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Originally Posted by 17ml
Best thing to do, is to do a few dry jelqs, and maybe a cold cloth for a few mins, your dick needs a break it’s just been worked very hard, the last thing it needs is more work.


Cold cloth?

An odd recommendation for a guy who then says this:

Originally Posted by 17ml
Also,. No disrespects, but healing is the last thing you want your ligs to do if you are hanging BTC or SD for example, you want to hang and control damage to your penis, over time, you want to make sure your ligs do not heal, because they only come back stronger and more resiliant. Keep the hanging going, every opportunity you get, stretch that dick out, not necessarily an ADS, but don’t be afraid to stop that dick healing, this is where your best gains might come from.


You mean “resilient” by the way. Hit the spell-check and you take care of such things. :leftie:

If you are of the camp that believes you want to steadily break down the tissue to maximize gains the cold cloth recommendation is a bit puzzling.

Generally speaking heat would be a better recommendation for that philosophy.

I’d say heat is a better choice anyway; it will promote blood-flow, which is important after compressing the tissue for load-bearing while hanging, and it will cause the ligaments to relax a bit.

Then the all-day stretcher.

Although some like pumping afterward…

Originally Posted by 17ml
Try to realise, when you hang 40lbs from your penis…


Try to realize that no one should be hanging 40 lbs from their penis.

I know some long-time vets who would be challenged by such weight. And it’s really irresponsible to suggest that this is a good idea or anyone’s standard practice.


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

With regard to this debate:

Originally Posted by 2DreamBig
We really are not doing any deformation, this is not the proper use of the word. If we were deforming like you say, why can’t we deform right down to the floor? Just continually elongate our member to the floor like silly putty. We have a finite length we can exploit but according to you we just keep adding weight and stretching to the floor (this makes no sense). I am just trying to help you with your thinking, but you are of another mindset. If you cannot rationalize some of these areas that make no sense we are at a stalemate. Healing is always important and critical to maximizing our erections, all one needs to do is have an erection under trauma and one under healthful circumstances to see the difference. We don’t tear, or turtle, or cement, or deform, this is illogical and a fallacy. Trust me.


Originally Posted by AndyB123
DreamBig, you are completely wrong. I can go on for a while explaining why but I would mostly be repeating what 17ml has already said.

You are trying to shut down some good advice and claiming that everything is a fallacy. Most of what 17ml is saying has been tried and tested by many people and now you are claiming the opposite with no proof.

We are hear to help each other not to blatantly disregard what the vets say and spread false information. Your posts made me feel sorry for the guy who started this thread. He is probably so confused right now.

Anyways I am by no means attempting to attack you but you are not helping anyone.


He is expressing his opinion (as well as his concern) AndyB123, albeit a bit over-passionately.

The plastic deformation theory is, at this stage, still a theory. While there are many here who believe in it and some who swear by this philosophy as the basis of their successful PE strategy, there are others who have got results from far gentler methods.

Both you guys would do well to state your cases and reasons without trying to beat the other down.

Each are valid schools of thought.

Lets try to have a dialog where we explore the merits of thinking that is alien to our own, rather than a “You’re wrong!” “No, you’re wrong!” sort of back and forth.

That really doesn’t get anyone anywhere.


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

Wise words Mr. Happy.

I do agree that keeping the shaft extended as much as possible and for as long as possible after hanging heavy (20 Lbs max) seems logical. It would appear that the healing process would fill in the gaps, so to speak, as the controlled damage slowly heals creating more tissue over time. I also feel letting the micro-tears heal while the penis is turtle up inside the body to be counterproductive, perhaps even causing one to heal up shorter. This is why I believe a good ADS worn after hanging is the best way to go. I know flaccid gains can be made this way, I’ve done it. I’m just not so sure about erect gains. In this area my methods haven’t been all that successful.

But I do agree that hanging heavy toughens up the tissues, both ligaments and tunica, thus making them harder to stretch. This is why length-work should be done first. But, as hanging is a type of controlled damage, using an ADS is a kind of controlled healing. Slow extended healing is what we want, but healing all the same.

Don’t tell me this guy was another Shilo incarnation.


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Happy no disrespects my friend but,

When I said about the cold cloth I meant as a skin deep sooth that’s I’ve ever used it for after hours of hanging I also don’t believe it makes you turtle straight away and is a welcoming feeling.

I also meant take a break outside of your routine hanging daily and not to do anything too strenuous after the last set, that’s why a few dry jelqs were mentioned.

I have also not said anything to rubbish the theory of letting anything heal apart from giving my point of view on believing the ligs should not be given chances to heal.

I’m passionate about not daily hanging, I have to be, I never encouraged anyone to hang 40lbs from their dick either, that was an example though an extreme one, sarcasm, but I have to believe in what I do, why? Because here’s an example, I’m writing this from my toilet, I’m up against the system of the toilet with one leg on the sink and one on the bog role holder, I’m hanging btc with heavy weights, I was just in bed nodding off after much drink and food. I made myself sneak in the dark down the corridor and to this room to hang a set, that’s because I haven’t hung today and I believe in not giving your dick healing time when it comes to ligaments
If you look back you will notice the theory I follow was rubbished in great detail not to mention the way I think.

No hard feelings though, I know you are a respected member and you also have a lot of respect for you. I just felt what you said was wrong, I am not one to say my theory is correct and Anyone is wrong, and I didn’t make the no healing theory either, must apologise for spelling I forget the grammar Nazis are online and this iPhone sucks for typing when I’m leaning against the toilet and hanging 15 lbs

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Last edited by 17ml : 10-17-2010 at .

Sorry typo meant I’m passionate about hanging daily


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LOL 17ml you created a great picture there. Sitting up on the back of the toilet legs spread apart with your dick and weight hanging down the toilet hole (I guess not touching the water).

Oh and btw Mr Happy was just trying to calm down the back and forth of you two guys which seemed pretty heated. Even though that other guy is now banned for some reason.

Anyway I’m going to be going by bibs methodology and hang everyday and see where it takes me. Obviously the penis does need time to heal but hey it will do that whilst sleeping and any moment you don’t have weight on it.

I just think you need to reach some fatigue in your ligaments and that whole area everyday. You need to feel it their everyday ideally. Some people may heal slower than others so if they take a rest day their ligaments and that area may hurt a lot. In which case they’d ideally take down the weight or time to hang everyday.

When many start PE, doing stretches, it’s quite a lot of force so 2on1 off routine may be more suitable. If you do manual for a long time then start hanging more is going to be required than someone who never did any manual PE.

If ligaments do toughen up through hanging then I would think in the long run it’s best to hang lightly and as long as possible then slowly bring up the weight. If you want quick gains and not to much, maybe 0.25 inches then I’d hang heavy and short periods to get the fatigue then take rest days (which is similar to manual PE which is usually effective). Imagine if you hung correctly and stuck with a 2on1 off for hanging using a lot of weight you might even be able to sustain gains for a while. Then a decon (providing they work) break would be required.

If I didn’t have time on my hands I would definitely hang heavy and for short periods to get those quicker/easier gains.

Why does this thread keep showing up if nobody is posting? Every day it’s on the latest threads section


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