Starting out with pumping

Hey everyone guys, so after a few years of manual exercise only I finally decided to try out this pumping thing.

Why didn’t I start before? A bit scared of putting a dick inside a tube and use pressure to enlarge it, basically.

I want before looking into buy my pumping advice, asking you veterans a couple of questions, if you can help me it would be appreciated.

So to start off:

1 - Should i purchase a bathmate or a classic air pump with gauge? Since bathmate has no pressure control I wanted to buy a thickwall standard set, which I heard is a really good quality set to start with.

2 - I’m mainly purchasing the pump because I heard it temporarily increases your girth for a couple of hours after the session which will take me to reach my girth goal (I don’t want length), my question is :will this make my dick bigger for few hours but my erection a little bit spongy and not a top notch 100%? I really don’t want to be bigger but lose my hardness, this is REALLY an important point both for me and my partner.

3 - Since I’m going for girth, I heard that the best cylinder for this goal, are the Lapdidst ones, is this correct?

4 - With how much pressure/timing should I start my session as a pump beginner? How many days should I pump to start with?

5 - What are the risks of pumping? And are there any possible injuries even if done safe and correctly? I’m talking from small injuries to permanent really bad once.

6 - What can i do to actually make temporary gains to be permanent gains?

7 - Going inside the tube 100% hard is the way to go to reduce donut effect and EQ drop, is this correct?

8 - Will I always get some donut effect even if I pump shortly just before sex session?

9 - Water pumping with a gauge is possible? Can I do it with my thickwall set? Is hot water pumping better than classic air pump?

Thanks a lot for the time and the answers guys, hope you had a great Easter break, peace Accro.

I want to pump also and would love to here the answers to your questions.

Thank you Latex, glad the post can be useful also for other members.

I’ll have a go but I’m no expert on pumping etc so keep that in mind ok?

1 - Should i purchase a bathmate or a classic air pump with gauge? Since bathmate has no pressure control I wanted to buy a thickwall standard set, which I heard is a really good quality set to start with.
I would get a Thickwall and if you want to be double sure get the starter kit with a water trap. The water trap is not really needed but it comes with the starter kit anyways. Nothing wrong with the Bathmate but a gauge makes things so much easier.

2 - I’m mainly purchasing the pump because I heard it temporarily increases your girth for a couple of hours after the session which will take me to reach my girth goal (I don’t want length), my question is :will this make my dick bigger for few hours but my erection a little bit spongy and not a top notch 100%? I really don’t want to be bigger but lose my hardness, this is REALLY an important point both for me and my partner.
Depends on how much you pump. From personal experience I can add .125 girth without being much softer, but anything beyond that is indeed a bit softer. You’ll def. not be as rock hard as you usually are.

3 - Since I’m going for girth, I heard that the best cylinder for this goal, are the Lapdidst ones, is this correct?
I think this is personal taste but I’ll be happy to get corrected on this.

4 - With how much pressure/timing should I start my session as a pump beginner? How many days should I pump to start with?
I would check these threads:
Vacuum Pumping 101
Is LESS more, or is MORE more?
Reflections and Progress: thoughtfulgold
Long story short- to start out I’d not go beyond 5HG and do 3x5min sessions on a 1-on 2-off schedule. But I’d also include manual exercises with pumping, too.

5 - What are the risks of pumping? And are there any possible injuries even if done safe and correctly? I’m talking from small injuries to permanent really bad once.
I think the injury forum is your best source here. The risk is putting your member into a tube with a high vacuum and literally killing it.

6 - What can i do to actually make temporary gains to be permanent gains?
There is no holy grail here. I think the general consensus is that steady & slow is the key- read Thoughtfulgod’s posts as he’s written a lot on theory & practice on this topic. Really. Read it.

7 - Going inside the tube 100% hard is the way to go to reduce donut effect and EQ drop, is this correct?
AFAIK only pump time & vacuum affects donut. I go in hard simpy because it’s more efficient timewise.

8 - Will I always get some donut effect even if I pump shortly just before sex session?
See 7- if you pump at the right level you’ll get very little, but you WILL get a bit softness.

9 - Water pumping with a gauge is possible? Can I do it with my thickwall set? Is hot water pumping better than classic air pump?
Yes. There’s a Thickwall starter with a water trap. Essentially you will the tube with water, pump, and have enough air on top of the tube to be pumped out without water getting into the pump itself, and the water trap catches excess water you’re pumping. As to what’s better, this is IMO personal taste and there’s a few threads about it too- just search water pump. I alternate between both and find I get a bit more expansion with hot water but it’s also more fluid buildup.

Hope this helps- and do the search. There’s loads to read here.

I use a LeLuv and I really like it. It’s good quality and was pretty cheap too. For a beginning set do it for 10 minutes and stay under 5hg. I never really go above 5hg and so far I’ve gained about 3/4 of an inch.

Here was my routine:
10 min heat up with heating pad
Stretch 30 seconds up straight out left right and down 2 sets.
*when time permit I would do some jelqs before inbetween and after. I haven’t been able to do that for awhile now.
10 minutes pumping at 5hg or less and WRAP THE TUBE WITH A HEATING PAD heat does wonders.
Slowly increase your time by 5 minutes or so after a few weeks.

By the end of my routine I would do 2 20 minute sets back to back. Try to jelq inbetween. I would end with a hot shower.

Gprent is one of the pumping masters around here too btw.

Here’s my take after air pumping for 8 months proceeding a manual only routine.

1 - Should i purchase a bathmate or a classic air pump with gauge? Since bathmate has no pressure control I wanted to buy a thickwall standard set, which I heard is a really good quality set to start with.

==> Purchasing a pump with a gauge allowing for pressure control is very important and can’t be overemphasized. That said, I would recommend air pumping.

2 - I’m mainly purchasing the pump because I heard it temporarily increases your girth for a couple of hours after the session which will take me to reach my girth goal (I don’t want length), my question is :will this make my dick bigger for few hours but my erection a little bit spongy and not a top notch 100%? I really don’t want to be bigger but lose my hardness, this is REALLY an important point both for me and my partner.

==> This really depends on how long you pump, especially during your beginning stage. As a beginner, it is very very easy to be deceived by the instant girth increase from pumping, especially after several months of following a manual only girth routine like jelqing. The post girth increase from your typical 20” jelq session and a 20” pump session even at a moderate pressure of 4” Hg are light years apart! Only caveat is that you can’t sustain a hard erection after, because your dick has not been conditioned to pumping. To enjoy a post pump sex with a strong EQ as a beginner, I’ll recommend you pump for less than 5-8” at a moderate pressure less than 4” Hg. This way your EQ will be strong and your girth will be significantly bigger.

3 - Since I’m going for girth, I heard that the best cylinder for this goal, are the Lapdidst ones, is this correct?

==> I own an LAPdist pump, and I love it so far!

4 - With how much pressure/timing should I start my session as a pump beginner? How many days should I pump to start with?

==> See answer #2. For starters I will recommend 3-4 sessions/week.

5 - What are the risks of pumping? And are there any possible injuries even if done safe and correctly? I’m talking from small injuries to permanent really bad once.

==> The biggest risk to pumping usually happens at the extreme of pressure and long duration in the tube. High pressure pumping (over 6” Hg) for me only leads to a fat lymph fluid dick that looks unnatural. Following a conservative routine of less than 5” Hg and 7-12 minutes per set is the way to go for a beginner. I have observed no long term side effects or injuries with this routine.

6 - What can i do to actually make temporary gains to be permanent gains?

==> This is all about watching for positive P.I’s. Even neutral P.I’s should be avoided when pumping. I completely agree with long time veterans of pumping like Gprent and avocet8 (P.S: both guys are the gurus of air pumping and you should read all their threads) that the sign of a good pumping regimen is the presence of strong night and morning wood. If your EQ is waning after a day of pumping, that means it’s time to back off, rest and reduce the intensity of your pumping sessions. Including jelqing with your pumping routine is widely accepted as a method of converting temporary girth gains to permanent gains. I make sure to jelq before and after my pumping session and edge in between pumping sets. I must say I’m happy with the girth and EQ gains I have achieved so far.

7 - Going inside the tube 100% hard is the way to go to reduce donut effect and EQ drop, is this correct?

==> I will say this is absolutely true! Effective pumping can never be done mindlessly. I have found pumping to be the most challenging of all P.E exercises. Not only should you enter the tube with an EQ as close to 100% as possible but you should also maintain an EQ above 90% while in the pump to (1) create tissue expansion due to elevated blood pressure in the penile chambers (2) Reduce the amount of lymph fluid that is drawn in under the skin of the penis. Stay in the tube with any EQ levels significantly lower than these and all you get is a nasty donut effect. This is why before I pump, I need to clear my head of everything else and concentrate solely on achieving a high quality erection for the duration of my pumping session. That my friend is not an easy task.

8 - Will I always get some donut effect even if I pump shortly just before sex session?

==> Following #7, you could lower or even eliminate the donut effect. Some other methods like condom pumping also help with controlling the donut effect, which typically happens around the circumcision scar area.

9 - Water pumping with a gauge is possible? Can I do it with my thickwall set? Is hot water pumping better than classic air pump?

==> Never tried water pumping with my air pump. Don’t see any need to. I pump with a heating pad on my tube and an electric space heater blowing at my groin area. Remember in any P.E routine constant heat is and will always remain your best friend!

I hope this helps. All the best pumping and happy gaining mate!!

Hey thanks a lot for the time and effort guys, hope for more coming from the veterans!

I have been pumping (air) for over seven years and have gained a little over one inch in girth. Accordingly, I may be a little prejudice but My recommendation is to get an air pump with a vacuum gauge so you can control the vacuume level and pump anywhere in the house.

My routine for five years was to pump twice a day, six days a week for twenty minutes at 5 hg. Once a week I would pump for 45 minutes at 4 hg. I would also mix in some pulse pumping as well.

Thanks warren for the feedback, any suggestion on how to successful pump before a sex session without getting soft EQ? Thanks

In addition to my one inch plus perminant gains, I pump for about ten minutes at 5 hg prior to sex which generates an additional 1/2 inch in temporary gains. However, I suffer with ED so I need to use a tight constriction band to maintain the increased girth.

For you guys experienced in pumping, does it have a similar effect as jelqing which makes your EQ significantly better over time and increases the entire blood flow system in your unit when well practiced?

As mentioned above I would recommend an air pump. I used the penomet water pump for a while with a wine bottle sealer for extra pressure and saw decent results but I wouldn’t recommend that route. The air pumps are easier to use, more effective and safer so long as you are using a gauge. As to your question about EQ I have found mine to remain consistently strong while keeping up a pumping routine. I have experimented at high pressure and can say from my experience it will do nothing but set you back so stick with air at around the 5hg mark.

If you are cut, pump with a silicone sleeve around the coronal ridge and the circ scar and you’ll solve the donut effect

Hi guy. First time poster here.
Just a quick question really, I’ve just purchased a air pump with gauge and can only pump it up to roughly 2mmhg before my scrotum starts getting sucked in to tube slightly (becoming very painful). I’ve always had quite a small tight scrotum and balls, but unsure if anyone else on here has a similar problem, and how they have got around it?

Many thanks for answers in advance.

Gunner,

It sounds like you may have too large of a tube. What’s your girth and what size tube do you have?