Circumcision?

I have short frenulum, tight foreskin yet can still retract.

When I retract, even in flaccid state, the penis is squeezed under the foreskin.

If I try to stretch the grip slides over the glans, if I squeeze the grip harder in order for it not to reach the glans I feel pain and I reach over the glans anyway.

If I circumsize isn’t going to be easier? Is there still going to be skin that will slide over the top?

How long must I recover before doing PE?

That tumbleweed.

Hello Pegym.

Just apply a stretching routine for your foreskin, it will adapt.

Cut it off and you will have other problems

What problems? I also said I have a short frenulum and I am really thrilled by the wish to stretch my penis without the foreskin overlapping the glans. Is this possible?

4dasnake

(I like that name, cool choice!)

What I am telling you is on a strictly personal preference.

- In my eyes, a circumsized cock looks great from an esthetically point. I told you, that’s strictly a personal opinion.

- From a PE-perspective, as far as I know there is no evidence of an impact on growth if the penis is being circumcised or not.

Now the more factual part:

- If you have a phimosis problem, circumcision is an easy and quick surgical solution. Recovery is usually a couple of weeks, not more. Therefore, the impact on PE should be just a delay of this time span.

- A circumcised penis is easier to maintain clean. This is important for the women, as there is an medical evidence-based correlation between circumcision and smaller risk for cancer of the cervix.

- In case you would opt for a circumcision, be aware that the uncovered glans will have initially a higher sensitivity. This may have eventually have an impact on sexual stamina at the beginning. But again, your body will adapt pretty quickly.

- Circumcision does not have to be radical. Today, it is usual to do a kind of partial circumcision to remove the part of the foreskin being too narrow but keep a “uncut style-look” in order to have the modification minimal and keep yourself “familiar” with your best friend.

Now all that said, the final recommendation can only be made by a physician. I definitely recommend to have a professional advice about what is the best solution for your individual situation.

The purpose of circumcision has always been to probhibit sexual activity.
A sacrifice to god. The foreskin is the most sensitive part of the penis, that is what you remove. The rest - your glans and if you left your frenulum intact, will harden since it has to adapt to exposure and in time desensitize aswell.

And in case of America and circumcision its a leftover from the Victorian era, where sexual activity was believed to be dangerous, and the solution is just the same - limit it.

As time pass people forget its real purpose and it just becomes “something you do because why not”, and then they come up with every reason to legitimize it as a valid thing to do.

The “clean” argument is one of the more ridiculous excuses, its like saying cutting off your lips and cheeks will limit bacteria or whatever in your mouth since it will all dry out. Or you can just brush your teeth. Choose.
Slicing off body parts to prevent X bad thing for happening to 1 in 10 000 people doesn’t even belong in the stone age.

As for aesthetics, it depends on what type of penises women are used to. Here in Sweden they would not be amazed over how much nicer it looks than and intact dick, if it matters their opinion would be the opposite and more sensibly so to be seen as scarred, because it is.

Look up circumcision on the internet and keep a neutral perspective and you will see it for what it is. There are many many “intact”ivists for this thing that dedicate their lives to warn other men from buying into the nonsense of circumcision.

Now back to your problem - Yes penile skin is very stretchable, its easier to stretch than the penis itself. So add a routine for it and in months you should have noticeable difference.
Search for penile skin stretching on the web and you should find inspiration.

Thank you both for the replies.

I read both for and against sources and can conclude that even the both sides admitted that there is no change, or if little, in pleasure.

I plan on removing the frenulum and just the part of the foreskin that is tight.
The lower cancer risk, the aesthetics, the people at pegym who said that there is a trend that cut is easier for stretches and hanging, is tilting me towards booking an appointment.

Richard55 thank you for telling me that this is possible nowadays.

4dasnake

You had two different opinions from TP members and can build your decision on it. I want to thank Sumbigd for his precise and extensive answer. I think he has brought in new and interesting aspects.

Why not having the same thing: advice from 2 different physicians. Because our advice here at TP is free and free of interest - but an Urologist always has a commercial interest because he makes more money when operating.

So why not have a second opinion from the meds too.

The very least you have the choice, that is more than most men.

Yes if you get advice from a professional, make sure that he do not profit from any answer he gives. Cutting dicks is a big business, do not expect honesty.

Furthermore, read up on testimonies from people who have had circumcision late in their life and let them tell you the difference.
There are a lot of pro circumcision people out there conducting studies regarding the pleasure aspect, but they do it with guys who have been circumcised from birth. Which of course makes no sense because how would
they know what they lost, if they’ve lost something?

People like you, who made the choice themselves are the only people you should be listening too.

From my experience, circumcised since birth - the frenulum is the only part of my penis making sexual activity worthwhile. My point is, don’t be hasty about this decision. Read up on all you can find, google, youtube videos, and so forth.

Yes. I am hasty by nature and now that I thought twice I might be better off with foreskin stretches and removed frenulum.. I really don’t know how to find honest unbiased opinions on pleasure.

I remember keeping my foreskin retracted and it did caused some harshness but I enjoyed it because my glans were painfully sensitive.

Will definitely make a long decision on this one. Thank you !

4dasnake

Just to let you know: I am circumcised, but not since my birth. And fortunately I do not have sensitivity problems.

@Sumbigd: sorry to hear about the sensitivity missing, I can only confirm that something went wrong during the operation because this should not have happened!

Exactly, that’s very important. And that’s the reason why I suggest to have at least two different MD advices too.
What I would do in first attempt is asking my general practitioner who knows my health status best and, as he is not doing surgery, has no financial interest influencing the answer.

4dasnake, I’m glad to hear you are taking your time with this decision. Just look around and see if you make up your mind, and if you are still unsure I’d say just keep it and start stretching.

Richard65, the difference between keeping sensitivity or loosing it I believe depend alot on your brain.

From a purely scientific/objective standpoint there is no question that cutting 80% of all pleasure nerves will reduce sensitivity (potential sensitivity anyway),
but it doesn’t mean that your brain cannot adapt and make up for whats lost.
If you get what I am saying.
Your penis is the natural trigger for pleasure, but it is your brain that is the center for all stimuli.
I guess it is like people who loose limbs, arms and similar can still get “ghost feelings” like if their arm was still there - but its not.

Sumbigd

I just made a little foreskin-related research and frankly I am amazed by the results. Well, another piece of anatomy knowledge aqcuired.

I think I may change my view about circumcision a bit. Having lived in cultures where circumcision is done “automatically” (in Africa often right after birth) and and having had my own circumcision just before puberty, I simply never gave deeper thoughts about it. My brain, just as an example, has rewired my dick signals inasmuch that the rim of my glans is now the most sensitive part. So I considered it unproblematic and not a big thing. How wrong I was!

The fact is, and I hereby confirm your statement, that a lot of sexual nerve endings are in the mucuous part of the foreskin (the inside of it). So there will be an inevitable loss of sexual impulses missing when male circumcision is done, may it be partial or full. Naturally, as you indicated, to a certain degree the brain can compensate the loss of receptors signals through circumcision by “rewiring” the sexual pleasure signals. But this means it is probably better if a circumcision is done at younger age when the brain cells plasticity is much higher. To me, even if I advocate by principle the basis that body-modifying surgery should wait until the patient has reached age of consent, this seems to be a (certainly arguable) biological fact.

I know this position is absolutely contrary to the one published by the board of nordic physicians, but honestly I have a slight feeling there is a little culture fight in that board statement too. Male circumcision is done, when not medically indicated, by Jews and Muslims and a lot of cultures in Sub-Saharean Africa indeendent of religion. And female circumcision (which I’m horrified of, just to get that clear) is a thing of some West- and East-African cultures.

I think that statement by the board has the best intentions and wants to protect the childrens body integrity and ability to have a fulfilled sexual life, especially regarding female circumcision. But in practical life, the outcome, especially if this gets eventually translated into a legal text, it will be “anti-Muslim”, “anti-Jewish” and “anti-African” regarding male circumcision.

I do not want to start a big fight over this, I am just thinking a bit politically and I have the impression this may become the next Burkha/Niqab-like battlefield, only having a much larger part of immigrant groups concerned from it. Being completely agnostic myself, I had my circumcision done less for religious and more for family reasons. So to me it’s not important and never was, and to my parents neither as they were not practicing religion actively, the pressure came from a generation above (yes, it’s always the grandparents) and has more the background to honor my grandfather who died in the camps. In that sense, I say that I understand and accept it was done as honorable gestus - and yes, I am happy I do not have a negative impact on my ability to enjoy sex.

Now what has this overly long discourse to do with 4dasnake?

Quite simple, I join Sumbigd’s position to have a real thorough examination if this circumcision has to be done from a medical point of view. And it is probably highly age-dependent!

4dasnake, it may sound a bit strange but maybe Sumbigd can arrange an exchange of views (for example through mail) with a circumcision-critical physician in Sweden. To have a qualified opinion in order to really weigh the pro and cons and especially eventual alternative procedures like foreskin stretching.

I know this was a lot of text, but I always try to give my best effort in here. After all, we all have only one dick, so let’s be cautious with it. We need it for the rest if our life :-)

Best regards

Richard65