Finding xeno: a penis tale

Xeno,

Really enjoying the IPR protocol. I have constructed a CC, TT and TTr. Very impressed with all of them although I do need to perfect my technique with the CC. Not confident enough to wear it out of the house without it coming off yet. BB and SS stretches are amazing and I certainly understand what you mean by feeling like penis is falling out of your pelvis.
A few questions: Are you doing the BB/SS stretches only during the I phase? Are you changing to a R phase after that and leaving the stretches to the next I phase of gradually phasing them out?
How crucial is the CC? I have been using it when I can, and recall you saying a little is better than none and a lot is not much better than a little. As my attachment technique improves I can see me using it more.
I’m loving this way of PE, I’m due for a R phase after my last I phase workout in a few days. Looking forward to some rest.

Many thanks for all your help and knowledge.
R.

Great to know RR360…I’m impressed that you’ve constructed all of the gizmos that I’ve come up with! I can assure you that they will serve you well although I suspect that you have come to this conclusion already!

Ah yes, I remember it well…I actually designed and built several CC retention devices, the final iteration of which I referred to as the Omega Clamp (OC); I hope you find it encouraging to know that I ultimately scrapped using it or anything else for CC retention and now simply use two HTW, with the second wrapped over the CC for CC retention…simple is better with the CC. FWIW, occasionally I’ll hang a 10lb. CC aggregate (10 individual CCs all wrapped over each other into one device) and simply use a Cable Cuff to retain it. Can go hours at a time.

Very glad to learn of this; yes, they are amazing! I’m convinced that both, over time, are serving to reveal inner penis in the same manner that suspensory ligament surgery accomplishes. And no scar :) . These are more important that I can say.

Great question: I continue with both stretches throughout my IPR cycles; my thinking being that ligamenture doesn’t conform to the same soft tissue systematics that the IPR protocol is mean t to address. And the stretches take so little time, I can expose new soft tissue (inner penis) during the R-phase…with very little time/effort that I can then whip ass on in the following I-phase. Seriously.

Not important. I think that I accurately characterized the magnitude of it’s importance to TG recently by describing it as the cherry on top of a beautifully frosted cake…it’s that degree of detail…unimportant to the overall product, but a nice touch that CC use represnts. Since you’ve already built the device(s), I certainly encourage you to utilize it…disc golf is especially advantageous as each drive and long approach shot imposes a ‘helicopter-like’ stress…and heck, disc golf is just fun! But I digress, with time you’ll be able to use your CC all day with aplomb.

Righto; that’s when the magic of tissue proliferation; hyperplasia happens. An IPR PE practitioner doesn’t create gains, he creates the conditions for gains to happen naturally through subsequent normal biological processes…through the REST that he then takes. And the magic of cellular biology happens.

I’m honored and privileged to have been of service.

Thanks for sharing your experience and best wishes for continued realization of you PE goals.

xeno

Thank you for the quick and detailed reply Xeno. All questions answered thoroughly. I have one more if you would, my TTr is constructed from edging/trim that I found at the hardware store. It is excellent dimension wise but the edge is rounded slightly. Will this reduce the effectiveness of the device? I recall you saying you sanded the rough edges off yours but I wonder if this is too much of a rounded edge. It seems to work fine but wanted your input on whether I need to construct one with more of an angled edge. I can supply a photo if that would help.

Regards.
R360

Great question; enough so that I don’t know. My TTr has the rounded edges found on commercial 2”x4” lumber (the sanding that I did was on the edges of my TT) . FWIW, I think my TTr would be more effective if it had less rounded edges….and a steeper angle to it’s ridges. To be honest, my sense is that I can achieve an equivalent level of deformation with the TTr that I have (releative to the “perfect” TTr) through more pressure…probably flawed logic…but until I build that better TTr, that’s the story that I’m sticking too :D .

RR, you’re clearly an explorer; I encourage you to experiment with your TTr configuration and then inform the forum!

Thanks for sharing your experience.

xeno

I will continue on and let you know my progress.

Many thanks again Xeno.
R360

xeno,

I’ve seen what could be gains here recently towards the end of the I-phase of my campaign. Multiple Clamps/Bends with PEFF Pumping #2

Now, the first 3 weeks was mostly experimentation and lighter work than now and had a gap of a few weeks between them and the last couple weeks (which were gappy also).

Should I stay on track for 2 more sessions (one more week) and R-phase it? Or should I go 6 more sessions (3 more weeks) and total 4 weeks of the heavy work I’ve been doing before R-phase?

Thanks Xeno.

A little over halfway through your thread, some really interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing.

Really don’t know…and am uncomfortable speculating. My experience has shown me that gains can come with really small amounts of time; note: not small amounts of effort, but small amounts of time. But I can’t know or even guess with any confidence…though if pressed, I’d say err on the side of less rather than more. Importantly, ultimately, I think it’s of critical importance that an IPR PE practitioner become something of a penis whisperer…a task which I’d prefer to leave to you :) .

xeno

Thanks for the kind acknowledgement of my effort to be helpful. Glad that you’re finding something of value!

xeno

Xeno this thread is an absolute gold mine! I’m interested in creating my own Tiger Trap and I appologize if you’ve gone over this before but what are the dimension of the TT? What did you use for the "teeth"? How did you use this to enhance EL gains?

This should be helpful:
xenolith - Finding xeno: a penis tale

xenolith - Finding xeno: a penis tale
Note the use of corner molding.

I’ve written much on the design objectives of the TT…that I don’t have sufficient energy to chase down now…sorry…but the essence of the answer to your question is that through simple compressions with a device that, upon compression, imposes a deviatoric strain in both the longitudinal and the radial vectors, one’s tissues are subjected to deformations that are, as far as I’m aware, unachievable by other means. When accompanied by sufficient rest to allow for fibrobalst formation and collagen speciation, hyperplasia takes place at the deformation sites.

Important caveat: while effective for length gains, my experience indicates that TT use is more effective for girth gains…by about a factor of 1.5. Still a smoking deal PE-wise for the effort expended. And with appropriate, i.e. highly consistent, use of Bucking Bronco and Sumo Stretches, that ratio can be brought closer to 1:1.

Thanks for the kind words; mine that gold.

xeno

Ahhhh I see it completely now. I’ve read up to page 40 and was too excited to read the last 8 pages. I’ve already incorporated sumo stretches into my routine and I think they are one of the reasons for my recent 1.0 cm gain BPSFL and 0.32 cm gain in BPEL since I started back up. I will have to try the Bucking Bronco soon.

I ordered solid lead wire and heat shrink tubing off amazon to make my own Cock Coil, the tubing is clear and I was able to order different lengths. I look forward to experimenting with those. The versatility and possibility of stretching the tunica with an ADS intrigues me.

Hi RR, hey I just noted your photo offer…I’d LOVE to see your TTr! Maybe it would inspire others to tackle the construction project.

Yes, please post a photo!

Thanks!

xeno

p.s. has any one built a TT? I think it’s only BeardedDragon and RR360 that have so far built a TTr…

I would build it if I had a better English, some of the things I read here are not quite clear for me as I’m not a native and translator sometimes are not that reliable with some terms.

I saw the picture you posted once but didn’t quite get it.

That’s a bummer, man.

Does this (spanish translation of this post: xenolith - Finding xeno: a penis tale) help at all?

Tiger Trap lista de piezas:

2 bloques de madera, tamaño para su pene. Utilizo 6 "L x 4.5" W x 7/8 "grueso. Usted quiere considerar la longitud del eje que el dispositivo se colocará en … mientras que la cuenta de la anchura de cualquier número de abrazaderas de cable (@ 0,5 "de ancho por pinza) que se fijará a la base de su eje antes de aplicar su TT, Y la longitud de su glande … usted no quiere que su glande en el TT. Para una idea de lo que significa en términos de decidir sobre el ancho de bloque, Tiger es de 8,5 "NPEL; Ahora restar 1 "para las 2 abrazaderas de cable que sujeto la base al realizar compresiones de TT, = 7.5", ahora restar 2.0 "para la longitud de mi glande, = 5.5". Así que el ancho máximo de TT que podría usar sería de 5,5 ", lo que colocaría los bordes de la TT snug contra la abrazadera de cable segundo y snug contra mi cresta coronal … ¡ay! Por lo tanto, el punto de ser, creo que es una buena práctica para restar alrededor de otro 1 ", = 4.5" para lo que el ancho es correcto para mi TT … bastante cerca de 0,5 x Tiger BPEL (9.125 ") … que, probablemente se puede utilizar para un rough Aproximación de qué ancho funcionará mejor para la mayoría de los penes. Esa pulgada permite la flexibilidad longitudinal de la colocación que es importante utilizar, de lo contrario uno estará siempre agotando el mismo lugar en la túnica … no quiere hacer eso, quiere un lugar de tensión, a continuación, dejarlo en paz. En su lugar, mueva el dispositivo y coloque otra ubicación. Esa es toda la razón de ser de la Trampa Tigre … poder aplicar estrés a lugares discretos de la túnica. Pero yo divago…
4 pernos de retraso, la longitud puede variar un pedacito, idealmente bastante largo de modo que cuando abierto, el TT permita la entrada y la salida rápidas (6 "L trabaja bien para mí); El diámetro no es importante; Yo uso 1/4 ".
4 pies de borde de piso "esquina" recorte. Tendrás algo de sobra a menos que hagas varios boobos con él.
4 cada uno: arandelas, tuercas y tuercas de mariposa para coincidir con los tornillos de retraso. Tuercas para sujetar los pernos y las arandelas y las tuercas de mariposa para presionar los dos lados juntos.

Feliz compras de hardware!

xeno

I know it’s confusing that there are two devices, Tiger Trap (TT) and Tunica Tenderizer (TTr)…I’d say go ahead and ask any questions that you have about constructing either one…

Don’t be shy, I won’t bite :)

xeno