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Starting year 4 with no gains

Woke up this morning and thought DAMN ! that looks and feels thicker, grabbed the tape and measured.. Exactly the same girth as always !

Feeling very demotivated at the minute.

Where are you measuring? Three points?

See this is what scares me! I would be very very upset to put that much time into something and get nothing in return. I feel that way now and Ive only dont 4 months of pe with no gains at all. Starting to think this is a bunch of bullshit.

Originally Posted by marinera
Where are you measuring? Three points?

Yup base, mid and about an inch behind the glans. No change.

Originally Posted by cookie tree
See this is what scares me! I would be very very upset to put that much time into something and get nothing in return. I feel that way now and Ive only dont 4 months of pe with no gains at all. Starting to think this is a bunch of bullshit.

I still think PE works as I have recently made a small length gain but I am highly suspicious of some claims made here purely based on my own experience, I know everyone’s different but can we really be that different ? I honestly don’t know.

Still 3 or 4 months is no time at all mate, if you’re serious about this don’t even think about giving up yet but I will say make sure you can deal with failure or prepare to be very unhappy !

BPFSL up again ! still no girth though.

It seems manual stretches do the trick, if only there was an easy way to target girth with them.
I’ve been doing a lot of fulcrums, bundled stretches and tunica tugs which are all supposed to help with girth but are just adding length in my case.

Another interesting week of PE.

Definitely seeing and feeling an increase in girth in the tube but outside of it nothing !

Tried Horse440?

I don’t understand how extending and jelqing don’t work. It has to work if proper technique is used over a long time like 6 months. You get faster results when your healthy with a good diet. But whatever I guess.


Started ~ 2002 14.5 cm BPEL and 13 cm MSEG.

2008: Got serious, Measured ~ 15 cm BPEL and 14 cm in MSEG

1/12/2014: Measured BPEL 17.5 to 18 cm, MSEG 15, BEG 16.5

Originally Posted by marinera
Tried Horse440?

Yup found the pressure too hard to control, I seem to bruise very easily !

Going to continue with tweaking my current routine probably till the end of the summer then if no progress take a break and have a re-think.

One of the cool things about water pumping is that assuming your consistent with your technique you can measure volume gains by the amount of water in your overflow jar.

Starting with a full erection and making sure there are no air bubbles in the tube you pump up to your target pressure and read off how much water’s in the jar.

At the start of the year my jar would be full when I got to 2.5”hg, in the last week it’s only been just under half full.
The jar holds 135ml so I reckon I’m seeing a volume gain of about 50ml even though I can’t seem to measure it !
A gain’s a gain I guess.

I think I’m done !

It’s been 6 months since I started this thread at which point I got a lot of good advice ( thanks guys ) but in spite of taking it all on board and being utterly dedicated over that time I measured today and have not even a 1/2mm gain !
In fact my MSEG measured slightly less than it did 3 1/2 years ago !

In that time I’ve had great PIs and temporary gains but nothing real, it’s just too ridiculous and depressing.

Don’t know what to make of it all but for the time being I’m beat.

Sad to hear it. At least you got some length gains even though you weren’t really interested.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" volume 7.3 ci ////// Now 7.4" x 4.9" volume 14.1 ci

Capernicus1,

I know exactly how you feel brother .

How much extender use have you logged in to date? have you been steadily increasing the device length?

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