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Lecithin and Pygeum Results

Tried Ganesh10in’s shake recipe. A word of warning for it. 1/2 cup of lecithin powder, for me, causes serious intestinal issues. Like, potentially embarrassing diuretic issues.

I went and looked up how much lecithin is considered an “overdose” for the average person, much less what the side affects are. Supposedly, there are “no known overdose” side effects, much less what constitutes an overdose.

The important thing I did learn, was that on the high end of average when prescribed, Lecithin is prescribed in 5 to 10 gram doses up to three times per day. Given that a “standard” “serving” according to the package my Lecithin powder came in is 1.5 tablespoons (equal to 10 grams of Lecithin) and one half cup of powder is 8 tablespoons (80 grams of Lecithin), it follows that the shake recipe Ganesh10in posted is likely to lead to digestion trouble. For me, it is an overdose on Lecithin.

I tried it again today with 1/4 cup of lecithin power, and so far no troubles, though it is too early to tell. If I run into the same problem, I will look into the other ingredients which are likely causing me the problem (possibly the Maca or the Bee Pollen).…and-deficiency/…in/page3_em.htm…de-effects.html

Upped the Lecithin in the recipe to .25 cups + 1 Tablespoon with no ill effects for me. I might up it to .25 cups +2 Tablespoons in a day or so, but I need to be fully functional for the next few days, and I can’t risk diarrhetic incapacitation.

Other than that, so far, so good. I wonder how this would stack with the “Holey Grail” formula?

So here we are a few days later. Not three days later from my previous post I was forced to stop with this shake idea for a week as I was without power at my house. Stupid winter storms and the like!

Anyhow, here are my observations.

1) I cannot do a full half cup of Lecithin each time I make this shake. 1/4 cup + 2 Tablespoons is totally acceptable. I cannot do the full half cup because of what it does to me a few hours later…. not cool at all. Also the reduced amount of Lecithin makes the shake infinitely easier to drink, especially when combined with, point 2.

2) A little less than 1/4 cup of wheat germ (for all of you super precise measuring types out there 1/4 cup minus 1 Tablespoon) is ideal for me. This has nothing to do with physiological consequences later on, it just makes the texture of this shake more palatable to me.

3) Reduce the amount of celery from 8 stalks to 6. I have simply found this to help make a head of celery last two full shakes as opposed to 1.5 shakes. This is a pure budget / supply concession.

So, with that in mind, here is my adapted recipe of Ganesh10’s recipe:

6 fresh celery stalks (juiced)
1 clove garlic (juiced)
2 Tbs. Ginger Root (juiced)
1 cup raw whole milk
Approx. 30 pumpkin seeds (1/2 Tablespoon)
1/4 cup + 2 Tablespoons Lecithin
1/4 - 1 Tablespoon cup wheat germ
1 Tablespoon Maca Root (Gelatinized prefered)
2 Teaspoons Bee Pollen (Caution: you might be highly allergic to Bee Pollen! Try in small doses first, to determine body’s reaction)
1 Tablespoon Raw Honey

Adapted from: Untraditional PE Exercises

Once I got my version of the recipe dialed in, I’ve had no problems with it since those first couple of times I tried it. I will say that I am not making it twice per day as is suggested, so I’m not sure if I am missing out or not. That said, things seem to have increased since I started taking this shake, but that could also be due to good hydration. Good hydration has become a major focus point in my life, since I find my body just functions better when I am properly hydrated. Regular health benefits taken into account, this adapted shake recipe has me feeling pretty good. I’m not producing “Loads of Legend” but the original post does mention that at two shakes per day (grand total of 1 cup of lecithin per day), it takes one full month to reach full potency. Given that I am taking in only 25% of what is in the original formula, I expect it to take longer.

When I get to a point where I am able to do this twice a day, or if I observe any changes that indicate it is working, I will surely post that here. I have yet to combine this with the holy grail plan, but I DO like this a lot more than swallowing fist fulls of pills multiple times each day.

Pro Tip: Mix all of the ingredients quickly. Then drink this as quickly as you feel comfortable doing so. Once the lecithin granules are exposed to moisture they will re-hydrate and thicken the shake up significantly. Depending on how you like the texture of the shake at this point, it may become undrinkable for you.

For me, I have to be quick on the blending part (little hand/ stick/ immersion blender works best) in order to keep it from getting too frothy and undrinkable.

I took the pygeum with zinc for a month and I noticed almost double the load. Still not much because o was always a very small load producer to begin with.

Biggest drawback was that I had to get up to urinate twice a night while on it. I quit taking it and the night pee stopped. Same water intake, give or take a glass.

Anyone else experience this?

Feb 2016 BPEL ?NBPEL 6", EG 5.25

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