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2Big is turning over a new Leaf!

Originally Posted by …2BigAlready.
THANKS for “breaking this out” of our other discussion(s)! :D

Very Motivational Stuff, TG.

You KNOW I am going to not be able to refrain from doing some kind of manual jelqs or something on my “days off” and I did find some alternate info in the “Hanging 101” thread, it says B.I.B. recommended hanging daily. So I’d like to make you aware of my thought process, in advance.

Hanging daily has its own issues. Offers better ability to ride the fatigue but…it could damage your PIs. Plus, your age compared to the usual PE Practicioner…and also you have an extensive history. I find that your level of conditioning is what really seems to be your gain barrier. Daily hanging seems like that could be an issue. That’s my thinking on it. Bib is the man but I think his advice was tailored to people who haven’t been into PE as hard the way you have.


Now: 8.875" BPEL x 6.125" MSEG as of 8/12/2016 It's a long story but...

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm 7 years in and counting. Put the work in then the gains will come. All you have to do is keep the faith.

OK, makes sense and is worth giving it a go. :) I was also thinking about those ‘wraps’ and/or sleeves that guys do, to prevent ‘turtling’, which I do suffer from, if I do not have some sort of ADS or other assistance. The supplements kept me from turtling, if nothing else. I had a very big Flaccid Hang almost 90% of the time during the “Peak Years”, around 7” NBP most of the time, varied a little. I’ve also read that turtling is the worst thing a hanger encounters. Makes the ligs heal shorter and stronger, both negative indicators! :(


RESETTING for a REALISTIC GOAL, Does Anyone think 10" BPEL x 7" MSEG is unrealistic? New Routine:2Big is turning over a new Leaf!

OFFICIAL STARTING STATS: app. 8.5"+ BPEL, 6.00" MEG My pix thread: ..2bigalready's pics

My Screen Name is a jab at the guys saying "why do you even want to do PE at all?" :D

Originally Posted by …2BigAlready.
I’ve also read that turtling is the worst thing a hanger encounters. Makes the ligs heal shorter and stronger, both negative indicators! :(

Is this true?

Originally Posted by Ed726
Is this true?

Read Hanging 101 cuz I’m pretty sure that is in there. I’m personally positive that’s true.


Now: 8.875" BPEL x 6.125" MSEG as of 8/12/2016 It's a long story but...

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm 7 years in and counting. Put the work in then the gains will come. All you have to do is keep the faith.

I’m just going to make sure I do not “turtle” one bit! :D

Just trying to find an acceptable way to not slow the growth.


RESETTING for a REALISTIC GOAL, Does Anyone think 10" BPEL x 7" MSEG is unrealistic? New Routine:2Big is turning over a new Leaf!

OFFICIAL STARTING STATS: app. 8.5"+ BPEL, 6.00" MEG My pix thread: ..2bigalready's pics

My Screen Name is a jab at the guys saying "why do you even want to do PE at all?" :D

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold

Read Hanging 101 cuz I’m pretty sure that is in there. I’m personally positive that’s true.

That’s where I got it, and I instinctively practiced anti-turtling measures back in the day. Makes a lot of sense, Ed726!


RESETTING for a REALISTIC GOAL, Does Anyone think 10" BPEL x 7" MSEG is unrealistic? New Routine:2Big is turning over a new Leaf!

OFFICIAL STARTING STATS: app. 8.5"+ BPEL, 6.00" MEG My pix thread: ..2bigalready's pics

My Screen Name is a jab at the guys saying "why do you even want to do PE at all?" :D

I’d like to say to the whole community, feel free to jump in, I am open to input or any commentary. I’ll just check with TG for compatibility first :D This is definitely an open discussion!

To reiterate, I am seeking, in this order:

1. EQ Gains
2. Length Gains, love to get back over 10” BPEL
3. Girth Gains, incidental or intentional ;)


RESETTING for a REALISTIC GOAL, Does Anyone think 10" BPEL x 7" MSEG is unrealistic? New Routine:2Big is turning over a new Leaf!

OFFICIAL STARTING STATS: app. 8.5"+ BPEL, 6.00" MEG My pix thread: ..2bigalready's pics

My Screen Name is a jab at the guys saying "why do you even want to do PE at all?" :D

Originally Posted by …2BigAlready.
I’d like to say to the whole community, feel free to jump in, I am open to input or any commentary. I’ll just check with TG for compatibility first :D This is definitely an open discussion!

To reiterate, I am seeking, in this order:

1. EQ Gains
2. Length Gains, love to get back over 10” BPEL
3. Girth Gains, incidental or intentional ;)

I am nowhere near your size, but I wouldn’t trade my EQ for any larger size. Hopefully these tips help you get some EQ gains like they helped me.

1) Balance between reverse kegels and kegels
Too many kegels results in poor EQ. Reverse kegels help reverse the effects, presumably by stretching the kegel muscle, since kegels only do contractions. Reverse kegels are excellent for bloodflow, at a 70% erection reverse kegeling makes the glans balloon, that’s a sign you’re doing it right.

2) Hydration and diet

Make sure you get enough fats and carbs, healthily. Water is also your best friend, though hydration shouldn’t be mentioned since it is crucial to all aspects of health in everything ever.

3) Exercise
Cardio and weights, yoga, whatever your thing is, all will help EQ.

4) Sleep
Get your 6+ hours of sleep every night, uninterrupted (4 hour nap + 2 hour nighttime is not the same). If you wake up with a burning toaster in your pants, you did it right. If you wake up with a pool noodle in your pants, try to identify the cause (mental or physical) and work to improve it.

5) Make sure your mind is right
If you have thoughts that are in ANY way similar to “I’m not good enough”, toss that shit out of the window, roll over it a few times, and then light it on fire. Know what, thats my new sig.
Those thoughts are self destructive, and only you can eliminate them from the source.

You may or may not have already been doing some of these steps, but hopefully I mentioned some useful information.


If you have a thought in ANY way similar to "I'm not good enough," take that shit, throw it out the window, roll over it a few times, and light it on fire.

Originally Posted by Fornestruct
I am nowhere near your size, but I wouldn’t trade my EQ for any larger size. Hopefully these tips help you get some EQ gains like they helped me.

1) Balance between reverse kegels and kegels
Too many kegels results in poor EQ. Reverse kegels help reverse the effects, presumably by stretching the kegel muscle, since kegels only do contractions. Reverse kegels are excellent for bloodflow, at a 70% erection reverse kegeling makes the glans balloon, that’s a sign you’re doing it right.

2) Hydration and diet

Make sure you get enough fats and carbs, healthily. Water is also your best friend, though hydration shouldn’t be mentioned since it is crucial to all aspects of health in everything ever.

3) Exercise
Cardio and weights, yoga, whatever your thing is, all will help EQ.

4) Sleep
Get your 6+ hours of sleep every night, uninterrupted (4 hour nap + 2 hour nighttime is not the same). If you wake up with a burning toaster in your pants, you did it right. If you wake up with a pool noodle in your pants, try to identify the cause (mental or physical) and work to improve it.

5) Make sure your mind is right
If you have thoughts that are in ANY way similar to “I’m not good enough”, toss that shit out of the window, roll over it a few times, and then light it on fire. Know what, thats my new sig.
Those thoughts are self destructive, and only you can eliminate them from the source.

You may or may not have already been doing some of these steps, but hopefully I mentioned some useful information.

Never hurts to REVIEW!

#1, I have been thinking about, great advice! Seems I get more out of the Kegel by doing the reverse after several reps. Glans Ballooning? KEWL! :D

2 & 3, constant battle, but re-centering my thoughts that it will help my PE is a real help. BALANCE in All Things!

4. I do best at 6 hrs but should schedule 7 so I can make sure to get 6! It’s a struggle.

5. Positive Thinking is always a Big Plus! :D

Thanks Fornestruct, I’m sure that will be a big help!

PS: I do not have “Bad EQ” but I’d like the ability to get an erection at will, and keep one going until I’m ready for it to go down. I do pretty well as-is, but on an absolute scale of 1 to 10, I’d say I am at a 6.0 level. Plenty of room for improvement!


RESETTING for a REALISTIC GOAL, Does Anyone think 10" BPEL x 7" MSEG is unrealistic? New Routine:2Big is turning over a new Leaf!

OFFICIAL STARTING STATS: app. 8.5"+ BPEL, 6.00" MEG My pix thread: ..2bigalready's pics

My Screen Name is a jab at the guys saying "why do you even want to do PE at all?" :D


Last edited by ...2BigAlready. : 11-28-2016 at . Reason: added current EQ comments

Hey TG! :D

Am I possibly over-training? My EQ drops off for about 24 hours and then snaps back. I am pumping every other day. I’m fine with that, if it is normal, that is! Might have to change it up a bit?


RESETTING for a REALISTIC GOAL, Does Anyone think 10" BPEL x 7" MSEG is unrealistic? New Routine:2Big is turning over a new Leaf!

OFFICIAL STARTING STATS: app. 8.5"+ BPEL, 6.00" MEG My pix thread: ..2bigalready's pics

My Screen Name is a jab at the guys saying "why do you even want to do PE at all?" :D

Originally Posted by …2BigAlready.
OK, makes sense and is worth giving it a go. :) I was also thinking about those ‘wraps’ and/or sleeves that guys do, to prevent ‘turtling’, which I do suffer from, if I do not have some sort of ADS or other assistance. The supplements kept me from turtling, if nothing else. I had a very big Flaccid Hang almost 90% of the time during the “Peak Years”, around 7” NBP most of the time, varied a little. I’ve also read that turtling is the worst thing a hanger encounters. Makes the ligs heal shorter and stronger, both negative indicators! :(

I use the AutoXSleeves and they do help with turtling. I have been wearing mine quite regularly lately and my penis doesn’t turtle as much any more at all, even while working out.

What supplements were you taking to get a better flaccid hang?

I worked on EQ for a few months and about to start back with some extender work and pumping for length. I’d love to increase my flaccid hang as well.


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" EG; Current: 7.8" (19.5 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.3" EG; Gains: 1.05" (2.625 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.3" EG

Short-term goal: 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 5.5" EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

Originally Posted by xtendeddick
I use the AutoXSleeves and they do help with turtling. I have been wearing mine quite regularly lately and my penis doesn’t turtle as much any more at all, even while working out.

What supplements were you taking to get a better flaccid hang?

I worked on EQ for a few months and about to start back with some extender work and pumping for length. I’d love to increase my flaccid hang as well.

Hi X.D.D!!!
First, a question for YOU… What are you doing for EQ? I am wanting to do that on my “off days” as long as it does not interrupt progress… And how well is it working?
My EQ is about a 6 on a 10 scale, just with manual self-stimulation. Had a chick playing with it, kinda cold, but it was a bit more firm. 7 tops. Had it been a warmer environment and better stimulation, I could see an 8/10 maybe.

I used Extenze, it really seems to help a flaccid hang, and erect size somewhat. Take any and all supplements with grapefruit juice, that seems to help absorb the critical elements. Zyrexin is a good one, but it’s more like a pre-Sex tablet. Maybe not for daily use. I also used to use Libido Max daily. It’s even quite inexpensive! $18 for a 75 count bottle. Most of these also help refractory time and size of ejaculated load. also.


RESETTING for a REALISTIC GOAL, Does Anyone think 10" BPEL x 7" MSEG is unrealistic? New Routine:2Big is turning over a new Leaf!

OFFICIAL STARTING STATS: app. 8.5"+ BPEL, 6.00" MEG My pix thread: ..2bigalready's pics

My Screen Name is a jab at the guys saying "why do you even want to do PE at all?" :D

Originally Posted by …2BigAlready.
Hey TG! :D

Am I possibly over-training? My EQ drops off for about 24 hours and then snaps back. I am pumping every other day. I’m fine with that, if it is normal, that is! Might have to change it up a bit?

I didn’t catch this when you posted it originally. Been tied up, lady friend. *chuckles*

I’d say not only that but to analyze your lifestyle. You said long hours and also spoke on an All Night Stretcher and Power Jelq use on off days. I’m unsure how much of that you’re doing but pumping shouldn’t give you a drop off unless you’re running too long or too hard a pressure if you aren’t doing anything else.


Now: 8.875" BPEL x 6.125" MSEG as of 8/12/2016 It's a long story but...

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm 7 years in and counting. Put the work in then the gains will come. All you have to do is keep the faith.

Originally Posted by …2BigAlready.
Hi X.D.D!!!
First, a question for YOU… What are you doing for EQ? I am wanting to do that on my “off days” as long as it does not interrupt progress… And how well is it working?
My EQ is about a 6 on a 10 scale, just with manual self-stimulation. Had a chick playing with it, kinda cold, but it was a bit more firm. 7 tops. Had it been a warmer environment and better stimulation, I could see an 8/10 maybe.

I used Extenze, it really seems to help a flaccid hang, and erect size somewhat. Take any and all supplements with grapefruit juice, that seems to help absorb the critical elements.

EQ was my focus when I started back at PE again in September/October. Like you, my EQ was about a 7 and I wasn’t have spontaneous erections during the day. Mainly, I’ve been jelqing and edging and I wear my AutoXSleeve as much as possible.

Jelqing seems to help, but I noticed better results from edging for at least 20 minutes. I noticed even better EQ when I would edge for at least 20 minutes and not ejaculate. I’ve noticed that limiting the amount of times I ejaculate has significantly enhanced my EQ and spontaneous erections throughout the day. So now, I try to only cum when I’m getting some action. Now I would say that I’m at a consistent 9 with every erection I getting these days and definitely a 10 every morning I wake up.

Lastly, regarding wearing the XSleeve. At first it may seem like it is hindering spontaneous erections during the day until you don’t put it on first thing in the morning, but after lunch. Then you notice it’a just training your unit to have a longer flaccid hang and to heal in the extended state (once I start back at serious PE). I’ve also noticed a slight but consistent better hanging flaccid unit that is even thicker.

Thanks for the info about the Extenze. I have tried those before but they give me a headache for some reason. Regarding the grapefruit juice, I’m going to keep that in mind for the other supplements I take.


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" EG; Current: 7.8" (19.5 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.3" EG; Gains: 1.05" (2.625 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.3" EG

Short-term goal: 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 5.5" EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

X.D.D., thanks for the Auto-Sleeve info!
It looks to be a very gentle method and device, I’m just wondering what TG thinks of it. He has tried nearly everything :D Sounds pretty good!

Grapefruit Juice has an enzyme that blocks stomach acid from destroying Viagra and Cialis, and IMO, many other supplements that one can take. It is proven by medical science for the Viagra type pills.


RESETTING for a REALISTIC GOAL, Does Anyone think 10" BPEL x 7" MSEG is unrealistic? New Routine:2Big is turning over a new Leaf!

OFFICIAL STARTING STATS: app. 8.5"+ BPEL, 6.00" MEG My pix thread: ..2bigalready's pics

My Screen Name is a jab at the guys saying "why do you even want to do PE at all?" :D

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