low dick angle, you are inserting more than your BPEL.”

I guess - but the HPEL idea was more about the degree to which fatpads cost us (the “fatpad tax”) when fucking with the dick straight out: I always thought my pad felt very soft and compressible (even though it was almost a full inch wide), and this experiment seems to confirm that.

I did something remotely similar and found that my insertable or functional length was about 1/2” more than my NBPEL and 1/2” less than my BPEL.

Very cool foryourprivacy. We have to keep the terminology list growing.


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Originally Posted by redbear52
I did something remotely similar and found that my insertable or functional length was about 1/2” more than my NBPEL and 1/2” less than my BPEL.

That’s more of a loss than I would have expected - you wanna try the CD version?

I’d start a poll, but judging by the one in my sig, they’re poorly attended.

Anyone up for describing their fatpad? Here’s my attempt: /forum/en/showthread.php?p=1466042#post1466042

And thanks, hopeful2.

How about work out the average between your BPEL and NBPEL and whatever number that leaves is probably a safe bet.

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Originally Posted by MisterWhiskers
How about work out the average between your BPEL and NBPEL and whatever number that leaves is probably a safe bet.

I would have thought you were right before trying it - but my NBPEL is about an inch less than my BPEL, while my HPEL is only 0.2” less than my BPEL.

Usable length is kind of an abstract question, but the point of this experiment/measurement is that we don’t have to guess: we can get a solid, definite answer.


Last edited by Foryourprivacy : 01-23-2010 at .

The problem with this is you are not giving any allowance for the compression of the females body. For example if I were to put my dick in a girl until my fat pad touched her pussy lips( or the cd in your example) , I’m sure I could push another inch in at least. Possibly half from my fat pad and half from compression of her pussy lips etc. I dont think there is any accurate way you could measure functional length without the use of a functional pussy. Even then it will vary greatly between woman. There are just to many variables in both parties.

Your method , although I commend you for your efforts, is only going to give you the length of penis usable when having sex with compact discs!

I always consider NBPEL for insertable lenght, and BPFSL for PE gains

Ahahah I’m glad you followed up on this, it’s been bugging me. I guess this is the result of ‘when science happens’ :p

You also need to take into account the thickness of the CD. I just measured one at it was 1/16”.

Originally Posted by Foryourprivacy
Usable length is kind of an abstract question, but the point of this experiment/measurement is that we don’t have to guess: we can get a solid, definite answer.

Now there’s something you don’t see every day, “an abstract question” with a “solid, definite answer”.


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We can use more then our NBPEL, I mean if we can push a ruler to get more dick why should the female to do the same her pubic bone?

Think when she’s on the top, do you really think that the fatpad is that solid that a women with hear weight can’t get out more dick?

Originally Posted by kruz
I dont think there is any accurate way you could measure functional length without the use of a functional pussy. Even then it will vary greatly between woman.

From my original post: “a girl with an equivalent fatpad (i.e., a fatpad the same as mine) would get my full BPEL minus no more than 0.4 inches.”

Agreed that it would vary from woman to woman. We could run an analogous experiment for them - say, touching the “balls” portion of a dildo to her outer pussy lips, marking the distance off on a ruler pressed to her pubic bone, then pushing the dildo in (up against her fatpad) as far as it could comfortably go, and marking that off.

But whatever the partner *can take*, it doesn’t change what the HPEL-measuring man *can give*. If I have a 10 inch dick and she can’t take it in her pussy at all, does that mean I have a 0 inch dick? If she can only take 8 inches - have 2 inches dropped off my dick?

Originally Posted by bugasman
I always consider NBPEL for insertable lenght, and BPFSL for PE gains

Well, your system probably isn’t strictly correct, but there’s no reason to be as precise as I’m suggesting unless it interests you.

Originally Posted by tweaking
You also need to take into account the thickness of the CD. I just measured one at it was 1/16”.

I think I subtracted that from my result, actually. Maybe. I should check again.

Originally Posted by ebon00
Now there’s something you don’t see every day, “an abstract question” with a “solid, definite answer”.

Point taken - “abstract” and “solid” sound funny together (though I think it still works).

How about “it has little practical application, but this method gives us a definite result, eliminating the need for guesswork?”

Originally Posted by Ritte88
We can use more then our NBPEL, I mean if we can push a ruler to get more dick why should the female to do the same her pubic bone?
Think when she’s on the top, do you really think that the fatpad is that solid that a women with hear weight can’t get out more dick?

Well - I agree. That’s what I set out to prove.

But I think the argument against what you’re saying (in the primitive days before HPEL) was that rulers can plunge in deeper, pushing the fatpad out to either side like a squishy moon crater.


Last edited by Foryourprivacy : 01-24-2010 at .

I’m having a hard time figuring out why a precision measure of insertable length matters.

We use BPEL and NBPEL and FSL to have standards to measure to, so that we can measure consistently and gauge our progress.

But insertable length? That’s going to vary depending on your anatomy and body fat percentage at the given moment, plus your partner’s particular anatomical configuration. That can vary in the given partner over time, or from partner to partner.

My guess is that ‘insertable length’ is thus a variable, not a constant.


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