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Pumping for the long haul

Pumping for the long haul

I’ve been pumping on and off for 7 years or more.

Using very low suction, I’ve seen excellent results over the course of a couple weeks, or a month, but then eventually the house of cards falls apart. I just can’t keep a routine going very long before it starts to effect my erections. The one obstacle I just can’t seem to get over is recovery.

I’ve never been able to masturbate as often as other guys seem to be able to, (only once or twice a week, or else it starts to not feel as good). This has been true since before I started pumping.

I’ve never been able to exercise as frequently as other people in the gym, (only once a week or less, or I overtrain).

My father says he recovers from injury and sickness a lot slower than normal people too.

I have experimented with pumping off and on for a long time, and have yet to reach a balance that allows me to continue pumping for the long haul. I reach PE overtraining, even in what would be considered a mild and easy routine. If I just listen to my body, and go with my natural recovery rates, I can’t get the stretch often enough to make a difference : / Does anyone have any good advice to remedy the overly delicate system I’m trying to work with? Perhaps supplement recommendation?

My first thought is that this would be good for gains, especially length gains. I don’t think erections need to be fabulous at all times, especially if it’s during a period of growth. How have your gains been? You should try the newbie routine and lay off the pumping if it’s caused trouble in the past.

You say your good cycle last for 3 to 4 weeks and then you start going downhill. The obvious answer is to take a one week break after 3-4 weeks and go again for another 3-4 weeks cycle, then a break. Use what your body gives you, rest when it says to rest.

I used to always go beyond my limits and it took forever for me to learn to train within my limits. When you conquer that, you will make gains, slow, but steady gains. And slow gaining over time beats no gaining every time.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Originally Posted by rushmore
My first thought is that this would be good for gains, especially length gains. I don’t think erections need to be fabulous at all times, especially if it’s during a period of growth. How have your gains been? You should try the newbie routine and lay off the pumping if it’s caused trouble in the past.

I’ve seen up to 1/2 inch increase that lasts until I cannot maintain the program any longer.

Originally Posted by gprent
You say your good cycle last for 3 to 4 weeks and then you start going downhill. The obvious answer is to take a one week break after 3-4 weeks and go again for another 3-4 weeks cycle, then a break. Use what your body gives you, rest when it says to rest.

I used to always go beyond my limits and it took forever for me to learn to train within my limits. When you conquer that, you will make gains, slow, but steady gains. And slow gaining over time beats no gaining every time.


I don’t really see a problem with taking a break every now and then, but for a full recovery from the ‘overtrained’ symptoms, I usually have to rest as long as the program went for.

It generally doesn’t matter if I’m pumping, or jelquing, or lifting weights in the gym. My body just can’t seem to keep up with recovery rates. I’d really hate for my Vacutech electric pump and cylinders to go to waste, seeing how expensive they were. Besides, pumping feels really really great… when I’m at my maximum.

OK, lets look at another angle. What is your diet like? Do you consider yourself a healthy eater-low fat or more fast food-high fat? There is tons of truth in the saying you are what you eat.

Are you in good shape and exercise regularly? Do you smoke?, God forbid. Drink? What are your evil habits? :)


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Vegeto, I’ve found that warm-ups are essential for longer PE sessions. If I don’t warm up for a few minutes with my rice sock I can barely do any exercising before I start to get lots of red spots. I’m not assuming that you do or do not warm up, but I’d highly suggest it if it’s not a regular thing for you.

Also, taking days off is necessary IMO. PE is a complicated system of learning how to communicate with your dick, knowing when to max and knowing when to relax.


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Originally Posted by gprent
OK, lets look at another angle. What is your diet like? Do you consider yourself a healthy eater-low fat or more fast food-high fat? There is tons of truth in the saying you are what you eat.

Are you in good shape and exercise regularly? Do you smoke?, God forbid. Drink? What are your evil habits? :)

I don’t smoke. I have a beer (2 at the most) maybe 2-3 times a year, sometimes less.
I usually eat very clean. I don’t go high carb or low fat, just balanced NATURAL foods. Fish, rice, vegetables, fruit, nuts…. these are a few of my favorite things. I eat a pizza every once in a while, but who doesn’t?

I don’t lift as hard as I used to, and actually spend more time practicing qigong/neigong, but still lift light. I do what I can.

I’ve practiced daoist semen retention methods for several years too, and was able to have full orgasmic contractions without semen loss, but after the contractions, I still feel loss of energy and am uninterested in women for days. No change. I don’t mess with that too much anymore because it really seems to make little difference.

I’m very certain my recovery problem is inherited. I have a twisted body structure and a host of physiological/neurological problems that stem from it, poor recovery and touretts most notable of them. I don’t really like to let that stop me though, and thus, I have done everything in my power to maximize what I’ve got. It just hasn’t been enough yet though. I’ll leave smoking, drinking and shitty food to the people who can afford the handicap tyvm.

BTW, I appreciate the responses. I hate to say it though, I’ve been dealing with this for so many years, I’ve already gone through all the obvious changes that would need to be made : / -Not just for pumping, but for all my works in life.

It would seem you are the expert on your limitations and best methods for dealing with them. As far as PE goes, you have to be the best judge of what is best because no one knows your needs better than you. My previous guesses as to what may help your situation were only aimed at someone who might not realize how important a good lifestyle really is. It is apparent you do. Your only solution is to taylor your efforts to what you have learned your body can tolerate. Just do what you can do and use your body feedback as your guide. You are already an expert at that.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Maybe an ADS would be good for your situation. It shouldn’t present the usual problems you seem to have to deal with.

Originally Posted by gprent
It would seem you are the expert on your limitations and best methods for dealing with them. As far as PE goes, you have to be the best judge of what is best because no one knows your needs better than you. My previous guesses as to what may help your situation were only aimed at someone who might not realize how important a good lifestyle really is. It is apparent you do. Your only solution is to taylor your efforts to what you have learned your body can tolerate. Just do what you can do and use your body feedback as your guide. You are already an expert at that.

I wouldn’t say I’m an expert at it. gprent, your advice is as good and sensible as it could be. I just don’t know why I can’t seem to take things sensibly and then make it work. I always just hit a wall, no matter how I try to be steady yet responsive with my body.

And I don’t mean to be all like “there’s nothing I can do, so what can I do?” I guess I was just looking for some tips to maximize my body’s recovery system, or something. I really wish I was just normal, like everyone else. Ah well, I’m not giving up. I’ll keep your advice in mind as I continue for sure.

Originally Posted by steelrod
Vegeto, I’ve found that warm-ups are essential for longer PE sessions. If I don’t warm up for a few minutes with my rice sock I can barely do any exercising before I start to get lots of red spots. I’m not assuming that you do or do not warm up, but I’d highly suggest it if it’s not a regular thing for you.

Also, taking days off is necessary IMO. PE is a complicated system of learning how to communicate with your dick, knowing when to max and knowing when to relax.

Perhaps I’m rushing my warmups too much.

Originally Posted by rushmore
Maybe an ADS would be good for your situation. It shouldn’t present the usual problems you seem to have to deal with.

I do have some PEWeights. I always found it difficult to find opportunity to keep up on making adjustments when necessary at work all the time, and it’s not nearly as enjoyable as pumping. Perhaps I’ll give it a try again sometime.


Last edited by Vegeto : 12-11-2008 at .

Vegeto, this is my advice. You can’t listen to all our advice because you have a situation that is unique to you. As a matter of fact, I think that everyone that is successful at PE is the person that designs his routine based on knowledge from others and his own needs. Take what you have read, use your past experience and adjust it to your special requirements. You have the knowledge, now design your PE routine. Let physical feedback always be your guide. When things go good, don’t amplify because more is better, just stick with what works. My rules are these. Slow and easy and make it feel good.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Originally Posted by Vegeto
I really wish I was just normal, like everyone else. Ah well, I’m not giving up. I’ll keep your advice in mind as I continue for sure.

Are you sure that there isn’t at least one area in your life where you aspire to be more than ‘just normal’… ?


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
Are you sure that there isn’t at least one area in your life where you aspire to be more than ‘just normal’… ?

Many of the areas that I’m below normal, I strive to be better than normal. I admit it. It’s the only way to make up for never having what is mine to have had. Striving for better than normal is the only way to keep from feeling cheated. If I strive to be ‘just normal’, then I’m working my ass off for what everyone else gets for free. That’s why. That’s why I have to strive for more than that, because I shouldn’t have to strive for anything less.

Why would you ask such a thing?

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