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Pumping produces permanent gains

JHTownsend, I understand you suggestion. However I think there is a lot know to be grateful for, for the contributions Clubber and those like him have given to this community. Some of our senior members might not be as engaged in this forum during some seasons. I’m certain if you kindly ask Clubber to give you an update he would be willing to assist. Wishing you well in your journey.


05/12/2005 : BPEL: 6.1"x EG:5.5" Current as of : 24/12/2011 : BPEL 7.87" x EG: 6.3" Long term Goal 8.5"x 6.4"

" There is only one option success; for failure is the refusal to persist"

Originally Posted by Clubber
You do though if you want to stretch out those ligs.

It’s actually the tunica that you’re directly stretching. The ligs are held in place by the bottom of the pump tube.

Tunica stretching is actually way harder to do manually because you need to stretch with both hands in both directions, and might even be more effective than lig stretches.

I think the secret is to find that sweet spot in pressure where your dick is expanding equally upwards and outwards. Too much pressure will stretch you too long and prevent girth expansion over time, too little pressure and you won’t really do anything.

Find that sweet spot and just chill out in the pump. For me it’s around 6-7Hg, then I pump for around 20 minutes total.


Start - 09/28/16: BPEL: 6.5" MEG: 4.66" (Pumping, Clamping, Cockrings & Stretches)

Current - 5/28/17: BPEL: 7.1" (+.6") MEG: 4.8" (+.14") --- Been at PE for 8 Months

Girthquest: Short-term Goal: MEG: 5" -- Ultimate Cemented Goal: MEG: 5.5"

Originally Posted by Pizzza
It’s actually the tunica that you’re directly stretching. The ligs are held in place by the bottom of the pump tube.

Tunica stretching is actually way harder to do manually because you need to stretch with both hands in both directions, and might even be more effective than lig stretches.

I think the secret is to find that sweet spot in pressure where your dick is expanding equally upwards and outwards. Too much pressure will stretch you too long and prevent girth expansion over time, too little pressure and you won’t really do anything.

Find that sweet spot and just chill out in the pump. For me it’s around 6-7Hg, then I pump for around 20 minutes total.

My pump experience yields a similar idea. The tunica is stretched, especially at higher pressures. An experiment yielded an interesting find. At 15HG for 30 seconds my cock was pulled straight inside of the tube without packing it. This I’ve never seen and if it were hitting just ligaments wouldn’t be possible.

All of the times I’ve pumped previously that’s never happened. So, I imagine permanent gains, simply from the raw power that pumps can generate, are more than possible but likely if manipulated properly. I’ve gained girth from pumping but this idea explains why better. And it explains why packing the tube is even possible.

Excellent, Pizza.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6" MSEG as of 12/16/2016 This is my story...and a few progress pics of me here.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My big secret? My methods. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *8* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith. Also Fitness helps too.

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
So, I imagine permanent gains, simply from the raw power that pumps can generate, are more than possible but likely if manipulated properly. I’ve gained girth from pumping but this idea explains why better. And it explains why packing the tube is even possible.

Excellent, Pizza.

Thanks TP, also for guinnea-pigging a test that I was too nervous to do myself (;

The more i use, learn and experience pumping, the more it’s clear to me that there’s no way that pumping can’t lead to permanent gains - in both girth or length - when used effectively.

When I was still length-oriented, manual tunica stretching was the hardest stretch to pull off. Hard enough getting one good grip on your shaft to pull, but another at the base, it took forever to work it out properly. But If you use the right size tube and high enough pressure you’ll probably stretch that thing like crazy.

If anyone is considering this approach for length, TREAT IT LIKE A STRETCH, NOT A PUMP. Properly warm up and do 30 second holds. Don’t treat it like a pumping session or you’re going to rip something.


Start - 09/28/16: BPEL: 6.5" MEG: 4.66" (Pumping, Clamping, Cockrings & Stretches)

Current - 5/28/17: BPEL: 7.1" (+.6") MEG: 4.8" (+.14") --- Been at PE for 8 Months

Girthquest: Short-term Goal: MEG: 5" -- Ultimate Cemented Goal: MEG: 5.5"

I recently got a brake bleeder pump with a gauge and now I know exactly how much force I’m applying to my unit.

I’ve gone several minutes at 15 hgs and feel more of a stretch than an expansion which is precisely what I’ve been looking for.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Interesting topic. Something that I find curious is people reporting temporary girth increase after pumping. This never seems to happen with me so far (after 30 mins at 4hg-5hg), and the penis goes right back to regular size.

Also, I have a pump cylinder which I believe is above my girth size. If the seal keeps the penis in place (stops surrounding area sucking in) is it still good to use?

Originally Posted by DarkEngine
Interesting topic. Something that I find curious is people reporting temporary girth increase after pumping. This never seems to happen with me so far (after 30 mins at 4hg-5hg), and the penis goes right back to regular size.
Also, I have a pump cylinder which I believe is above my girth size. If the seal keeps the penis in place (stops surrounding area sucking in) is it still good to use?

You should select a tube 0,5~1cm bigger than your penis in girth to start.

There is 2 ways to expand. The CC and fluid. If you are not getting nothing maybe it’s your tube or maybe you don’t keep erection while using your penis pump.

Your penis should be bigger after a pump section of 30 min flaccid and erect.

Originally Posted by Pumpbra
You should select a tube 0,5~1cm bigger than your penis in girth to start.

There is 2 ways to expand. The CC and fluid. If you are not getting nothing maybe it’s your tube or maybe you don’t keep erection while using your penis pump.

Your penis should be bigger after a pump section of 30 min flaccid and erect.


I’ll check again. Maybe it is, and it’s just subtle increase. (How much of a temp increase is there on average?)
The second pump I bought now is the only one that, unfortunately, had a gauge and I could afford. ThickWall would be nice but too pricey atm.

Originally Posted by DarkEngine
I’ll check again. Maybe it is, and it’s just subtle increase. (How much of a temp increase is there on average?)
The second pump I bought now is the only one that, unfortunately, had a gauge and I could afford. ThickWall would be nice but too pricey atm.

Go in the tube fully erect and try sticking to 5-7hg, a little over suggested, sure, but everyone is differnent. Maybe you just need the extra force to expand. Try 10 minute sets, getting fully erect each time you go back into the tube.

Temp increases obviously vary too, but mine is almost a full inch in temp girth. This is after 2-3 10 minute sets.


Start - 09/28/16: BPEL: 6.5" MEG: 4.66" (Pumping, Clamping, Cockrings & Stretches)

Current - 5/28/17: BPEL: 7.1" (+.6") MEG: 4.8" (+.14") --- Been at PE for 8 Months

Girthquest: Short-term Goal: MEG: 5" -- Ultimate Cemented Goal: MEG: 5.5"

So the consensus here is that the high force output caused by pumping stretches the tunica, enabling us length and/or girth gains (depending on cylinder diameter) from that.

Following up here, would this in turn also increase the effectiveness of simple manual stretches due to the tunica being in a ‘weakened’ state?

Originally Posted by EdgeWalker
So the consensus here is that the high force output caused by pumping stretches the tunica, enabling us length and/or girth gains (depending on cylinder diameter) from that.
Following up here, would this in turn also increase the effectiveness of simple manual stretches due to the tunica being in a ‘weakened’ state?

I don’t think one could say that manual stretches become easier after pumping.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Originally Posted by a-unit
I don’t think one could say that manual stretches become easier after pumping.

Not easier on it’s own, but what I meant was more in the direction of increased effectiveness otherwise unobtainable due to a too tough tunica.
It could just be wishful thinking on from my part, but I had the distinct feeling I got more of a ‘pull’ with the same stretches than I normally would (prior to any pumping routine).
I was wondering if other people had the same experience…?

Originally Posted by EdgeWalker
Not easier on it’s own, but what I meant was more in the direction of increased effectiveness otherwise unobtainable due to a too tough tunica.
It could just be wishful thinking on from my part, but I had the distinct feeling I got more of a ‘pull’ with the same stretches than I normally would (prior to any pumping routine).
I was wondering if other people had the same experience…?

Yes this has some merit. You can get that pliable state with pumping(especially heat). Stretching after that, especially tunica stretches feel effective. Of course if you pump too much you could get edema which doesnt get along nice with stretching grabbing the skin etc.

I have found that I have felt that deep tissue soreness in the shaft (tunica) with high pressure pumping that I can’t get elsewhere, and that when I use heat I can stretch 1/8” more at least, which is very satisfying.

I would say that heat is THE factor in loosening tissue and that pumping without heat is counter - productive.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

I am just getting back to pumping, after years away, and before, it was more fetish, I liked to pump moderately back then, and stay aroused so that when I came out of the tube, and had warmed down, there was a psychological effect, that made when I finally masturbated later, it seemed like my orgasms were more intense.

I am back to pumping, and my question is when did people start noticing that their post pump size was lasting for a few hours, or maybe half the day, full day, etc.

I am interesting in seeing a general range other people experienced so I can use that as a means to gauge my own progression, fully acknowledging that everyone will be different.

I am rather excited about the prospect, many months down the line or more, where I could pump, and have it’s after affect last a few hours or a day. I enjoy seeing my engorged, enlarged shaft come out of the tube, but usually, having only been pumping for about three weeks steadily, usually doing a one day on, one day off schedule, my engorgement seems to go down now in about ten minutes. When I first started three weeks ago, it went down within a minute, so I am feeling kind of motivated that it is lasting longer.

I have started to pack the base of my tube, and I am starting to get a sense of how much of a pump it takes to expand outward and pack the base of the tube, but also begin to get a length stretch, even if only noticeable.

I don’t have a gauge on my pump, so I am extra careful to take it slow, and I tend to to a partial pull on the pump lever every 30-40 seconds, and wait to see how my shaft is reacting within the pump. When it feels like the base is expanding well and packing the mouth of the tube, I try to keep it around that pressure, only pumping periodically to maintain a just noticeable stretch.

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