Pumping routine advice please

I have been pumping for a few months and I have managed to work up to 3 sets of 10mins every other day, although lately I have not been waking up with morning wood so maybe I got to 30 mins too quickly. Anyway my question is, lately I have been seeing more people are having success with pumping on a daily basis starting at 10mins then working up to 3 sets of 10 mins. Would it be viable for me to start doing 10mins a day or would I be working backwards as my current routine is a lot longer? If it doesn’t matter should I take a couple of days off before I start a new routine?

Loss of morning wood tends to indicate you are over training. Proper pumping should increase EQ not decrease it. Your options are to either cut the time in half and see if EQ starts to come back up, or drop vacuum force. I suggest drop vacuum force (what level are you using?) and see how that works for you.

Me, for example, at 3 sets of 15 minutes, 3 in hg leads to improved EQ but not much expansion. 4 leads to some expansion, but needs to take a day off every other day or EQ starts to drop. 5 in hg, will crash my EQ after one day. So, small changes can make a big difference. I suspect you are using too high a vacuum level.

listen to sparkyx. I was like you and doing multiple sets of 8-10 minutes after the first week. i cut it back to 3 sets of 5 minutes in the 3-4 hg range and got all positive PIs. Once this little bruise goes away, im going to bump it to 3 sets of 7 min.

I found pretty much the same and settled on 2 days on, 1 off, at 4 Hg. Hmm, wonder if 3 hg with less expansion but done daily would be better for gains over the long term?

IF you get expansion, yes. IF you don’t after the sets, and if after a week still no expansion, then use it as recovery and bump it up to 4 for gains.

Thanks for the replies, I have read many stories on here about pressure so I have been using about 3hg, unfortunately my gauge starts at zero then the next number is 5 with a mark inbetween to show 2.5hg. I try to stay just above the 2.5 mark which I take as 3hg. I have never really seen much expansion in any of the exercises I have tried which is why I started pumping. When I go to 5hg I see that, lengthwise, I can get past a mark I made with a pen but it is hard to track girth gains. I have made a slight one as I used to use a 1.5” tube but I tried it recently and it is uncomfortable with 3hg pressure so I use a 2.0” tube now. I just felt that 20mins was never enough time to see any expansion so I upped it to 30. I can get an erection after the session and easily get strong erections during the day but the morning wood has vanished…although last night I do remember being disturbed by one, just didn’t wake up with one. So sparkyx, you pump everyday for 45 minutes? How long did it take for you to get to that stage and what made you up the time?

I have been at this for about 6 years and haven’t YET settled into any routine except constant experimentation. One day I will figure it out!:)

Seriously though, I will use a routine based on EQ and gains. As long as my EQ stays at least 6 out of 10, I will continue, but if it crashes, I either drop the routine down or take a day or so off. I still haven’t decided which is best. You have to try out different approaches for yourself and see what does best for you. I think its also good to switch up methods, as well as periodic decons.

I also think bpfsl and EQ are good daily guides for your PE, and of course bpel and eg are the final word in gains. I like Avocets rule of being able to get a nice hard erection at the end of your routine, if you can’t…back off. He has a very conservative approach, but I think in the long run that really is best. Its “encouraging” growth, not trying to “force” it. Now, some guys can “force” it and make gains, and some guys crash and burn if that try that. You really have to see what you respond best to, and work within that framework.

With regards to pumping for girth gains (and a preemptive apology to beenie169 if he thinks I have hijacked his thread), I wanted to ask if it’s necessary to see an expansion within the tube to judge to see if you are at the right pressure. By this I mean, suppose my MEG = 4.5”, then I decide to pump for girth gains, then should I gradually increase pressure until I observe my girth go up (to say like 4.75”) and hold that for 5-10 minutes (this is for a newbie at pumping).

I feel that since my tunica is fairly though, that I don’t think I will see a girth expansion at 3 Hg vacuum under a pump. So I don’t know if I should start of at a higher pressure, say 3.5 Hg or 4 Hg.

Thanks for the advice sparkyx, I always check to see I can get a good erection at the end of the session and it is normally hard even though there might be a bit of edema near the head. When you speak of erection quality do you mean throughout the day you erections will be 6-10 in terms of strength? If this is the case then I am not overworking my piece as I can get strong ones. I rarely see any expansion though so I’m going to stop for a week then start doing 10mins every day and start working it up that way. Just out of curiosity- what lubricant do you use? At the moment I am using a water based one and it is good but I am coming to the end of it so if there is anything better I will definitly try it.

NSF001- hijack away man, aslong as its related you might as well add any relevant questions because other people might be thinking the same thing! As a mater of fact, I kind of am wondering the same as it is hard to measure how much your girth is changing inside the pump, you can only really measure how much further up the pump you are moving (mine seems to have frozen unless I go above 5hg). The general consensus is to start at 3hg and see how your penis reacts- especially if you are new to pumping as you can quickly get carried away with it but I’ll leave it to the more experienced to chime in.

Erection Quality is a misunderstanding that crept in early on, but is incorrect. Its ERECTILE Quality, the sum total of characteristics. Read this thread to understand the principle;

Warning! If you haven’t gotten improved erections:

So you evaluate the total characteristics to get a read, but then you will find one or two that are reliable indicators.

Avocet, whom I feel is one of the real Authorities here on pumping, says you really don’t have to see much expansion to make gains. I have to agree, but add that I think just a bit past your best erection is good to shoot for. Unfortunately, many guys get edema confused with expansion.

The test is to pinch the skin on your penis before you begin pumping and see how thin it is. If it gets any thicker than that while you are pumping, its edema.

If you can get expansion without edema, great. If you can’t then thats fine too. Do your routine for a week or two and see if you are beginning to get some increased girth. Most of the pumpers that know their stuff agree that girth will respond to lower vacuum levels than for length, and the key is longer time frames. So, you just have to experiment. I feel that if you get turtling that lasts more than an hour, you need to drop vacuum levels or time down.

Thank you sparkyx! Btw, big fan of your work in the field of PE :) . Yeah, I am hoping that pumping will also be a good way to recover my EQ.

Pumping is a GREAT method to increase EQ, but also you can easily over train. Anything method that expands the penis in 3D (three dimensions) can easily over train you. Thats why girth work is so much easier overdone than pure stretching.

So, with that in mind, if you are working on EQ, start with low vacuum levels first, for example 2-3 in hg range. Spend a couple weeks with that and see how it effects you. After you find a vacuum range and time range that improves your EQ, then you can slowly change the perimeters.

My advice is only change one perimeter at a time. So for example, you find 3 sets of 5 minutes at 3 in hg has improved your EQ, then you can try to go to 3 sets of 7 minutes @ 3 in hg. Don’t try and increase vacuum level AND time at the same time, because if it crashes your EQ, you won’t know which did it.

For most of us, slow and steady is what works.

Turns out my erection quality is still fine, if not a little better so I’m going to stay at 3 sets of 10mins. How would I up the intensity though, would I need to start working up to 4 sets of 10 and a 5 minute session and then maybe turn to 3 sets of 15mins? I am struggling to understand how often or how you are supposed to know to increase intensity. Surely there comes a limit to when its just the same all the time and your penis would become conditioned? How do the long term pumpers deal with this?