Four months progress - Jelqing only - 0.75''

Likewise on the rest and everything you’ve said. Spot on, and it matches the same conclusions I’ve reached. I like that you are a manual guy as well. Nothing against devices, but I am a purist in most of the things I do. There is some sort of sick satisfaction to “doing it the hard way” that I enjoy. It hearkens back to your comment about guys wanting a big truck or a big pecker to make them feel good. Doing it the hard way is one of the things that makes me feel more manly.

Anyway, on the measuring point, I have cut back on measuring as well. I was measuring every Monday, and that really helps in the beginning. You’ll see some snaps and get inspired. It also helps determine if a routine is actually working, because you should see something noticeable during the workout if you measure before and after. I’m not disciplined enough to wait months for another measure, but I am confident enough in my routine, now, that I can resist the urge to measure more than once a month. I measure on the last Monday, just had one.

I’ve been using a MWF routine, two or three times daily on workout days. I stretch and jelq separately, ten minutes or so for each set. I try really hard to catch the morning wood for jelqs. The holidays have mucked up the schedule, but in January I’ll get on it and settle into a weekly routine.

I also agree that changing it up every few weeks is important. I do that with my bodily workouts, and do the same with my PE. As stated, I am not trying to condition my penis to take a beating, although that is somewhat necessary in order to perform the exercises. So changing up the routine, even a little bit, will prevent slipping into a groove. Even something as simple as changing grip, hold times, intensity or the order of exercises is enough to prevent over-training.

Great thread.

- Saul

I agree I think doing it “the hard way” gives me more of a sense of accomplishment. It is much more simple and easier to stealth that way as well as cheaper. Literally making it bigger for free. I think I have experimented enough to go without measuring as well. I got my routine to a point where I get morning wood everyday now.

I trust only my own hands, first of all because it gives me great satisfaction, but also because I can afford to be patient. I started with an average sized penis and I don’t feel any pressure to gain fast. Like I said from the beginning, it’s a personal goal. It gives me a psychological edge in life. The idea to take a 3-month break from measuring is something I can afford to do now that I know jelqing works. It would have been a lot harder to do in my first months of PE when I was looking for confirmation more than anything. It may grow fast or it may grow slow. It’s certainly slower than I hoped for when I started in July, but frankly I was being unrealistic back then. Even 1”/year with very consistent and hard work behind it would be great gain in my opinion. So everyone out there don’t be discouraged if you work hard and put in hours and discipline for only a small gain. It takes time; it really does. I’ve read guys saying they’ve gained 1.5” in 6 months from manual only. Maybe it’s possible; perhaps it depends on the shape of your penis; the size you begin with; how elastic your ligs and septum are; your body type (if you are a fast-grower); your diet and lifestyle. For the average Joe, however, assume 1/4” every two months and be happy if you see it happening. That’s my advice. Be patient, be consistent and be a believer.

I’d like to be 8” NBP by Jan 1, 2018. We’ll see if that’s possible. If not, I’ll keep doing it. Even when I’ll have achieved my goal I’ll still keep a 1 day/week routine just for fitness purposes.

Anyway, will be back in April. I’m very excited about taking a long break from measuring. I’m also curious if my visual estimates will be confirmed by my official measurement on April 1.

This was the thread I needed. Thanks a bunch mate

This thread has encouraged me. I myself have started a routine to really test PE for myself. I’ve been here for 5 years now (didn’t create an account though) but been on and off, and very inconsistent with it. But I’ve decided to create a plan and stick to it at least till the end of December to see what happens. And Continue no matter what because I noticed keeping up with a routine with consistency doesn’t only help your progress but also trains your mind to persevere and keep through anything at all. I’m encouraged by this thread. Thank you.