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Bathmate Users — how do you manage pressure? pg 7 post 97

I just put this valve in line of the hose and use my regular cyclinder. You will draw the vacuum by mouth, and its just the cylinder and hose and this valve, you won’t have a pump or gauge.

You draw the vacuum you want, then close off the valve. Works great! I find the best way to control vacuum levels are to use air and your pump and draw whatever vacuum level you normally use, then make a mark on the cylinder at the tip of your penis (bright red nail polish is best!).

Then use your hose with the valve attached (Home depot or Lowes) and close off the valve and fill it with hot water but not too hot…you’ll know when you try and put your dick it! :) Press your dick in and push the cylinder hard against your belly with one hand, with the other hand open the valve and suck on the end of the tube (the hose obviously has to be long enough to reach your mouth). You will have to open, draw and close it several time until you draw enough vacuum to pull your penis to the mark you made.

That is your starting point, with time you may want to draw it more or less, but start there. With time, each week try drawing your penis a bit past the previous mark, but always keep the level of vacuum “comfort” that you found works best.

When I pull MLUV or (max length under vacuum), its as hard as I can pull and no more water will come out. I find this gives me red spots and lots of edema. I am now using it at a LUV (length under vacuum) that is about an inch less than my MLUV, and about a quarter inch less than my bpel.

I think that taking it to bpel is not a bad place to start, but you may find you want to let it drop back a bit, or you may want to pull it slightly past.

One note, if you take it to bpel, its really like taking it 1/4 inch past it,because of the girth stretch, but its a reasonable place to start.

That’s pretty much what I do with my bathmate too. When I have the rubber thing fully compressed I reach a hair over 190 mm but that is just too painful for me so I normally back it down to between 165 and about 175 mm. Which is comfortable and I can sit back and relax for about 20 min with a short break in the middle.

When I come out of the bathmate I put on a tight but comfortable cock ring to keep a big and full flaccid for a few hours.

“I think that taking it to bpel is not a bad place to start, but you may find you want to let it drop back a bit, or you may want to pull it slightly past.

One note, if you take it to bpel, its really like taking it 1/4 inch past it,because of the girth stretch, but its a reasonable place to start.”
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Boy if that isn’t ever true! I’ve had to learn that the hard way (lost of doughnut dong, red spots, brusing…etc)

After reading Congo, maybe I’m not dropping down low enough! I can hit about 172-175mm on the bathmate markings… but I only go down to about 160mm by the 15 minute mark of a 20 min session….maybe I should be going only up to 150 mm by the end.

Originally Posted by skepticalOne
Ha ha ha ha hahah flaming?? Isn’t flaming when you say bad things??

The only other forum I belong to is Big-penis.com and all I can say is I am super pleased with the bathmate. I am also a very enthusiastic person (read all my threads).. And a guy at the other furm named BiggerBone told me the same thing, that I was a bathmate sales person.. Well, when you are excited about something, you can’t hold it in.. I just want to share my joy..

Also, like I told him, I am not now, nor have I ever been , nor do I plan to ever be affiilated with bathmate in anyway.

I bet Zazu has never actually tried the bathmate..

Now for the record.. I do not believe bathmate is anywhere near as good as hanging. But I didn’t find hanging until after I got my bathmate and I did get great results so .now I just do bathmate twice a day for 20 minutes and I don’t go to max pressure anymore (since I go twice a day).

But for that first month, I just did once a day for 20 minutes per day.

I’m 45 yrs old, and as I posted on the other forum and this one, I think much of my gain initially was as Bib put it, lost length.

Well anyone who says gaining 0.75 inch in erect girth and erect lenght in 22 days only with bathmate is big bullshit. Yes I have bathmate, but I only bought it to get better erections since I use finasterid. It does give better erections and I agree that it could increase your girth in 2 months that much, but trying to claim it increases lenght that much is bit different story. These kinda guys should get banned for misleading people. There’s lotsa people in Big Penis wondering why their bathmate ain’t working and your does so perfectly. Some people does really believe what other people write. But beware, this guy he’s a salesman.

PS: I said flaming because I thought it meaned advertising. I have terrible english skills, I know.

Zazu, it was 34 days and it is real. I’m sorry if you feel less than adequate because of your inability to get gains. It isn’t my fault you’re not gaining..maybe you don’t do it as intense as I did, or maybe your genetics are different, but whatever, you are free to post your bs allegations as well. and it was only .5” in EG from bathmate,, .75” BPEL.

Hi skepticalOne.Awesome gains so far,I must say.I would like to know however,since you now are doing hanging and ADS as well,do you think that by pumping,this will affect hanging results negatively or positively?When do you use your bathmate,and when do you do the hanging?Thank you.

Originally Posted by Zazu
Well anyone who says gaining 0.75 inch in erect girth and erect lenght in 22 days only with bathmate is big bullshit.



Zazu, I’m stepping in here in my Moderator capacity, please listen.

We have an exceptional site here at Thunders, agreed? Part of what makes it so good is that we maintain a degree of civility that allows a really nice exchange of ideas and experience.

Calling someone’s statements “bullshit” is unacceptable. If you have doubt’s please state your reasons in a civilized fashion and let him respond in a civilized fashion.

Trust me, the Mod’s here are VERY quick to get rid of someone that they believe is dangerous or full of crap, so this is not something you need to worry about.

Please feel free to continue your discussion, but take it to the level of respect you yourself wish to be treated with.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
Zazu, I’m stepping in here in my Moderator capacity, please listen.

We have an exceptional site here at Thunders, agreed? Part of what makes it so good is that we maintain a degree of civility that allows a really nice exchange of ideas and experience.

Calling someone’s statements “bullshit” is unacceptable. If you have doubt’s please state your reasons in a civilized fashion and let him respond in a civilized fashion.

Trust me, the Mod’s here are VERY quick to get rid of someone that they believe is dangerous or full of crap, so this is not something you need to worry about.

Please feel free to continue your discussion, but take it to the level of respect you yourself wish to be treated with.

Thanks.

Sorry, I did not know “bullshit” is not acceptable word, my apologies. But do you really think someone could get 0.75inch both in erect girth and erect lenght in 22 days? That would go to quinness world records. But anyways, I was a member of big penis forum and then name sceptical1 also joined there to tell he’s experience with bathmate. First few days that he posted sounded sincere, but then he claimed he got about 0.5inch girth in 4 days if I remember right. Then he claimed getting huge lenght gains pretty much after that. Every pumper knows that ain’t gonna happen, not that fast. Almost forgot to add, big penis forum linked bathmate pretty much after that so everyone can visit the website or buy it etc.. And to sceptical, yes I have had gains, but those came with andropenis stretcher and jelqing.

Originally Posted by skepticalOne
Ha ha ha ha hahah flaming?? Isn’t flaming when you say bad things??

The only other forum I belong to is Big-penis.com and all I can say is I am super pleased with the bathmate. I am also a very enthusiastic person (read all my threads).. And a guy at the other furm named BiggerBone told me the same thing, that I was a bathmate sales person.. Well, when you are excited about something, you can’t hold it in.. I just want to share my joy..

Also, like I told him, I am not now, nor have I ever been , nor do I plan to ever be affiilated with bathmate in anyway.

I bet Zazu has never actually tried the bathmate..

Now for the record.. I do not believe bathmate is anywhere near as good as hanging. But I didn’t find hanging until after I got my bathmate and I did get great results so .now I just do bathmate twice a day for 20 minutes and I don’t go to max pressure anymore (since I go twice a day).

But for that first month, I just did once a day for 20 minutes per day.

I’m 45 yrs old, and as I posted on the other forum and this one, I think much of my gain initially was as Bib put it, lost length.

I thought I posted this few days ago but I quess it didn’t send it. And why do you not believe bathmate ain’t as good as hanging?? If you get so awesome results with bathmate you would not add hanging to your routine. Or do you think you get full inch girth and lenght in less than a month with hanging? You just wanna “suck” hangers because people really like it here. Here is lots of new people who would buy that awesome pump. I just don’t like salespeople in places where they should not be. Well anyways, I just wanted to warn you guys, won’t be posting this stuff again.


Last edited by Zazu : 09-05-2009 at .

Originally Posted by Zazu
Sorry, I did not know “bullshit” is not acceptable word, my apologies. But do you really think someone could get 0.75inch both in erect girth and erect lenght in 22 days? That would go to quinness world records. But anyways, I was a member of big penis forum and then name sceptical1 also joined there to tell he’s experience with bathmate. First few days that he posted sounded sincere, but then he claimed he got about 0.5inch girth in 4 days if I remember right. Then he claimed getting huge lenght gains pretty much after that. Every pumper knows that ain’t gonna happen, not that fast. Almost forgot to add, big penis forum linked bathmate pretty much after that so everyone can visit the website or buy it etc.. And to sceptical, yes I have had gains, but those came with andropenis stretcher and jelqing.

Bullshit is a lovely word, just using it to dispute a person’s claim is aggressive and disrespectful.

The problem with immediately discounting the improbable is sometimes the improbable ACTUALLY OCCURRED! If you always dismiss the unlikely, you may miss a very important technique that could allow you to make greater than normal gains.

I remember I had struggled for years to increase my bench press. Then one week I was experimenting with some really weird approach, and in the space of a week I went from not being able to break 200 lbs, to hitting 295!!! I couldn’t believe it!

At that point I figured, this is easy to get stronger, so I put it aside for about 6 months. By the time I went back to duplicate it, I couldn’t remember exactly what I had done…and never was able to duplicate it.

After that, however, I realized that the ability to gain strength was far faster and greater than most people suspect.

Here at Thunders, I am tolerant of anyone’s claims until it becomes obvious that they aren’t truthful or accurate. I don’t feel we are any where near that point.

Ask questions if you are skeptical, then judge for yourself. If you wish to call someone on a claim that you find difficult to believe, I just ask that you show the same respect you yourself would like if you had an exceptional outcome to report.

Thanks for your understanding.

51 years old and pumping with bathmate now 4 months. Just tried it with a condom on today and got an extra 10 mm on the tube the first 5 minutes. Normally it takes the whole session to reach 190mm but today it was over that in the first 5 minutes. In the past 4 months my penis went from just under 6 inches erect to slightly over 7 inches now and much thicker. Well at least thick enough that my wife of 29 years is going out of her mind when I ply the ole boy to it’s appointed trade. I’ve never heard such language in real life.

I start of by massaging my penis until it acts like it wants to get erect, sit in the tub full of hot bathwater and with the bathmate full push it on with one hand and pull my testicle out of the way with the other and start pumping til max pressure is reached, normally 2-3 pushes with one hand. I have to hold my one testicle out of the way at first or it will get pulled into the cylinder and that hurts. While sitting in the tub, I am a multi-tasker so I shave my head and face just to pass the time and after 5 minutes pump again, now with both hands to pull all the slack out. This continues each 5 minutes up to the 15 minute mark and then at 18 minutes I go for another max pump and leave it until the 20 minute mark. At 20 minutes I grasp the cylinder and pull it straight up, just like I’m trying to pull the cylinder off without releasing the pressure 10-12 times while kegeling hard. Release pressure to about half length in the cylinder and again pull up 20 times while kegeling hard. Release the final time until a hard pull almost causes a break in the seal and in fact you might have to push to expel some of the air just to keep the seal and this time I go for 30-40 hard pulls while kegeling. I didn’t start this pull up thing until just recently so I wouldn’t recommend it to someone just starting out.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
Bullshit is a lovely word, just using it to dispute a person’s claim is aggressive and disrespectful.

The problem with immediately discounting the improbable is sometimes the improbable ACTUALLY OCCURRED! If you always dismiss the unlikely, you may miss a very important technique that could allow you to make greater than normal gains.

Excellent post.

Originally Posted by Ganixle
51 years old and pumping with bathmate now 4 months. Just tried it with a condom on today and got an extra 10 mm on the tube the first 5 minutes. Normally it takes the whole session to reach 190mm but today it was over that in the first 5 minutes. In the past 4 months my penis went from just under 6 inches erect to slightly over 7 inches now and much thicker. Well at least thick enough that my wife of 29 years is going out of her mind when I ply the ole boy to it’s appointed trade. I’ve never heard such language in real life.

I start of by massaging my penis until it acts like it wants to get erect, sit in the tub full of hot bathwater and with the bathmate full push it on with one hand and pull my testicle out of the way with the other and start pumping til max pressure is reached, normally 2-3 pushes with one hand. I have to hold my one testicle out of the way at first or it will get pulled into the cylinder and that hurts. While sitting in the tub, I am a multi-tasker so I shave my head and face just to pass the time and after 5 minutes pump again, now with both hands to pull all the slack out. This continues each 5 minutes up to the 15 minute mark and then at 18 minutes I go for another max pump and leave it until the 20 minute mark. At 20 minutes I grasp the cylinder and pull it straight up, just like I’m trying to pull the cylinder off without releasing the pressure 10-12 times while kegeling hard. Release pressure to about half length in the cylinder and again pull up 20 times while kegeling hard. Release the final time until a hard pull almost causes a break in the seal and in fact you might have to push to expel some of the air just to keep the seal and this time I go for 30-40 hard pulls while kegeling. I didn’t start this pull up thing until just recently so I wouldn’t recommend it to someone just starting out.

Do you do this daily? Any days or time off? So you gained 1 inch length in four months, about how much girth?

Thanks.

One inch in 4 months yes but my weenie had shrunk from lack of testosterone as the one remaining testicle was damaged from chemo and radiation. It was once a proud unit and the 4 months has brought it back and increased the size over what it was as a youth by about 1/4 inch. Thickness is noticeable when I grab it and my wife really likes the new toy. I plan to start jelqing again as soon as I come off of a weight loss protocol I am on that prohibits fats or oils in food or on skin. I just started clamping as well. So far only a day off maybe every two weeks when I’m just too tired or busy to pump. On those days I usually try to stretch and do some dry jelqs and even a clamping session.

Thanks!

Please let me know if the pulls are productive. Sometimes when you push it too far, you actually slow progress, so I am interested to see if adding the pulls are helpful or not.

I have been making my best progress by increasing my max LUV (length under vacuum) by about 1/8th inch each week. This seems to be just enough to stimulate gains but not so much as to stimulate rebound contraction. However, its really too early in this experiment to claim victory yet.

If it continues, I will experiment with cycling it with periodic decons and see what happens. It it turns out to be good, I will post it in a thread.

I don’t like to post anymore until I’ve worked all the bugs out and can definitely say it works. I’ve had too many failed experiments and its taken all the fun out of premature celebrations! ;)

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