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Sojelq Shrugged

A lengthy excerpt from New Jelq City for future reference:

New Jelq City!
Jelqing is the basis of manual PE. Anyone who’s spent any time at all on this forum should know what jelqing is, even if they haven’t tried it. The basic jelq is very simple—deceptively simple. Grasp the penis in an OK grip at the base and “milk” the shaft by stroking with a firm grip up toward the glans to move blood around and stretch/expand the penis. At the end of the stroke, grasp the base with the other hand and repeat.

But how hard do you grip? How erect should you be? What does a good jelq feel like? How do you know when you’ve jelqed enough vs. too much? How and why does the function of the jelq change at different erection levels? Wet jelqs vs. dry jelqs?

I would like to hear from experienced jelqers on this subject. I’d also like to hear about variations on the basic jelq, what has worked and what hasn’t.

Here are some of my experiences and observations:

Most guys seem to be interested in gaining some length as a top priority. It’s well known that you should target length before going for girth. In my experience, it is true that it can be harder to gain length the more girth you have. So target girth only after getting close to you length goals. (There is a good chance you’ll get some extra girth by doing length-focused exercises anyway.)

“Flaccid” Jelqing, or “the Jelq Stretch”

As far as jelqing for length, my feeling is that most guys are jelqing at an erection level that is too high. What I’m about to say flies in the face of received wisdom. Most instructions for jelqing say 40-50% is the minimum erection level one should jelq at. The videos also show jelqing at 50-70% erection level. I consider this erect jelqing. For me, this jelq is only useful for maintenance. The unit is too hard (rigid) to target length, and not hard enough to really target girth adequately. It is possible that this is only applicable to guys with thicker girth (say 5+), but it is certainly true for me.

The reason it is generally advised not to jelq below 40% e level is the dreaded “baseball bat effect.” This is not an issue for me, since my unit is shaped like a missile and it would take an inch in girth for my upper shaft and glans to match my mid shaft girth. Also, I have seen no evidence of someone who’s got the baseball bat effect from jelqing, and even it is true, I would imagine that targeted girth work like clamping could even out the unit. Also, the way I do it, the pressure of the grip is adjusted throughout the stroke so that there is never enough pressure on the glans and upper shaft to qualify as a girth exercise.

For length, I jelq straight down (SD) at an erection no higher than 20-30%. There should be no rigidity in the unit whatsoever—basically what you want is a “softie”—a unit that looks like a good flaccid hang, but not semi-erect. I do wet jelqs. I use an overhand OK grip, grasp firmly at the base and pull SD. At the beginning of the stroke, there is a strong pull on the ligs/base. About halfway down, the blood in the unit will be expanding the upper shaft and glans. The grip is adjusted so there’s not too much pressure as the stroke is completed and a little back flow is allowed as the opposite hand forms an OK grip at the base for the next stroke.

At the end of the stroke, I stop just behind the glans and hold a stretch in this position, then turn my hand out so that the glans is forming the foot of an L before releasing for the next stroke. Strokes are slow, between five and ten seconds.

How it feels:

Behind the stroke, the tunica and ligs feel like they are being stretched. (I get occasional lig pops doing this.) After the midstroke point, the lower shaft and ligs continue to be stretched while the upper shaft and glans feel mildly expanded. I have to be careful to allow enough back flow that the glans is not too expanded for the final stretch/tug at the end and the grip can be firm enough to really get a good stretch.

I will often pause at various stages of the stroke (1/4 up, 1/2 up, and 3/4 up) and kegel for ten seconds then release and continue. I bend the unit into an L shape as described above and focus on the stretch. When you kegel like this, you are stretching against the tug-back, and when you release you can feel your unit relaxing into the stretch.

Controlling erection level:

With this variation, there is really not a concern with having too low of an erection level. If I’m 100% flaccid (0% erection), which is only very rarely at the very beginning of a session, a few light strokes will give me enough blood to work with, or I can just do SD stretches. 5% e level is enough blood to work with.

If the e level gets above 25%, I grip firmly at the base, do a half stroke, then do a Uli type squeeze while pulling up to get a kind of inverted V stretch with blood trapped in the upper shaft. Or else I push staight down and rotate my hand to get the L shape. Sometime I’ll rotate the unit in a helicopter motion while holding the squeze. After about a minute e level comes back down to manageable levels. Once e level is back down I’ll focus on just stretching to allow the unit to calm down and stay in exercise mode before continuing with the jelqing. Also, if the jelq strokes are starting to cause too much stimulation, I will focuse on pausing at the various stages of the stroke and feeling the stretch without friction, as mentioned above.

O-bend type exercises are also good for bringing e level down. These “Ulis,” squeezes and bends are not intense enough, held long enough, or repeated enough to target girth—they’re just a means of managing e levels while keeping blood moving in the unit.

I think this approach might be the key to gaining length from jelqing, at least for some people.


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

I’ve applied skin cream to my glans twice per day. This has moistened and softened the tissue. It has increased sensitivity and erection response. As a result, my EQ has gotten better. Sexual enjoyment has risen as well


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

I’ve slowed the rate of each jelq to 5 seconds per stroke. By doing so, I accentuate the ballooning effect of each stroke, and feel greater expansion (especially in the head and top half inch of the shaft). Slow and steady and unrushed. Feels right.

Also, I add a drop - maybe two - of peppermint oil to the coconut oil that I use for jelqing. More would burn, but this amount leaves a nice tingling that soothes for an hour post-jelq


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

I had the first Gainswave session. 20 minutes of my dick getting zapped by high frequency acoustic waves. Took 7 hours for numbing gel to wear off

Time will tell if this has merit. Published studies show efficacy in ED middle aged men. I don’t have ED. Just looking for enhancement.

5 more sessions to go.


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

To jelq or not to jelq, that’s the question. Maybe I’ll break from PE during the 4 weeks I’m getting Gainswave.


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

I’ve had two Gainswave (acoustic wave) therapy sessions so far. Thicker flaccid — not major increase but noticeable. Ease of erection is noticeable as are more night time erections. The physician who is administering the treatments suggested some ongoing maintence treatments after the initial set of 6 treatments.

We’ll see. 4 more sessions to come over next 3 weeks.


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

Originally Posted by Sojelq
I’ve had two Gainswave (acoustic wave) therapy sessions so far. Thicker flaccid — not major increase but noticeable. Ease of erection is noticeable as are more night time erections. The physician who is administering the treatments suggested some ongoing maintence treatments after the initial set of 6 treatments.

We’ll see. 4 more sessions to come over next 3 weeks.

Where or what sort of establishment administers “Gainswave” treatments? What is the cost?

Sorry if I’m late to the party. But now I’m totally mystified.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

If you google Gainswave, you’ll come across background info on this. Richard Gaines is a physician who is popularizing this, although physicians unaffiliated with his clinic also perform this therapy

There’s a growing network of MDs across the US who administer the therapy. Not covered by insurance

Originally developed to disintegrate kidney stones, this therapy when applied to the penis is theoretically helpful because it breaks up micro-plaque in penile blood vessels. A few published studies in Sweden show efficacy in middle aged men with ED (especially diabetics)

It’s certainly new and being used in an off-label manner. Cash outlay seemed worthwhile to me. Risk-reward is attractive. It’s non-surgical and I’m eager for enhanced performance and sexual fulfillment. I’m not diabetic, don’t have ED and am in excellent health. So I’m only looking for enhancement (which is supported anecdotally and through limited published studies)


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

4 treatments of Gainswave so far. My flaccid is thicker almost all the time and I’m having more nighttime erections, morning erections.

Not jelqing while undergoing this therapy (it’s enough right now to just have my dick zapped for 20 minutes) but have been pumping (with heat) 3 times per week for 35 minutes at increasing pressure (3 then 4 then 5 then 6 hg.). Hit 1/8th inch length gain in tube versus all time record, and girth while under pressure is excellent.

After my initial set of 6 Gainswave treatments, I think I’ll continue with 1 every 2 months to maintain the tissue enhancement.


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

Trying to decide if I should get a PRP shot after I finish the Gainswave treatment. The doc thinks that the P shot will definitely add to girth (even more so than the 5 Gainswave sessions that I’ve had so far). I’ll give it some thought — wouldn’t do it until January at the earliest. Also, I haven’t measured yet since doing Gainswave — I want to see what measurable gain I’ve actually experienced before trying PRP.

Pumped today after my Gainswave. Looking quite thick. Length is at or exceeded prior max so there’s definitely some good from the treatments

Will measure soon. Just need a chance to be alone and get erect and then do a few confirming measurements


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

Nailed another 1/8 inch so now girth is solidly 5.5.

Combination of acoustic wave therapy and jelqing and pumping for last 1.5 years

Strangely - BPEL dropped a bit. Don’t feel right keeping signature at 7” anymore when 6.875 is more often the measurement.

That’s okay - I’ve decided that having a wide pipe gets the reaction I’m looking for (even more so than a long one).

Come January, I’ll get a PRP shot with same doctor who has administered the acoustic wave therapy. He thought that would add to girth.


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

This morning’s BJ and intercourse were phenomenal. EQ spot on. Felt thick as my girth has moved in the right direction these last few months.

No comment tho…..maybe she was too busy and into the moment


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

Definitely following this thread for the duration! Thanks for the detailed updates!


Starting 10/09/17: BPEL 7” & MSEG 4.75”

Current 12/18/17: 7 1/2" BPEL & 5" MSEG

Goal: BPEL 9” & MSEG 6”

As much as I’ve focused on making make unit bigger to please the girls (and myself), I get more comments about the rest of me than my dick. Today’s comment was on both —and that was certainly ego gratifying. To have her comment on my body, and touch my pecs and abs in an admiring way ….this was as much of a turn on for her as for me. She then looked down at my dick, and smiled, and said something to the effect of “hope it fits”. She had that long and lean body. I admired her too. Her English wasn’t great, but she spoke well enough to convey her thoughts clearly and this made me all the more excited.

In any event, good reminder that it’s the body, the face, the smiling, the conversation…..this is what gets things started and makes the girls sexually aroused….long before they get to my dick.

Perhaps I’m just shallow, but I like it. I like the compliments. Turns me on as well.

Good reminder of why all the time in the gym and the discipline I use on my diet to keep lean is worthwhile. PE is great. But no substitute for focusing on keeping all of me in tip-top shape


June 18: 7 x 5.5. (Starting stats: Feb 2016: 6.25 x 5")

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