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Broccoli Broth Diet for Chronic Prostatitis

Broccoli Broth Diet for Chronic Prostatitis

I’ve had chronic prostatitis for 10 years, maybe longer. Seems like I’ve always had it.
I tried antibiotics—zero help.

Has anyone had any success improving CP with PE?

I found an idea about the broccoli broth diet here:
Http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/broccoli.html

Does anyone know if this actually works or if it’s a crazy gimmick?

I USED to think PE was a crazy gimmick until I gained 1/4 inch in length AND girth in only 4 weeks.
Now I’m a little more open minded about things.

Also, they have these pills to take like Prosta Q and Quercetin.
I visited 3 urologists. All we’re clueless about Boiled broccoli broth diet and the pills.
They gave me antibiotics and bladder relaxers, ordered 3000k in tests that showed I’m “normal” and told me to try some kegels and change my diet.
I realized they don’t really know anything. My cousin, who is an MD, said my case is very difficult to treat based on symptoms presented and he estimated any treatment for me is 80% guess work.

The broccoli thing sounds hoky: this “doctor” can’t describe how it works, he just says, “Boiled Broccoli Broth (BBB) contains many kinds of ingredients (different kinds of bioflavonoids) which are responsible for the BT's therapeutical effects on prostatitis (CP/CPPS).” Let’s see the results of a clinical study, “Doc”.

If it does work, it may be the fasting that does it. Either way, prostate massage, when performed properly, and a change in diet, has been clinically proven to cure chronic prostatitis in many sufferers.

GM

Our resident expert on prostatitis is Avocet8. He’s had personal experience with the disease (so have I, but mine wasn’t chronic). If you’ll select the search button, top right of every page, and then the “Advanced Search” link, you can search for his wisdom. Use “prostatitis” as the search term (“key word”) and “Avocet8” in the “Search by User Name” box. You’ll get some seemingly unrelated threads, but his replies in those with the “p word” in the title may be of interest. The entire list should be less than 30 threads. Don’t know that he’s specifically addressed he broccoli thing, but he can certainly talk about your problem.

Originally Posted by GlandMaster
The broccoli thing sounds hoky: this “doctor” can’t describe how it works, he just says, “Boiled Broccoli Broth (BBB) contains many kinds of ingredients (different kinds of bioflavonoids) which are responsible for the BT's therapeutical effects on prostatitis (CP/CPPS).” Let’s see the results of a clinical study, “Doc”.

If it does work, it may be the fasting that does it. Either way, prostate massage, when performed properly, and a change in diet, has been clinically proven to cure chronic prostatitis in many sufferers.

GM

Prostate massage is like torture to me, but thanks for the links

Mac:

It will be painful, until the inflammation goes down, but it’s worth trying seriously, perhaps with a desensitising lubricant at first.

GM

What you have to understand first is that there are several forms of prostatitis. The two primary ones are chronic Bacterial Prostatitis and one called CPPS. In the first, if you hunt it down properly, you can often find evidence of bacterial infection. With CPPS, bacteria does not show up in tests however its symptoms are very similar in terms of pain and discomfort. With bacterial prostatitis, though, you more often experience fever (though you may not) and sometimes chills.

The pains of both are frequently what is known as “referred” pain. Your prostate itself may not hurt, but your back, your abdomen, testicles, penis shaft, pelvic floor, sciatic nerve down one leg, etc. may. I have talked with a couple doctors who seem to know their stuff and who believe that both forms start intitially with a bacterial infection of some sort. I tend to believe that myself.

The usual first test performed is a urine culture. These are routinely done over a three day period, not long enough to grow much unless you have very active bacterial prostatitis. Ask for a 5 day culture instead.

Another test is a culture of expressed prostate fluid. Again, ask for the longer culture.

A potentially more revealing test is a semen culture, but many doctors will not suggest these either because many of their male patients are somehow squeemish about giving a sample or because they themselves are squeemish about suggesting one be given. A semen culture though will give a better overall picture if there is bacteria since the fluid will include that of the seminal vessicles which can also be infected. Semen cultures are routinely done on a 3 day basis. 5 days is better. Bacteria which is not revealed in a urine culture will sometimes show up in a semen culture. At least that was so in my case. If you have bacterial prostatitis, knowing what strain(s) you are dealing with can lead you to the best antibiotic for getting rid of them.

The broccoli treatment is not all hokus-pokus. Many men with CPPS do find relief in eating broccoli in many forms, not just broth. My read is that with bacterial prostatitis the effect is not so noticeable but, hey, how can it hurt? Broccoli is good for you anyway. Guys on the prostate boards also say that drinking green tea helps some of them.

If bacteria is found, a short course of antibiotic is not going to help a whole lot, though it may temporarily. The prostate is a highly convoluted organ, many nooks and crannies; pockets in that organ are very resistant to the entry of most antibiotics. Very long courses of antibiotics work better with bacterial prostatitis. The urologist who finally got me out of the Round Robin of chronic bacterial prostatitis had me on Cipro for a solid 8 weeks. 10 day and 2 week courses previously did not work except temporarily. I was told to ejaculate frequently even if that was uncomfortable and to use condoms for sex, which I still do although I have no other reason to. This month marks the 2nd year anniversary of being completely prostatitis free, whereas I had been having bouts as frequently as once a month over a very uncomfortable 5 year period.

Kegel exercises can help if they are comfortable for you. If you get pain from them, avoid them because in doing them you are only further aggravating your already-painful BC muscle.

I was doing very active PE during three of the five years of my bacterial prostatis. PE never changed any aspect of prostate-related discomfort for me, nor did it make it worse.

This post is a little longer than I had planned but prostatitis is a very common problem in both younger and older men and a very mysterious one to many doctors, who often throw up their hands in frustration when it is chronic, sometimes telling you you will just have to live with it. I was told that by a very fine doctor but as I told him, that was not an option for me, the chronic discomfort being so very unpleasant. I kept hunting until I found a doctor curious enough to work with me in sorting things out.


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avocet8

I know nothing at all about prostatitis, but when you mentioned broccoli it immediately reminded me of someone I spoke to on a forum who swore by juiced celery for relief of a different condition that may have some common ground.

Hokus or not, for the effort it takes it might be worth a shot while lining up the conventional treatment.

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Kegel exercises can help if they are comfortable for you. If you get pain from them, avoid them because in doing them you are only further aggravating your already-painful BC muscle.

it’s not a pleasant experience—there is some pain— but it’s bearable. I can easily do 100 in a row if that helps show it doesn’t bother me all that bad. Still okay to do?

That’s left totally up to you. Only you can gauge the discomfort level. I’d guess that if that level of Kegels doesn’t make your prostatitis feel worse, it’s not hurting anything.


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avocet8

I recently took some Chinese herbs for a bout with prostatits. I came to suspect that I had some plugged acini. The herbs have helped quite a bit. I haven’t had any pain or symptons for 2 months now. The blend is called Kai Kit Wan. You can find it all over the net.

Yup. The acini get clogged; makes antibiotics more dicey in the case of bacterial prostatitis. This is why frequent ejaculations help with that.

Good you found something that works for you.


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avocet8

what about prosta q and quercetin? Anyone ever tried these?

Originally Posted by avocet8
Yup. The acini get clogged; makes antibiotics more dicey in the case of bacterial prostatitis. This is why frequent ejaculations help with that.

Good you found something that works for you.

I learned quite a bit about the prostate from this informative, if somewhat strange, site.

http://www.cleanprostate.com/

Recently, I had some painful ejaculations so I laid off of PE for a couple of months. I would jerk off about once a week to see if the pain was still there. It was. I was just about ready to go to a urologist to have myself checked out. I thought I had injured myself doing PE. Then, one day, I felt something different during ejaculation. It was slighly painful and my load felt different. I checked my load and found something strange in it. It was a round, pinkish, fatty looking ball about 1/16” in diameter. I was starting to freak out a little.

Later that day, I discovered the above site. After reading it, and some other sites, I came to the conclusion that I had passed an acini plug. I gave myself a couple of days and then jerked off with no pain or discomfort. I began a 30 day course of Kai Kit just to on the safe side. It’s supposed to help flush out the acini ducts and shrink the prostate.. I also had some really bad back pain that went away after passing the plug and doing the the Kai Kit.

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