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Vacuum Pumping when you have ED; the short version, according to Avocet8

Using low Hg (3 or 4 Hg) shouldn’t be aproblem and should enable you to pump 3 or 4 times a week to start with . About 20 minutes per session should be fairly comfortable.

As an alternative, YOu might like to consider this thought.

Most of the sensitivity of your dick is in the Glans. So perhaps you could try gripping the base of your Glans (Where the ridge is) with your two middle fingers at the base of the fingers, (palm facing towards you) then give it gentle pulls there ,- towards your head; sideways; and down. You might find your dick responding by getting fatter, and if lucky it will enable you to get better erections.

I found it helpful a while back when things got a bit slack down there.

This can’t be garanteed of course, but the stimulus might help. Let us know how you get on.

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I have a question regarding my cylinder size. I’ve been having ED problems for several months now, looking to use the pump to help me overcome them. The problem is I can’t seem to get a good seal with 1.75”x9” pump (My semi-erect girth is at least 4.5” at the base, with my full erect being somewhere between 4.7”-5”). When I enter the pump flaccid or even semi-erect I can never get a good pump as most of the pressure concentrates on my fat pad rather than my shaft/head. I’m going to completely shave my pubic hairs tomorrow in hopes of getting a better seal, but I seriously doubt that’s the problem. Should I maybe downgrade to a 1.5” cylinder until I’m able to get fuller erections?

I’ve had the same problem, no matter the tube size, since I began pumping - what? 9 years ago? Time flies. :)

I think the issue is two-fold: hairs under the rim of the tube do create little air channels. Try shaving about a quarter inch up onto your fat pad, all around the base of your shaft.
And, it may be related to shaft shape. My cock is more sort of triangular than round; this leaves small spaces on both sides. A petroleum-base lube (Vaseline) applied to the tube base does help, as opposed to glycerine-based lubes like Astroglide, etc.


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avocet8

I just bought bathmate pump 4 days ago I lost 90 euro.Ok I have to say the device is well built and it works well but I don’t need and nobody here need it does not give you any benefit.If you do hard several times maybe your penis can grow cause it will chronically inflamed and then inflated
But this system when the inflamation go away your size wil return as before you started pumping and you have to pray to not having corpora cavernosas problems caused from severals to harder pumping session.On the other side if you do softly as I did these last days you will not notify any benefit the only thing I realized is that my penis become stressed not reactive for erections since I started I nototify worst and less erection this means is not healthy for the penis don’t care of enlargement..

After this I have to make a clarification:

There are no scientifical prove saying vacuum is good to treat erectile difuntion as a therapy.The only way was used this kind of vacuum devices
Was to obtain an artificial erection that has to be mantain with the help of a constriction ring for having a sexual intercourse.Nobody in the urology-andrology world said this device can promote better spontaneus erection if you use frequently and even better permanent penis enlargement(just a momentaneus if you pump to much with all the risks involved.)

So my bathmate is going to be trought out of the windows and I’ll think I’ll consoult a serious doctor to take care of my penis instead of beliving bullshits as website like bathmate promotote.They are not medical device as they try to claim they just produce bullshit for pornoshop.
The only device is medical approved is the extender and it can just elongate your penis not girth gains are described in the studies.
But the most important thing if you want to try this device.I don’t think I will ever do because I don’t need lenght gain is to follow exactly the doctor advice on how to use it.Cause if you do your self could be very dangerous risking serious damage untill partial or complete erectile disfuntion.
I hope this thread will help some of you.

robbie2073, you have posted this same post in three threads here. Please do not do that again.


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Originally Posted by robbie2073
….Nobody in the urology-andrology world said this device can promote better spontaneus erection if you use frequently and even better permanent penis enlargement(just a momentaneus if you pump to much with all the risks involved.)

Not so, robbie. Urologists here in the USA very often recommend pumping as a method of improving penile vascular efficiency.


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avocet8

Originally Posted by avocet8
Not so, robbie. Urologists here in the USA very often recommend pumping as a method of improving penile vascular efficiency.

Maybe you are right but I didn’t found something like this if we don’t count seller wich they claim their device help you to cure everything even depression if you read them seems miracolus.
By the way can you post me serious studying of the medical community claims vacuum help improve erection quality.Cause in my small experience is not like this maybe because I just start with few session and my penis is a little bit stressed as you start going to the gym first days.But I never found any doctor advice vacuum pump for improve spontaneus erections but just to achieve one in people with serious erectile dysfunction as it is a non invasive and expensive metodh like prothesys.

There is lots of info out there; many urologists do suggest vacuum pumps, including the Mayo Clinic. And, the American Medicare system will pay most of the cost, if recommended by a doctor. Do some research.

You have to go into pumping slowly and without causing stress to your unit. If you feel stress, cut back on your time in the tube, and on your pressure which may be higher than your tissue can tolerate.


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avocet8

Http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/penis/MC00026

From MAYOCLINIC website:Vacuum pumps. Because pumps draw blood into the penis and make it swell, they’re sometimes used in the treatment of impotence (erectile dysfunction). Using a penis pump more often and for a longer time than it’s typically used for treatment of erectile dysfunction can damage elastic tissue in the penis, leading to less-firm erections. Using a vacuum pump may create an illusion of a larger penis, but results are seldom permanent.

From me:This means is used just to achieve an erection when is needed in impotence situation not to cure impotence..

If you find different studies is better you post link instead saying there are a lot of urologist claim this.The only urologist I found claim this are the fake one with strange names on the website of the pump sellers..
Fore sure if you pump careful fore sure you will not gain nothing in size and also I’m skeptical you can improve your spontaneus erection..
I read to many story of people had erectile problems after pumping a lot and the results were not permanent.

robbie2073, if you criticize avocet8 for citing ‘a lot of urologist’, then expect to be criticized yourself for citing ‘to many story of people had erectile problems’ without further substantiation.

You can also claim that ‘Fore sure if you pump careful fore sure you will gain nothing in size’, but there are users here who will disagree from their own personal experience, which is at least as valid as your unsubstantiated assertion.


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
Robbie2073, if you criticize avocet8 for citing ‘a lot of urologist’, then expect to be criticized yourself for citing ‘to many story of people had erectile problems’ without further substantiation.

You can also claim that ‘Fore sure if you pump careful fore sure you will gain nothing in size’, but there are users here who will disagree from their own personal experience, which is at least as valid as your
Unsubstantiated assertion.

Your are right infact I’m posting a lot of scientific link I expect avocet8 will do the same confirm his point of view we are not talking about enlargement that in this case could be consider a plus but about health of the penis with pumping and I don’t find any urologist saying this device are used to improve penis health but just as a way to achieve erection with ring and everything as to be done safely without exceed 30 minutes during the intercourse.

Http://www.medicinenet.com/penis_prosthesis/article.htm

Here they say pump are just used to achieve an erection an than you can mantain with a cock ring for not more than 30 minutes after removing the pump and start to join your sexual intercourse..

Http://www.peyronies-disease-help.com/blog/?p=207

Again bad news on VED

I think robbie2073 is looking for a quick fix and is not that interested in learning to use the proper techniques that make pumping a beneficial exercise. It is quite obvious he used too much pressure using his Bathmate and that is a drawback of this device because it does not have a pressure gauge. But to use the improper technique and then condemn pumping altogether is shortsighted. I would suggest using proper low pressure techniques before throwing out the process. Beginners to pumping should always use a system with a pressure gauge so they don’t injure themselves.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Originally Posted by gprent
I think robbie2073 is looking for a quick fix and is not that interested in learning to use the proper techniques that make pumping a beneficial exercise. It is quite obvious he used too much pressure using his Bathmate and that is a drawback of this device because it does not have a pressure gauge. But to use the improper technique and then condemn pumping altogether is short sited. I would suggest using proper low pressure techniques before throwing out the process. Beginners to pumping should always use a system with a pressure gauge so they don’t injure themselves.

I did 4 session the first you were right cause I had really small red spots went away just the day after than for sure overpumping.
The other session I did really softly at 15cm at least 2,5cm less than my full size.I’m 17,5 cm fully erect when I fell bad with weak erection I’m 16,5 and when I’m completly relax with a lot of stamina I can reach 18cm on my best.But most of the time I’m 17,5 so 15cm with the pump is a safe limit.By the way I didn’t have any pain discolouration or red spots but definitly not better erection during the day.
And we are discussing if Vacuum pump can make the penis healthier or not.And all scientifical use I saw never claim this kind of device as a vasculare gymnastics.But it use as a non invasive method to achieve erection with a cock ring..
Maybe I’m wrong but I would like to see scientifics words prove this.
Http://www.impotence-guide.com/impo…cuum-pumps.html

Originally Posted by robbie2073
Http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/penis/MC00026

…If you find different studies is better you post link instead saying there are a lot of urologist claim this.The only urologist I found claim this are the fake one with strange names on the website of the pump sellers.

What do you want me to do? A telephone search of all urologists in my area who suggest pumping? Forget it. :)

I can tell you that my two urologists, former and current, think that pumping does help increase arterial efficiency over time.

Why are you so negative? Pumps are not just used for on-demand erections.

Do you have erectile dysfunction, robbie?


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avocet8

Originally Posted by avocet8
What do you want me to do? A telephone search of all urologists in my area who suggest pumping? Forget it. :)

I can tell you that my two urologists, former and current, think that pumping does help increase arterial efficiency over time.

Why are you so negative? Pumps are not just used for on-demand erections.

Do you have erectile dysfunction, robbie?

I don’t want you give me phone numbers of your urologist but if you can find any documents from medical community that claims pump are not just like you say used for on-demand erections.
I’m not impotent but if this device can improve my erections power I would start training and maybe even see if they can provide me an increased girth in the months.
But I would like to assure me this device at least improve penis health instead of the opposite.

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