Changing the clay we try to mold
I am of course talking about collagen. Many threads have been written on the subject. I have read most and I am not much wiser. This is an attempt to get a serious discussion going. I am inviting anyone who think they can contribute. Doctors and mad scientists are especially welcome.
Here’s what I am thinking. As people here are doing the same exercises and getting different results there must be something different with our bodies. Collagen is a protein and there are around 20 different varieties in our bodies. Type 1 collagen is the most usual one and represents 90 % of our total collagen. The protein built like a chain and is very tough.
After puberty the penis does not grow anymore. PE is not about growth, but about enlargement. Hence, all discussions about growth hormones, testosterone etc are needless as that concerns growth, not enlargement.
One reason that people get different results from PE might be that we all have our own mix of collagen types. I might have 90 % type 1 and someone else 70 %. Hard gainers probably have a similar collagen setup, if this is a correct assumption.
If this is true there might be people who will be quick gainers, hard gainers and no-gainers. It’s just a matter of genetics.
On the other hand. Let’s assume that we all have identical “collagen structures”. In that case we should be able to get the same results. So why don’t we?
Maybe it has to do with how the collagen responds? Heat is always a “hot topic” in PE. Heat probably has the capacity to change the collagen’s properties. We are changing the clay so to speak. The clay gets easier to mold (elongate, widen). How can we change the clay in other ways? This has also been discussed a lot on the forum. But most is speculation. From Wikipedia:
“Collagenase clostridium histolyticum (marketed as Xiaflex by Auxilium), a drug approved by the FDA to treat Dupuytren’s contracture, has been reported to break down the excess collagen that causes Peyronie’s disease. According to Auxilium, “the first phase II trials…showed promising results.” The drug has not been approved by the manufacturer or the FDA for the treatment of Peyronie’s disease, and such treatments are currently considered off-label use, and are discouraged.”
There are ways to change the properties of the collagen. I believe (and hope) that this could be a way to increase the pay off with PE. It could also help hard gainers.
Another thing that is interesting with collagen is the strength. It is harder than steel but at the same time it is “plastic”. How do we make use the plasticity in the best way? Well, first we should not try to “break it” quickly. Time, not (high) force must be the way to do it it seems to me. That would explain why people get results from ADS, extenders and hanging. Serious hangers are hanging 20-50 hours a week. ADS users are recommended 8-12 hours per DAY. How anyone could get any results from jelqing and stretching a few minutes a day is beyond me and not consistent with this theory.
What are your opinions on this? What have I missed? What is already known that could support or dismiss these “theories”? What results have you made that makes you believe in this or not?
Mostly I am interested in intelligent comments on:
1) ways to change the properties of collagen to our advantage
2) the best use of force vs time
3) how to combine 1 and 2 (the obvious and boring example: hanging 4 hours a day with 3 kg, using an infrared lamp to loosen up the collagen)