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Symptoms DHT buildup from MMO

Symptoms DHT buildup from MMO

I am not sure, but I might have gone a bit too far with the number of orgasms I’ve had during my clamping sessions over the last couple of months.

Within the last week, I have been a bit dizzy/light headed, and kind of tired.

In this though, I still have very solid exercise routines 3-5 times per week, with plenty of energy.

I am curious to know if anyone here that edges in the clamp 2 to 3 days in a row, for extended periods of time, gets/has any of the same symptoms.

I’ve read many of Werner Ashford’s posts regarding MMO and DHT buildup, and in the time line of things it might line up.

Anyone?

Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

DHT? Please provide a link to a valid source, not a TP member’s opinion, that DHT causes such symptoms.

Originally Posted by westla90069
DHT? Please provide a link to a valid source, not a TP member’s opinion, that DHT causes such symptoms.

I am asking the question. Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. I AM having said symptoms.

I’ve been edging in the clamp, and have heard via some of your favorite member’s thread/posts, that DHT buildup from MMO can cause “issues”. You remember Werner Ashford, right? :)

And, yes, I saw a doc yesterday, and took blood tests, etc.

Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Whats MMO?

Now: NBPEL = 6.4 MSEG = 5.3 BEG = 5.75

Goals: NBPEL = 7.0 MSEG = 6.0

Originally Posted by persian
Whats MMO?

Male Multiple Orgasm

Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Not sure what DHT is, but I’ve read Mantak Chia’s multi orgasmic male and a few other tantric books. There’s a lot of talk about trapped energies especially if you are leaving it in certain areas during the orgasm. You’ve read all this I assume?

How did you become multi orgasmic? What technique?

5/16/06 - BPSFL: 7" BPEL: 6.5" EL: 6" EG: 4.75"

Goal - 7.5"x5.5"

"If your success is not on your own terms, if it looks good to the world but does not feel good in your heart, it is not success at all."

Originally Posted by ck10n3
You’ve read all this I assume?

I have not.

Originally Posted by ck10n3

How did you become multi orgasmic? What technique?

I have practiced edging/ballooning for a while now, and I can cycle through quite a few “dry orgasms” in a session.

Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Originally Posted by Acid Jazz
I’ve been edging in the clamp, and have heard via some of your favorite member’s thread/posts, that DHT buildup from MMO can cause “issues”. You remember Werner Ashford, right? :)

Oh, yes.

So, what is edging? It’s extended masturbation without ejaculation.

Does masturbation “produce” DHT? No, DHT is a product of testosterone metabolism.

Does masturbation “produce” testosterone? No. Ejaculation causes sperm cells to be released. Testosterone production is stimulated when sperm cells need to be generated. If you’re not ejaculating, testosterone production isn’t stimulated.

No T, no DHT.

There’s no connection.

Regarding “trapped energy” you’ll have to talk to Werner or someone who believes in that mystical stuff. I don’t.

Originally Posted by westla90069

If you’re not ejaculating, testosterone production isn’t stimulated.

There was a study which concluded that 7 days of abstinence gets testosterone to its peak.

Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Originally Posted by alin
There was a study which concluded that 7 days of abstinence gets testosterone to its peak.

That’s seven days of abstinence after ejaculation. The relationship between ejaculation and an increase in testosterone was the point of the study.

Here’s the original post: hobby - Ejaculation hinders gains

Originally Posted by westla90069
Oh, yes.

So, what is edging? It’s extended masturbation without ejaculation.

Yes. However, I actually have “mini” orgasms where my unit with throb like ejaculating, but not cum. Basically, my whole body will feel like the beginning of an “ejaculation orgasm”, but I keep myself from going over the edge. (I pretty much stay near the PONR)

Originally Posted by westla90069
Does masturbation “produce” DHT? No, DHT is a product of testosterone metabolism.

Thanks, Westla, this is what I’m looking for, because I just don’t know the science of it.

Originally Posted by westla90069
Does masturbation “produce” testosterone? No. Ejaculation causes sperm cells to be released. Testosterone production is stimulated when sperm cells need to be generated. If you’re not ejaculating, testosterone production isn’t stimulated.

No T, no DHT.

There’s no connection.

Again, thanks for the clear description of what is going on during this/these process(es). Another question then; does ejaculation help in testosterone production?

Originally Posted by westla90069
Regarding “trapped energy” you’ll have to talk to Werner or someone who believes in that mystical stuff. I don’t.

I’m not much of a mystical guy myself. So, I too have some reservations about the truth in all of this kind of stuff. But, at the same time, I think we are all made of energy, and at some point, some of us learn to either “mess” with it, and create negative results, or “harness” it, (energy), and get quite a bit of benefit.

Bottom line here, is that I doubt highly that edging in the clamp, near the PONR is causing my symptoms, or DHT “buildup” for that matter.
( btw, my blood work came back today, and it was a FULL workup,…… “good” :) Whew! )

Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Originally Posted by Acid Jazz

Another question then; does ejaculation help in testosterone production?

Yes, but it’s a normal mechanism because testosterone is needed for sperm production. I don’t think ejaculation will increase T production over normal levels.

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Bottom line here, is that I doubt highly that edging in the clamp, near the PONR is causing my symptoms, or DHT “buildup” for that matter.

I don’t either. dizziness and fatigue can be caused by any number of things, but I seriously doubt it’s because you edge or have MMOs.

Is the official definition of MMO:

1. having multiple wet, full-ejaculation orgasms? (force many fully-ejaculating-orgasms over and over with a breath technique)

or

2. Chasing the PONR, each time, getting a little feel of orgasm, and never releasing a full ejaculation until the final moment?

Cause #2 I would consider edging, not MMO.

Current size: BPEL: 7.9" EG: 6.75"

Realistic goal: BPEL: 9.25" EG: 7.5"

Unrealistic surgical goal: 12" x 8.5" :)

Originally Posted by 8 x 8

2. Chasing the PONR, each time, getting a little feel of orgasm, and never releasing a full ejaculation until the final moment?

Cause #2 I would consider edging, not MMO.

My understanding, is that the “waves”, and the “little feel of orgasm” are the multiple orgasms. Orgasms do not have to have an ejaculation to be an “orgasm”.

I’m willing to bet that you’ll look this one up? :)

Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

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