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Just wanted to write a little something about my mental struggles with PE. I’m finding the mental side of PE to be the hardest aspect. Please ignore the pun. With an initial girth gain that surprised me, I find myself expecting more of the same. My fear is that if I don’t meet my expectations I will lose motivation. By realizing this ahead of time, I’m now telling myself not to focus on the measurement. Focus on a healthy cock and the size will naturally follow. In some ways I think that I’m still naturally doubting the process of PE. I must believe in the process.

I’m finding solace in the posting of those who have kept progress logs since the start. This is also motivating me to write some of these thoughts and experiences. Nice to see these guys that started with the same measurements as myself having surpassed what I have set as a goal.
6.5 X 5 seems alright by me.. The key is to draw on my ability to be patient


PE rules!!!

Sept ‘17: 5-3/4” BPEL X 4-1/8” MSEG

Now: 6-1/2” BPEL X 4-1/2” MSEG

Based on what I learned today about JAI stretching I’ll be changing my routine to this.
4 times per week - Depending on PI.

JAI stretches through the day. 20 x bathroom break
- 5 min warm-up
- 10 min stretching (Down, Left, Right, 1 minute hold time)
- 20 min Slow jelq 3-5 seconds
- 3 X 20 JAI stretches (based on the instructions of the creator of the JAI stretch. To do these after jelqing.)
- 5 min warm-down


PE rules!!!

Sept ‘17: 5-3/4” BPEL X 4-1/8” MSEG

Now: 6-1/2” BPEL X 4-1/2” MSEG

Happy to read your having good Results from Manuel PE I’m new to PE myself and have just started out with a bathmate but now thinking about starting noob jelqing routine with stretching and putting up the bathmate for a while seems I have over did it again my sessions consist of a 5 minute warm-up 5 minute stretching and 3sets of 5 minutes full erection in the bathmate then 5 minute warm down. I didn’t feel any pain during the session or immediately after but the following day noticed the right side of my shaft at the very base is tender to the touch if I rub it feels like tiny little Sharp pains like small little tears. Day 2 little Sharp pains continue and I have noticed getting erection it seems to be slightly pointing to the left this is not normal for me as my erection is always at 12 a clock now at 11 seems to be from the damage I did to the right side of the base I’m hoping this effect will go away once the right side if shaft base heals. Erection quality still good on day 2had sex and I definitely felt some discomfort sharp little pains like I have tiny little cuts in my tissue and some discomfort from penis wanting to be at 11 a clock and me having it in a 12 a clock position as my Partner is riding me . Going to take another few days off and let it rest. Then put up bathmate practice manual PE . Well post if and when it heals

Originally Posted by Iron883
Happy to read your having good Results from Manuel PE I’m new to PE myself and have just started out with a bathmate but now thinking about starting noob jelqing routine with stretching and putting up the bathmate for a while seems I have over did it again my sessions consist of a 5 minute warm-up 5 minute stretching and 3sets of 5 minutes full erection in the bathmate then 5 minute warm down. I didn’t feel any pain during the session or immediately after but the following day noticed the right side of my shaft at the very base is tender to the touch if I rub it feels like tiny little Sharp pains like small little tears. Day 2 little Sharp pains continue and I have noticed getting erection it seems to be slightly pointing to the left this is not normal for me as my erection is always at 12 a clock now at 11 seems to be from the damage I did to the right side of the base I’m hoping this effect will go away once the right side if shaft base heals. Erection quality still good on day 2had sex and I definitely felt some discomfort sharp little pains like I have tiny little cuts in my tissue and some discomfort from penis wanting to be at 11 a clock and me having it in a 12 a clock position as my Partner is riding me . Going to take another few days off and let it rest. Then put up bathmate practice manual PE . Well post if and when it heals

I’m also new to PE as of Late august of this year. I’ve been research the shit our of this subject and and came across a couple of helpful books on manual PE. I’ve also been spending a lot of time reading thread on this site. If I were you, I would copy and past what you said here in the injuries section so that you can get a reply from some of the veteran PEers.

To me it sounds like you over done it. A couple of days off will certainly help. Sex probably doesn’t help the healing process.

Good luck.


PE rules!!!

Sept ‘17: 5-3/4” BPEL X 4-1/8” MSEG

Now: 6-1/2” BPEL X 4-1/2” MSEG

Yes good advice thanks on day 3 after a few rubdowns and applying some heat discomfort is almost all gone EQ still great and took another measurement and the 5.0 EG I had gained is still there and noticed even a little thicker at base 5.1 erection seems to be just about back in it’s 12 a clock position I tried to refrain from having sex but wife wasn’t having it and she was very convincing very little to no shape pains this time and I think it’s just about recovered I was getting worried there for a second. I wonder if those little Sharp pains and discomfort is something I can expect every time I have a strong bathmate session and if it’s a sign the tissue was broken down and is rebuilding. I posted in injury form but hasn’t had any recent activity I will post this update in it as well just in case anyone was having a similar issue

Originally Posted by Iron883
I wonder if those little Sharp pains and discomfort is something I can expect every time I have a strong bathmate session and if it’s a sign the tissue was broken down and is rebuilding. I posted in injury form but hasn’t had any recent activity I will post this update in it as well just in case anyone was having a similar issue


Hi Iron883, Not sure that you should be having any pain at all. Keep in mind that I’m only doing manual PE, so I don’t have any experience with pumps. I would say that starting out you shouldn’t be pumping hard enough to any type of pain.
I would search for “pumping pain” and see what results I get. I believe that there is a pumping section at Thundersplace as well. Spend some time reading in there to find the inns and outs of pumping.

Good luck


PE rules!!!

Sept ‘17: 5-3/4” BPEL X 4-1/8” MSEG

Now: 6-1/2” BPEL X 4-1/2” MSEG

Second day of a 3 day brake. The theory behind the 3 days off is following something I’ve read in PEgyms manual to PE. They suggest to keep your body guessing by changing your workout and your reset days. I find that this theory makes a lot of sense.

I also feel that progress is slow, but I’m in the frame of mind that this is okay. I am experiencing gains, so really it’s better than nothing. My impression is that gains will improve once I find the right combination of workout and rest days. Most weeks I’m still trying to get in 4 workouts. Although nothing is written in stone.

For my days off… I’m also doing kegles, forcing an erection every 2 hours and 10 minutes of edging.


PE rules!!!

Sept ‘17: 5-3/4” BPEL X 4-1/8” MSEG

Now: 6-1/2” BPEL X 4-1/2” MSEG

Originally Posted by Fetishd
I’m not sure if it’s so much the routine as it is the little breakthrough I’ve had with my jelq technique. Maybe I can put together some kind of video. The jelq is based on a 70% hard.. When I get to the base gland I stop. Then with my other hand I apply pressure to the base of the penis. This pushes the walls of the penis outward completing one jelq.

Another trick is as I’m jelqing the second hand is pull the penis towards the base. Pulling through the jelqing hand like a rope. I try and full the 3 second rule(sometimes longer) to complete 1 jelq.

Jelqing at 70 to 90% is my only option. At 42, I still get erections like when I was 25.

One day on one day off..

I lost my measuring tape 2 weeks in. Just bought a new one lost night. So I couldn’t believe what it showed.. 1/4” girth increase!! I’m a happy man today. Never thought this was possible.. It’s hard on the head know that I had below average girth.

I have tricks for stretching as well, I’ll Post these at a later date. Have to get back to work.

Well done buddy. I’m starting today. Wish me luck

Originally Posted by Happydad
Well done buddy. I’m starting today. Wish me luck

Good Luck!!!

FYI, Don’t get discouraged if you don’t have results right away. Sometimes it takes time to find what your body responds too. Don’t bother with any aids (extenders / pumps) right away. Learn about PE while you are doing manual exercises. 2 weeks ago, I had a stretch of 3 weeks were I didn’t see any change (seemed like 2 months), but now I’m just about to post a length gain of another 1/8th inch since last Saturday.

Educate yourself with all the credible information you can find. There are a couple of “Bibles for PE” out there. I’ve been able find these in PDF form online. I’m constantly referring back to these to find new tricks and pointers.


PE rules!!!

Sept ‘17: 5-3/4” BPEL X 4-1/8” MSEG

Now: 6-1/2” BPEL X 4-1/2” MSEG

Unplanned length measurement today with shocking results. I’m showing a 1/8” increase in length since last Saturday.


PE rules!!!

Sept ‘17: 5-3/4” BPEL X 4-1/8” MSEG

Now: 6-1/2” BPEL X 4-1/2” MSEG

I’ve come to realize that the most resent gains that I’ve had are not really permanent gains. Meaning that these gains do require maintenance. This was found out during my 3 day rest last week. For the 3rd day of the rest period I decided do “do nothing”. Leaving my dick alone for the whole day. That evening (being proud of my gains) I decided to remeasure. I discovered that this measurement did not reflect my most resent gains. Understanding that I just had a rest day where I didn’t force erections, I quickly realized that I need these forced erections (every 2 hour) to maintain. So the next day I proceeded with my erection schedule, pleased to find that the gains did return.

I’ve put some thought into what’s going on…. My theory is that now that my ligaments are stretched, it allows more of my dick to protrude from my body. Like any other flexibility exercise… I have to develop this flexibility with practice. (erections) In order for this new found flexibility to become permanent, I will need to keep stretching.

Later this week I will post a summary of changed that I’ve experienced with PE during my 9 weeks. Some of these changes are physical and some are mental.


PE rules!!!

Sept ‘17: 5-3/4” BPEL X 4-1/8” MSEG

Now: 6-1/2” BPEL X 4-1/2” MSEG

FYI, I do accredit some of these length gains to JAI stretches. The gains seem to coincide with when I started using these stretches.


PE rules!!!

Sept ‘17: 5-3/4” BPEL X 4-1/8” MSEG

Now: 6-1/2” BPEL X 4-1/2” MSEG

The Length continues

Before I go into this issue too deeply… I just want to talk about how happy I am for my results. Although I’m growing in the wrong direction, I’m still very happy that I’m getting results.

So this issue is that I feel that I’m getting great results in length, but not so good in girth. Girth being what I’ve been initial hoping for. Reflecting back on my routing it is obvious that I am neglecting using girth exercises. The reason for this… Is that I think that basic newbie routines are better for length anyway. Also, I’ve incorporated JAI stretches early on having a period of no length changes and JAI being something that is considered OK for beginners, this is what I did. A few weeks ago I also through in some light bundled stretches thinking that this was an exercise for girth. In the mean time I’m noticing my length still increasing.

Now. after reflecting on what I was doing. With a little research, I learned that Bundled stretches are not for girth. These stretches are for length… So moving forward, I’m thinking of stopping the Bundled stretches and starting some squeezes.

Mentally I am enjoying these length gains and don’t want them too stop, but I thing that I’d be over training if I just threw in some girth exercises on top of what I’m already doing.

So tonight my routine will look something like this…. (2 more weeks until the 3 month mark… a newbie no longer)

JAI stretches through the day. 15 x bathroom break
- 5 min warm-up
- 15 min stretching (Down, Left, Right, and Rotating. 1 minute hold time)
- 25 min Slow jelq 3-5 seconds
- 4 Squeezes (holding for 20 seconds)
- 5 min warm-down

Constructive comments are welcomed…..


PE rules!!!

Sept ‘17: 5-3/4” BPEL X 4-1/8” MSEG

Now: 6-1/2” BPEL X 4-1/2” MSEG

Awesome gains dude. I registered over the summer, but have just officially started 1 week ago (was very busy over the summer). I have similar starting stats as you.. Any advice? What’s worked/what didn’t/what’ve you learned over the past 3 months?

I have the same issue. I seem to increase in length, but have the hardest time gaining any girth. You have pretty close to the same starting stats as me and your routine is very similar to mine. You just spend more time on it than I ever have. If you discover a good girth routine, let me in on it bud. I’m also here to help.

Congrats on your gains and good luck.


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