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Water Pumping: Alternating Hot & Cold

Originally Posted by Renholder
I am adding a morning session to my routine, one set of hanging before I put on golf weights for the rest of the day. Perhaps I should consider adding a set of water pumping instead?

Have you noticed any gains this far? I may have misread, but did you not write in your progress report that you lost some length?

The problem I had in combining pumping with hanging was the lymph build up (even if its slight). This seemed to be even worse when using golf weights - the lymph build up would increase for the duration of the ADS until it got painful. Adding heat, you’ll have even more lymph to deal with (although water pumping obviously reduces this in the first place).

When I stopped WP’ing for a while, about two months ago, some of the temporary “pumping gains” left. This wasn’t lymph fluid, it was just the post pump penis. I went from what I assume to be 6.75 to around 7.3, then lost .2 to keep me at a steady non-pumped 7.1. Now I am at around 7.4, possibly 7.5.

There is no question to me, right now, that the addition of the heating method here has added to the quick recapturing of the length gains and surpassing them. I also believe the use of hot and cold for recovery has been tremendously helpful in moderating the fatigue I’m carrying. I’ve mastered water pumping (the stimulus itself) now, I think. The next step is to master the recovery and application of the stimulus in terms of fatigue.

I’m still not taking enough OLR (rest) days in my mini-cycles. Water pumping is just so fun.

Originally Posted by LongVehicle
The problem I had in combining pumping with hanging was the lymph build up (even if its slight). This seemed to be even worse when using golf weights - the lymph build up would increase for the duration of the ADS until it got painful. Adding heat, you’ll have even more lymph to deal with (although water pumping obviously reduces this in the first place).

When I stopped WP’ing for a while, about two months ago, some of the temporary “pumping gains” left. This wasn’t lymph fluid, it was just the post pump penis. I went from what I assume to be 6.75 to around 7.3, then lost .2 to keep me at a steady non-pumped 7.1. Now I am at around 7.4, possibly 7.5.

There is no question to me, right now, that the addition of the heating method here has added to the quick recapturing of the length gains and surpassing them. I also believe the use of hot and cold for recovery has been tremendously helpful in moderating the fatigue I’m carrying. I’ve mastered water pumping (the stimulus itself) now, I think. The next step is to master the recovery and application of the stimulus in terms of fatigue.

I’m still not taking enough OLR (rest) days in my mini-cycles. Water pumping is just so fun.

Interesting and promising.

Lymph build up is definitely the biggest concern with combining the two.

I hope you let us know about your progress. I`m excited about this as well. A good tool for my toolbox when I`m tired of hanging in 6 months:)

Best regards,

Renholder

Originally Posted by djrobins
dtwarren1942,

Do you know what caused you to need viagra?


I was diagnosed with diabetes in 1993 and my erection quality has gone down hill ever since. I started using 25mg of Viagra 10 years ago and worked up to 100mg last year. Since starting PE 4 months ago I can sometimes now get by on 50mg.

Originally Posted by LongVehicle
packing creates friction that makes length gains harder than ALMOST packing (the perfect thing for length is almost packing), and packing discourages (read: halts) girth gains. If you are packing, move up cylinder sizes.

Another reason to get a larger cylinder :D .
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If I am packing 3/4 of the way up my shaft, am I packing or am I almost packing? Do I need to order a new cylinder now or should I to wait until I pack all the way up to the glans?

Originally Posted by dtwarren1942
If I am packing 3/4 of the way up my shaft, am I packing or am I almost packing? Do I need to order a new cylinder now or should I to wait until I pack all the way up to the glans?

I ignored the question because it did not make sense to me. My whole point was that “packing” is a useless endeavor. You don’t have to wait for anything, and you don’t have to buy another cylinder either. Do what makes sense. I explained why I believe packing should not be done.

I did a couple of WP’ing sessions by now and can confirm what has been described by LV. After hot water sessions I see some excessive lymph build up which then reduces slightly after an ice cold pump. Now the penis looks well engorged and has a healthy pinkish color. I put in a warm wrap afterwards also.

Interesstingly, I am able to expand even further with cold water than with hot water. I am 18,5 cm bp. That is about as far as I can expand with hot water. In the following cold water session I easily reach 19 to 19,5 cm without getting the feeling the pressure might be too high.

LV, you wrote that you tape your mushroom area where the lymph build up is most prominent. Can you tell how you do that?

Thanks and yeah, I agree, WP’ing is just so much fun.


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So, anything new here guys? :)

I`m currently hanging 4-5 sets per day and I miss the comfort of water pumping.

Although I don`t plan on quitting hanging, I might switch to water pumping in a few months.

Originally Posted by caldera
I did a couple of WP’ing sessions by now and can confirm what has been described by LV. After hot water sessions I see some excessive lymph build up which then reduces slightly after an ice cold pump. Now the penis looks well engorged and has a healthy pinkish color. I put in a warm wrap afterwards also.

Interesstingly, I am able to expand even further with cold water than with hot water. I am 18,5 cm bp. That is about as far as I can expand with hot water. In the following cold water session I easily reach 19 to 19,5 cm without getting the feeling the pressure might be too high.

LV, you wrote that you tape your mushroom area where the lymph build up is most prominent. Can you tell how you do that?

Thanks and yeah, I agree, WP’ing is just so much fun.

Sorry for replying so late, caldera. I didn’t see the thread recently.

1. I think cold water may be more affective in increasing in-tube length is because it does not allow the penis to expand girth-wise due to inflammation and lymph build up as much as hot water, so the vacuum is satisfied easier with length than girth.

2. This is my newest pumping technique.

Originally Posted by Renholder
So, anything new here guys? :)

I`m currently hanging 4-5 sets per day and I miss the comfort of water pumping.

Although I don`t plan on quitting hanging, I might switch to water pumping in a few months.

Ah, hanging is a bitch compared to water pumping. I agree.

So whats new?

1. I have developed the practice of ALWAYS wrapping while water pumping. This is not due to simply wanting to avoid the mushroom, though.

I developed an oddly shaped penis through PE, as I described in great detail in the opening posts of my second log. The part that matters here is that my CC is wider on the 1.5 inches of my shaft than the rest, and it tapers down until it reaches the base. In addition to this, hanging and pumping caused the skin on my shaft to expand both girth-wise and length-wise. Thankfully, this has not yet “restored” my foreskin, but I do not want it to be stretched any further length-wise.

So, I adopted what many pumpers have always done (such as peforeal): I wrap the area from just below the glans to 1.5 inches below with coflex tape. This is the same wrap Monty recommends to be used with his PE weights, and I chose it because it does not hurt to remove (since it has no actual glue of any sort). I wrap about 10-11 inches quite tightly. Admittedly, this is somewhat difficult to get used to and does make the water pumping process somewhat more troublesome, but the benefits have been excellent.

-> I recommend that people with shapes similar to mine (baseball bat) do this. In the long wrong, it should make your penis symmetrical, by allowing more girth expansion throughout the shaft than at the top.
-> Even if you don’t have a baseball bat, a cone shape is preferable in my opinion and doing anything to increase base to midshaft girth over other girth will work towards that.
-> This prevents mushrooms, period.
-> This prevents more foreskin restoration through pumping - it seems to work quite well to this regard. Your skin will still get baggier, but not longer :D .

2. Some more comments on cold water pumping:

Generally, 2 medium sized cubes seem ideal for me, but this will differ depending on the tube size and penis size obviously. What is important is:

-> Do not cold water pump right after a hot session. Let the penis return to room temperature first. (It can be quite uncomfortable and painful if you don’t, as I have learned, and Firegoat confirmed for me via PM).
-> Use a cylinder 3-4 inches above your BPEL. Since ice floats, it’s quite perfect, but still important to keep that space between the glans and the ice.

Keep in mind the cold water method will promote healing significantly, reduce inflammation, etc. I’ve seen the effects myself, this is not some theoretic rambling. It’s very practical. Our goal is to increase our recovery rate - with everything else held equal, higher recovery rate = faster growth.

Originally Posted by caldera
I did a couple of WP’ing sessions by now and can confirm what has been described by LV. After hot water sessions I see some excessive lymph build up which then reduces slightly after an ice cold pump. Now the penis looks well engorged and has a healthy pinkish color. I put in a warm wrap afterwards also.

Interesstingly, I am able to expand even further with cold water than with hot water. I am 18,5 cm bp. That is about as far as I can expand with hot water. In the following cold water session I easily reach 19 to 19,5 cm without getting the feeling the pressure might be too high.

Ok I have noticed this same thing with cold water pumping. I can stretch out another 1/2 inch in the tube and not have it feel uncomfortable. Is this a way to pump for length? What if we just do cold water pumping to begin with and just throw out hot water pumping. What if it’s hot water for girth and cold for length? Gonna try and just pump cold water for a bit and see what happens. I’ll keep you all updated.

Hi I’m new to this. I just bought a basic/normal pump from pumptoys. Can I use this for water pumping? Or I need to have special cylinder etc?

Originally Posted by Armadon
Ok I have noticed this same thing with cold water pumping. I can stretch out another 1/2 inch in the tube and not have it feel uncomfortable. Is this a way to pump for length? What if we just do cold water pumping to begin with and just throw out hot water pumping. What if it’s hot water for girth and cold for length? Gonna try and just pump cold water for a bit and see what happens. I’ll keep you all updated.

I still have greater length expansion with hot water pumping. That may be due to the IR light’s incredible effect, I’m not sure if you’re using IR as well. Anyway, I explained why I think the cold might allow this to occur easier. The main difference between tissue expansion in the two cases seems to be girth expansion, for me.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
Hey LV!

Sounds like you are making great gains! Glad to see you are continuing to improve this approach, I made sure to add this to my favorites to keep tabs on what you are up to.

Sparkyx,

It’s great to see you posting again. I think I have been making gains, but I have not been recording them yet. What have you been up to? Have you continued water pumping? :D

Originally Posted by kohkindachi
Hi I’m new to this. I just bought a basic/normal pump from pumptoys. Can I use this for water pumping? Or I need to have special cylinder etc?

Yes. Read this thread and pay attention to sparkyx and my opening posts:

WATER PUMPING > Air Pumping

Ok so I tried pumping with just really cold water last night and that was all. Something interesting happened. I had no fluid build up in my penis at all while pumping. I did 2 sets of 15 minutes in ice cold water. Now when I finished and my penis started to warm up fluid started to creep in like a normal pump session. I found this really odd for some reason. Now it wasn’t a lot but it was definately noticeable. I am getting a great stretch in the pump with cold water more than doing hot water and a heating pad wrapped around it. Oh yeah I was woken up twice last night because of nightly wood. It was freaking hard as a rock and huge. Gonna keep experamenting with just cold water for a bit.

Originally Posted by Armadon
Ok so I tried pumping with just really cold water last night and that was all. Something interesting happened. I had no fluid build up in my penis at all while pumping. I did 2 sets of 15 minutes in ice cold water. Now when I finished and my penis started to warm up fluid started to creep in like a normal pump session. I found this really odd for some reason. Now it wasn’t a lot but it was definately noticeable. I am getting a great stretch in the pump with cold water more than doing hot water and a heating pad wrapped around it. Oh yeah I was woken up twice last night because of nightly wood. It was freaking hard as a rock and huge. Gonna keep experamenting with just cold water for a bit.

Miracles of cold water! Keep us updated Armadon.

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