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Gentlepsycopath's road to 8 inches

Originally Posted by srep
Good to see you are still active. Your journey is an inspiration for me. I have been lurking and reading your posts and your recommendations. We have also had some guide discussion in the Greek thread.

I have started PE (again) with manual stretching for 3 weeks already. I have also read the thread “Tips and Tricks for manual stretching”. Now I had a vacation break as well.

I may come back to ask for your help on some questions regarding my technique and routine.

I am not in a hurry, but I really need to see the first PE gains/results on my penis, which I can assume can feel very exciting and motivating to continue.

I am really happy to hear that and thank you for your kind words. Dont wait and ask whatever you want about your routine.

It is really very exciting to see gains and i am addicted to this feeling. But the most important thing is to BE PATIENT! Everyone in the greek forum is in hurry for gains. I see PE as a life commitment. Pick one method for example manual stretching and really stick with it. It may sounds simple but as the time goes by you will see a dramatic improvement in your technique.

Dont worry about supplements, different methods etc. Be consistent and give your body time to repair the micro-damages. All you need to increase your penis size is to enlarge the tunica albuginea. Tunica is a living tissue and an appreciable elongation is a result of adaption, you have to think in terms of years of commitment.


Last edited by Gentlepsychopath : 08-20-2018 at .

Thanks for the reply and the information. I appreciate your willingness to help.

For 3 weeks now I have been doing manual stretching, using the V grip.

- 5 mins heating with IR (I think it is the most comfortable way to heat without messing with hot water or anything else)
- 2 sets of 3 minutes downward stretching. I do one set with left hand and one set with right hand.
- 2 sets of 3 minutes left and right
- 5 mins heating with IR (again)
- 2 sets of 3 minutes of downward stretching (again)

Total time 18 mins of stretching.

I am not yet sure about the amount of force I should apply. No matter how strong I do it, I do not feel too much of a difference on the stretched penis. However, when I push strong, I do feel discomfort and very small pain under the glans, which can be there the whole day, but usually gone by the morning. In general I try not to stretch with too much force, but sometime I try to add a bit of it.

Also, I am not sure if I even do those stretches correctly. I am sitting on a couch. For downward stretches, I have to put my hand under my thigh and sometimes I use my thigh for extra force (which means that my hand is not tired at all). I use the V grip and the palm is looking towards the floor. Also, those are not purse downwards stretches, because there is some slight angle either to the left or to the right, based on the hand I am using. Do you think this is a correct technique?

When I stretch left or right, I usually have to use my other hand in order to sustain the grip.

After the first sets, my penis becomes extremely flaccid, which can make the consequent grips more difficult. I use a toilet paper to assist the grip.

Finally, I am also doing some light piss pulls. Not something special, just 1 minute total of stretching, usually down-left and down right. During piss pulls, I can feel the upper side of the penis (tunica) being stretched, from top to the shaft (I do not have this stretching feeling when I do them while sitting on the couch). Does that make sense?

Sorry for the long post, this is what I am doing.

Any feedback is highly appreciated. Any comments about the technique and the duration?

Thanks.


Start 05/09/2017: BPEL 6.1'', NBPEL 5.5'' (at best) , EG 5.1''

Goal: BPEL 7'', NBEL: 6''+ , EG whatever

Originally Posted by srep
Any feedback is highly appreciated. Any comments about the technique and the duration?

Thanks.

You should do SD stretches standing up. Also double their total duration. Do 4x3min sets, each set with as less changes as possible (eg. 45sec + 5sec to release the grip and ‘defatigue’ the hand + repeat) and add one set each week.

If 100% is the maximum force you feel you can apply, stay at about 50-60%. In my experience the hard part is that a long duration grip hurts your hand.

The piss pulls imo are irrelevant. The goal is to be able to adhere to a rigor routine for the long term.

I’m not sure if the second heating makes any difference. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn’t, if it’s a part of your routine let it be!


6,3 x 5 (7 Sep 2017)

Day 1 -> Present Time: And this is how it starts

Originally Posted by srep
Thanks for the reply and the information. I appreciate your willingness to help.

For 3 weeks now I have been doing manual stretching, using the V grip.

- 5 mins heating with IR (I think it is the most comfortable way to heat without messing with hot water or anything else)
- 2 sets of 3 minutes downward stretching. I do one set with left hand and one set with right hand.
- 2 sets of 3 minutes left and right
- 5 mins heating with IR (again)
- 2 sets of 3 minutes of downward stretching (again)

Total time 18 mins of stretching.

I am not yet sure about the amount of force I should apply. No matter how strong I do it, I do not feel too much of a difference on the stretched penis. However, when I push strong, I do feel discomfort and very small pain under the glans, which can be there the whole day, but usually gone by the morning. In general I try not to stretch with too much force, but sometime I try to add a bit of it.

Also, I am not sure if I even do those stretches correctly. I am sitting on a couch. For downward stretches, I have to put my hand under my thigh and sometimes I use my thigh for extra force (which means that my hand is not tired at all). I use the V grip and the palm is looking towards the floor. Also, those are not purse downwards stretches, because there is some slight angle either to the left or to the right, based on the hand I am using. Do you think this is a correct technique?

When I stretch left or right, I usually have to use my other hand in order to sustain the grip.

After the first sets, my penis becomes extremely flaccid, which can make the consequent grips more difficult. I use a toilet paper to assist the grip.

Finally, I am also doing some light piss pulls. Not something special, just 1 minute total of stretching, usually down-left and down right. During piss pulls, I can feel the upper side of the penis (tunica) being stretched, from top to the shaft (I do not have this stretching feeling when I do them while sitting on the couch). Does that make sense?

Sorry for the long post, this is what I am doing.

Any feedback is highly appreciated. Any comments about the technique and the duration?

Thanks.

Your routine is fine. 3 mins is a very good duration. Your technique is good too. I use my left hand to support my grip every time, it really helps a lot to not fatigue your gripping hand.

Alex is right: i have noticed that when i am standing, pushing my abdomen back and bend my knees a little the stretch is very efficient.
But sometimes i perform my downward stretches sitting down. It doesnt really matter so much, the point is to keep your penis stretched.

Dont worry about the force. Again the most important thing is TIME: For how long your penis is under stretch? (Total time)
You are not supposed to feel something special while stretching, the stretching feeling itself is enough. “The more force=more gains” mentality is proven wrong, especially if you are in your first year of PE.

I use toilet paper too, it is the best for the grip. Try to not squezze your glans too much and try to gently “push” at the stretch direction or just hold the stretch. Its good to be total flaccid, the most efficient stretch happens when you are total flaccid.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Alex, your threads are also a good inspiration for me, I am following your journey. I hope you will have good results with hanging. By the way how did you decide to stop manuals? Do you think that you cannot gain more with them?

From my side, I think I will stick with the total time of 18 mins until end of September. I do not think my penis can handle more at the moment. My penis feels “tired” after stretching and it also turtles a lot. Or do you guys think this is sign of over-training? I understand how you advice to take it easy, but I want to avoid the case of stretching for nothing so I can assume that some not too strong but still “good” force should be applied.

I also do not want to measure often. Actually, the last time I measured as shown in my signature is from last year. On the other hand, at the beginning, measuring is essential in order to check if you have any gains. After convincing myself that gains are real, the measurement anxiety can go away. For me, I think a good time to measure again is end of September after having consistent 2 months stretching with the above routine. Does that make sense, or is it too early?

I have measured my BPFSL a few times lately, which is something between 16 - 16.5 cm. Do you guys measure BPFSL after a stretching session? I think this would always give higher measurement, right?

Thanks!


Start 05/09/2017: BPEL 6.1'', NBPEL 5.5'' (at best) , EG 5.1''

Goal: BPEL 7'', NBEL: 6''+ , EG whatever

Originally Posted by srep
Thanks for the feedback guys.

Alex, your threads are also a good inspiration for me, I am following your journey. I hope you will have good results with hanging. By the way how did you decide to stop manuals? Do you think that you cannot gain more with them?

i stopped because of life responsibilities, it didn’t have to do with PE, but i had gotten to a point that it was very tiring to do them. i spent about an hour per session and my hands hurt a lot from the constant pressure. i tried to attach an elastic rubber and to hang but man, it is very complicated. what i do now is that i ‘grab’ the penis with the wooden device i made, and just stretch that with my hands. this way i do not have to apply ny pressure to secure the penis from slipping which is the hard part. it’s actually really long duration (20min) stretches. VERY comfortable and the skin is not stretched at all. judging from gentle’s results i think a 4x20min + 1x20min routine per day could give me about +2-3cm in the next 1-2 years which is my length goal, ΕΙΔΙΚΑ εαν χωσω και fulcrums μεσα αργοτερα (ε γαμω τη γλωσσα τους δεν αντεξαλολ).

Turtling is normal. Pro tip: after you finish the stretching session, do a few jelqs or just edge (masturbate but dont finish). it’s good for the penis to have blood in it after the session in order to heal better (growth happens during healing). αυτο ειναι κοινως αποδεκτο απ’το community.

imo doesn’t matter if you measure or not as long as you dont cheat your program. just stick with it. you’ll see that as time goes by you won’t even care to measure, you’ll be too bored to do it.

BPFSL imo is the most useless stat even though some say its a great indicator of BPEL growth to come. personally i dont even know what my starting number was.

@gentle the SO angle stretches the skin much less compared to SD. eg when you stretch left, the right part of the skin will be more stretched then the left. when you stretch SO all sides will be stretched equally less the the right part of the left stretch and more than the left part of the left stretch. isn’t the SD supposed to be the king though? do you think at least one of my sets should be SD or eeeh doesn’t really matter?


6,3 x 5 (7 Sep 2017)

Day 1 -> Present Time: And this is how it starts

Originally Posted by srep
Thanks for the feedback guys.

Alex, your threads are also a good inspiration for me, I am following your journey. I hope you will have good results with hanging. By the way how did you decide to stop manuals? Do you think that you cannot gain more with them?

From my side, I think I will stick with the total time of 18 mins until end of September. I do not think my penis can handle more at the moment. My penis feels “tired” after stretching and it also turtles a lot. Or do you guys think this is sign of over-training? I understand how you advice to take it easy, but I want to avoid the case of stretching for nothing so I can assume that some not too strong but still “good” force should be applied.

I also do not want to measure often. Actually, the last time I measured as shown in my signature is from last year. On the other hand, at the beginning, measuring is essential in order to check if you have any gains. After convincing myself that gains are real, the measurement anxiety can go away. For me, I think a good time to measure again is end of September after having consistent 2 months stretching with the above routine. Does that make sense, or is it too early?

I have measured my BPFSL a few times lately, which is something between 16 - 16.5 cm. Do you guys measure BPFSL after a stretching session? I think this would always give higher measurement, right?

Thanks!

If you feel that you cant handle more stick with the 18 mins stretching time. Its all good.

Turtling is a protective reaction of your body. Is a sigh that you have produced micro-tears, its good. After that you need rest.

Measure BPFSL is very convenient and consistent. Bpel can vary and you need 100% EQ to see if you have gained. I measure BPFSL often. Its not always give higher measurement after stretching, but when it does its sure a good indicator.

Originally Posted by alexsub0
i stopped because of life responsibilities, it didn’t have to do with PE, but i had gotten to a point that it was very tiring to do them. i spent about an hour per session and my hands hurt a lot from the constant pressure. i tried to attach an elastic rubber and to hang but man, it is very complicated. what i do now is that i ‘grab’ the penis with the wooden device i made, and just stretch that with my hands. this way i do not have to apply ny pressure to secure the penis from slipping which is the hard part. it’s actually really long duration (20min) stretches. VERY comfortable and the skin is not stretched at all. judging from gentle’s results i think a 4x20min + 1x20min routine per day could give me about +2-3cm in the next 1-2 years which is my length goal, ΕΙΔΙΚΑ εαν χωσω και fulcrums μεσα αργοτερα (ε γαμω τη γλωσσα τους δεν αντεξαλολ).

Turtling is normal. Pro tip: after you finish the stretching session, do a few jelqs or just edge (masturbate but dont finish). it’s good for the penis to have blood in it after the session in order to heal better (growth happens during healing). αυτο ειναι κοινως αποδεκτο απ’το community.

imo doesn’t matter if you measure or not as long as you dont cheat your program. just stick with it. you’ll see that as time goes by you won’t even care to measure, you’ll be too bored to do it.

BPFSL imo is the most useless stat even though some say its a great indicator of BPEL growth to come. personally i dont even know what my starting number was.

@gentle the SO angle stretches the skin much less compared to SD. eg when you stretch left, the right part of the skin will be more stretched then the left. when you stretch SO all sides will be stretched equally less the the right part of the left stretch and more than the left part of the left stretch. isn’t the SD supposed to be the king though? do you think at least one of my sets should be SD or eeeh doesn’t really matter?

My personal opinion is that the SD stretch is more effective. Only when stretching downward i can feel the maximum tension. It may stretches the skin more but it doesnt matter if your technique is ok(if you are not gripping the skin).
Yes i believe that you should SD.

Still gaining. I am now 7.8 bpel, very close to 8. I believe that i have gained a little girth too.

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