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Originally Posted by Zazu
Sorry, I did not know “bullshit” is not acceptable word, my apologies. But do you really think someone could get 0.75inch both in erect girth and erect lenght in 22 days? That would go to quinness world records. But anyways, I was a member of big penis forum and then name sceptical1 also joined there to tell he’s experience with bathmate. First few days that he posted sounded sincere, but then he claimed he got about 0.5inch girth in 4 days if I remember right. Then he claimed getting huge lenght gains pretty much after that. Every pumper knows that ain’t gonna happen, not that fast. Almost forgot to add, big penis forum linked bathmate pretty much after that so everyone can visit the website or buy it etc.. And to sceptical, yes I have had gains, but those came with andropenis stretcher and jelqing.

My last comment to this…. why do you keep exaggerating what I said? Please read the posts. I admit they are fantastic and obviously for you, hard to believe, but that doesn’t make them untrue.

Also, why do you say I am “sucking” hangers?? because I found something I believe works great for me?

You’ll probably be delighted to know that my intensity has actually put me on the sidelines. I now have lymph vessel thrombosis… but you probably think I’m making that up too.

I was going very, very hard at this PE, probably a lot harder than most and actually dangerously hard,,,which is why I ended up hurt.

So maybe you can find some comfort in the fact that I am hurt and cannot make any gains.

Thank you Sparyx for bringing rationality to the forum. It is a sure sign of prejudice when someone makes derogatory statements and never asks a single question. People that ask questions, are seeking truth, people that just put others down aren’t interested in the truth, they just want to make what they believe reality, that is also a definition of insane.

There is vein thrombosis, which is painful…and there is lymphatic vessel “clogging”, which isn’t really painful, but it does feel sore.

If what you have is lymphatic clogging, I recommend put the Bathmate back on at a low vacuum with nice warm to hot water for a few minutes at a time. Take it off and “strip” the lymph vessels ( which will look like thin worms under the skin) them down toward the base of the penis as far as you can.

By “stripping” I mean use the pad of your finger with firm pressure and try and flush the congestion downward (toward your belly). The further down you get, the larger the vessel gets, until it hits a point where its big enough to drain the excess fluid.

I am prone to this so I have to be very careful about building up edema in the tissues from too high a vacuum level or too long a session or combination of both.

When I do get a bit, I find if I strip it downward right away, I can drain it successfully.

The first time I had it, I didn’t know what was going on or how to treat it, so it lasted a couple weeks until I started to do what I wrote above, and that fixed it.

It happens when you accumulate too much edema in the tissue and the lymph channels attempt to drain it, and somehow it overloads the vessels and they clog up and all of a sudden you have these worm like vessels and or bumps (at the lymph valves) under your skin.

Try what I said, that’s if they aren’t painful (don’t want to strip a vein thrombosis, see a MD if that’s what it is), and you should be able to get improvement.

In the future, don’t use so much vacuum force. Slow and steady is best in PE.

Originally Posted by skepticalOne
Thank you Sparyx for bringing rationality to the forum. It is a sure sign of prejudice when someone makes derogatory statements and never asks a single question. People that ask questions, are seeking truth, people that just put others down aren’t interested in the truth, they just want to make what they believe reality, that is also a definition of insane.

I think Zazu meant well, that his intent was to protect the readers here. Many people when hearing of something outside of their personal experience, tend to not believe its possible. Many times they are right, which reinforces that stance.

The problem comes in when the report, albeit rare, is ACCURATE and you miss the opportunity to learn.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
There is vein thrombosis, which is painful…and there is lymphatic vessel “clogging”, which isn’t really painful, but it does feel sore.


My only fear is I am not 100% sure which it is. In that they do not hurt at all unless I rub on them or if I have an erection and press on them, then they hurt.

Let me ask you another question…

Since I’ve been examining my penis very closely now, I noticed that I actually have what seem like tendon that run from the base (just back out of view) about an inch of the shaft basically all around the top of my penis (maybe like 6 of them (not the same as my lymph things, these are very hard and seem very strong and don’t really hurt when you push on them) they run along the top and sides of my corpus cavernosa on both sides.

In every diagram I’ve looked at, I do not see tendons there, yet it appears to me like i have pulled the suspensory ligament about 1/2 inch out from my pelvis (it looks just like the pictures of what it should look like) and I was wondering of maybe hanging causes tendons to shoot out like roots??

Having said all that I am afraid to put any pressure on the bathmate for fear of making it worse…. How did you know you didn’t have thrombosis of the veins… The only thing I know is that my veins seem to have color and these do not. Believe me I want to try it, I want to be rid of these, but I also don’t want to make it worse.

What was your experience emotionally before you actually went for it? Also, what is low pressure (if I can go to 160 -170 mm when maxing pressure out, does that mean only going to say 130mm?) Do you remember your max and then what you called low pressure (I could do the math and do the same percent adjustment).

Sparkyx,

How many times do you usually have to strip the vessels before they are clear? and when you say a few minutes ( Do you mean from 2-4 minutes or more like 1-2 minutes)?

Well, I didn’t know when you would be answering so I went ahead and tried it… All I seemed to do was irritate it. I only worked on the main one that is like a piece of rice under my skin. I even tried reverse jelqing in the shower… nothing works for me except time I guess.

Screwed up yesterday by trying to use an erection correction vac (EAD) with water in the cylinder. Pumped it up to 7.5 inches. Started out just like with BATHMATE in 5 minute increments up to 20 minutes with no problem getting there. All was fine until I released pressure and saw my penis was black and blue. That never happened with the BATHMATE to that degree although it has remained somewhat discolored from about the tip down 3/4 with a lilly white ring the bottom 1/4.

No pain or any uncomfortable pressure while pumping but after was horrible. What did I do wrong?

Originally Posted by Ganixle

Screwed up yesterday by trying to use an erection correction vac (EAD) with water in the cylinder. Pumped it up to 7.5 inches. Started out just like with BATHMATE in 5 minute increments up to 20 minutes with no problem getting there. All was fine until I released pressure and saw my penis was black and blue. That never happened with the BATHMATE to that degree although it has remained somewhat discolored from about the tip down 3/4 with a lilly white ring the bottom 1/4.

No pain or any uncomfortable pressure while pumping but after was horrible. What did I do wrong?

Sounds like vacuum was too high.

Originally Posted by skepticalOne
Well, I didn’t know when you would be answering so I went ahead and tried it… All I seemed to do was irritate it. I only worked on the main one that is like a piece of rice under my skin. I even tried reverse jelqing in the shower… nothing works for me except time I guess.

Sorry didn’t get back sooner, I was busy all weekend.

It sounds to me like lymph vessels, but I really can’t be sure without seeing it, and even then…

As far as vacuum, I used air pump and took it up to about 2-3 in hg. So for the Bathmate, I would just use a little bit of pull.

However, rather than guess, why don’t you have it looked at by a professional? If its a thrombosed vein it can be serious. I doubt it is, but why take a risk? Just go to a good urologist and come clean and tell him what happened and tell him you just want to make sure its lymphatic vessels and not veins. He should be able to do that easily.

If for sure its lymphatics, ask him his recommendations. If he doesn’t have any, I would go back to hot water (within limits) a light vacuum and start with GENTLE downward massage. It might be so clogged at this point that its not responding to heavier pressure. So, I would just spend a few minutes daily getting it warmed up, some gentle vacuum and massage it downward.

If that causes irritation, then I would leave it alone and hope it heals with time.

Now that I know what it is, I nail it right away with really firm pressure. But if I get it the minute it happens, it may be completely different than if its been there for a couple weeks. I don’t know what processes start to set in that that point.

Listen, just suck it up and go see a Urologist and just let him know what you did. Then come back and update us.

I know it’s not a thrombosed vein….. I can see all the veins clearly and feel pulse on them on these things there is no pulse (not in front or behind the clot)… But they are not hurting as much now (1 week later) I even had sex with my wife (though I was very gentle with it)… So I think I’ll just let time do it’s thing…

Here’s an interesting piece of information… once I had to get an MRI where they shoot a dye in your viens and they screwed up and gave me a contaminated dye and I got phlebitis in my vien (they stuck me in my hand and so the next day the vein they stuck, all the way from my hand to my elbow (wrapping around my arm) was red. It looked like someone traced my vein with a red magic marker… Also, I got clots in my veins and they felt exactly the same, and they also didn’t hurt, but they resolved in about 2 months. The only long term effect was that those viens are just no more. I used to have matching veins on both sides in my hands and on my forearms, now the right side is missing that specific vein.

So no matter what it is, I’m sure it will resolve in several weeks if not earlier…I would say that a warm bath has been the most helpful, so I guess I’ll take another one today, I;ll make it a bit hotter than usual.

Also, as I mentioned, I don’t have any loss of function in my penis, still goes up and down with my libido. :-)

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