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Eggs just to summarize, there have been a lot of great answers and suggestions so far.

A 1.50” tube will be better since you’re going for length. I have about the same girth measurements as you, and do not pack the 1.50” tube. For the 1.75” tube, we would need to gain almost an entire inch of girth before we could even hope to start packing it.

You can still gain length even though you are not longer in the tube. Certainly it is not a great sign, obviously we would be better off with instant extra length. But when you come out of the tube and do your jelqs, I suspect that your unit is actually longer in this state than it is normally. So you are jelqing a longer penis. That is how it is for me, and I am also about 1/8” shorter in the tube. Consider the balloon analogy for the tunica. The balloon is not expanding lengthwise in the pump, but it is getting stretched girth-wise. When you take it out of the tube, the balloon has just been stretched out, and with that extra elasticity it stretches farther in the length direction as well as girth direction during the jelq.

As the months go by, you are able to stay in the tube for longer periods of time / more sets / higher pressure. And those translate into more length in the tube. Especially time in the tube, as several have mentioned.

Finally maybe it is just not your thing. Some people gain length from pumping, other people don’t. Just from the genetics and anatomy of the individual. But don’t write it off yet, put all those ideas to work for a few months and see if there’s any progress.

Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
Eggs just to summarize, there have been a lot of great answers and suggestions so far.

A 1.50” tube will be better since you’re going for length. I have about the same girth measurements as you, and do not pack the 1.50” tube. For the 1.75” tube, we would need to gain almost an entire inch of girth before we could even hope to start packing it.

You can still gain length even though you are not longer in the tube. Certainly it is not a great sign, obviously we would be better off with instant extra length. But when you come out of the tube and do your jelqs, I suspect that your unit is actually longer in this state than it is normally. So you are jelqing a longer penis. That is how it is for me, and I am also about 1/8” shorter in the tube. Consider the balloon analogy for the tunica. The balloon is not expanding lengthwise in the pump, but it is getting stretched girth-wise. When you take it out of the tube, the balloon has just been stretched out, and with that extra elasticity it stretches farther in the length direction as well as girth direction during the jelq.

As the months go by, you are able to stay in the tube for longer periods of time / more sets / higher pressure. And those translate into more length in the tube. Especially time in the tube, as several have mentioned.

Finally maybe it is just not your thing. Some people gain length from pumping, other people don’t. Just from the genetics and anatomy of the individual. But don’t write it off yet, put all those ideas to work for a few months and see if there’s any progress.

Thanks.

I tried a 1.5 cylinder already and packed it girth-wise immediately and I saw no length stretch at all. I guess the fact that my sets are only 5 minutes really do have something to do with it, but you’re right about my unit being much longer and more plump once I take it out of the tube. I also notice how much more it expands length-wise when I stretch it post-pump session.


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Originally Posted by The Eggs
Thanks.

I tried a 1.5 cylinder already and packed it girth-wise immediately and I saw no length stretch at all. I guess the fact that my sets are only 5 minutes really do have something to do with it, but you’re right about my unit being much longer and more plump once I take it out of the tube. I also notice how much more it expands length-wise when I stretch it post-pump session.

The secret to pumping is time in the tube, so until you are willing or able to get up to at least 30 minutes, there is not too much more to talk about. Keep the pressure around 4”hg and for that amount of time you should go up a size to a 1.75” tube.


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Originally Posted by The Eggs
Thanks.

I tried a 1.5 cylinder already and packed it girth-wise immediately and I saw no length stretch at all. I guess the fact that my sets are only 5 minutes really do have something to do with it, but you’re right about my unit being much longer and more plump once I take it out of the tube. I also notice how much more it expands length-wise when I stretch it post-pump session.

How sure are you with your girth measurement? When I started pumping my MSEG was 4.4 inches and it took me six months and a 30 minute session before I could fully pack my 1.5 inch cylinder.

Originally Posted by gprent
The secret to pumping is time in the tube, so until you are willing or able to get up to at least 30 minutes, there is not too much more to talk about. Keep the pressure around 4”hg and for that amount of time you should go up a size to a 1.75” tube.

The only reason I’m doing what I’m doing is because someone linked this here so I followed its advice: https://www.pumptoys.com/lib/lib1ap.htm

Originally Posted by dtwarren1942
How sure are you with your girth measurement? When I started pumping my MSEG was 4.4 inches and it took me six months and a 30 minute session before I could fully pack my 1.5 inch cylinder.

I bought a gravel cleaner cylinder from Petco which is 1.5 inch diameter by 8-9 inches long. I stuck my penis in and started sucking the air out through the tube it came with and I’d immediately pack the edges of the cylinder and no more amount of air sucking got my penis to get long in the tube. I even tried putting the cylinder on when erect and couldn’t fit the cylinder at all.

On my next pumping session, I’ll do a full 20 minutes (i’ll reach 30 minutes eventually, I’m working my way there via avocet’s pumping routine thread) in the cylinder and see where it goes.


"There is no way to happiness - happiness is the way."

- Dr. Wayne Dyer


Last edited by The Eggs : 01-27-2013 at .

My apologies for the double post, but I figured it would be best to post an update here, but if no one reads and responds to this then I’ll post it in one of the stickies.

Anyways, after the suggestion of a few folks in this thread, I went ahead and purchased a 1.5 inch x 8 inch cylinder from LA Pump and started using it yesterday. A couple things I noticed are that I get the doughnut effect a lot easier even when not going above 5 for pressure and the longest my penis gets in the tube towards the end of the 30 minute session is 5.5 which is .25 inches shorter than my natural erect length.

Is this all okay/normal? My main focus is length here. I honestly can’t see how I’ll even reach 6 to 6.5inches in length in the tube, let alone packing the entire cylinder. :/

I’m guessing I need to stop the breaks every 10 minutes that I do because all I hear from people is that they stay in the tube for 30+ minutes straight with no drop in pressure as a break even though avocet’s main pumping routine calls for sets. So confused on this.


"There is no way to happiness - happiness is the way."

- Dr. Wayne Dyer

I think the stated 30 min session is accumulated time , not uninterrupted. Staying in the tube under pressure for more than 20 mins or even 15 is dangerous.
You should always relieve the pressure every 5 mins to restore circulation.
I cycle the vacuum up and down while gradually stretching to max length.
After 10 min take it out and massage to erection , then go back in and stretch a little farther in the tube.

My bpl is about 6 3/4” - 7”. But I can pump to 8” while packing a 1.75” tube. Just take it slow and gradual.

Originally Posted by tinytim
I think the stated 30 min session is accumulated time , not uninterrupted. Staying in the tube under pressure for more than 20 mins or even 15 is dangerous.
You should always relieve the pressure every 5 mins to restore circulation.
I cycle the vacuum up and down while gradually stretching to max length.
After 10 min take it out and massage to erection , then go back in and stretch a little farther in the tube.

My bpl is about 6 3/4” - 7”. But I can pump to 8” while packing a 1.75” tube. Just take it slow and gradual.

Not really that easy for me to just “massage to erection.” Unfortunately, 50%+ size erections are hard for me to come by (unless given to me naturally by night/morning wood which I do get). It sucks, too, considering I’m only 23 years, active, eat well, drink tons of water, and stay away from porn.


"There is no way to happiness - happiness is the way."

- Dr. Wayne Dyer

Originally Posted by The Eggs
My apologies for the double post, but I figured it would be best to post an update here, but if no one reads and responds to this then I’ll post it in one of the stickies.

Anyways, after the suggestion of a few folks in this thread, I went ahead and purchased a 1.5 inch x 8 inch cylinder from LA Pump and started using it yesterday. A couple things I noticed are that I get the doughnut effect a lot easier even when not going above 5 for pressure and the longest my penis gets in the tube towards the end of the 30 minute session is 5.5 which is .25 inches shorter than my natural erect length.

Is this all okay/normal? My main focus is length here. I honestly can’t see how I’ll even reach 6 to 6.5inches in length in the tube, let alone packing the entire cylinder. :/

I’m guessing I need to stop the breaks every 10 minutes that I do because all I hear from people is that they stay in the tube for 30+ minutes straight with no drop in pressure as a break even though avocet’s main pumping routine calls for sets. So confused on this.

In a narrow tube where you pack more you’re more likely to get fluid build up as the constriction on the tube prevents lymphatic drainage.
You just need to limit time or pressure.

Cycling the pressure down to zero every 5mins does help as it allows for some fluid drainage and fresh blood inflow.

If your cylinder’s to tight I don’t see how you’ll get anywhere with it !

Doing something wrong here.

First off, why are you concerned with length gains from pumping? That’s what hanging/manual exercises are for. You don’t do benchpresses to develop the calves and you don’t do pumping to gain length(although you can get some length gains from it, but that’s not meant to be the focus).

What kind of gauge are you using? Some are terribly inaccurate. You could be hovering around the 2hg mark.

Do you get expansion from manual exercises?

How is your libido? Do you take any supplements? When you pump, your EQ must be very good…massaging for an healthier look and edgin to full erection after pumping session.. leads to gains faster


Starting size: 7.48" X 5.51" Currently: 10.1" X 6.4"

Heat is the key!

A lot of very good advice in this thread! 5 minutes in the pump is like nothing though. If you’ve several cylinder sizes, try longer sets, 15-20 minutes and smaller tube to large. 3-4 sets with a few minutes of break in between. Don’t worry if you get some fluid build up, it will go away. You need to experiment a bit and find your comfort zone. My length in tube is about my BP length. But if you’re looking for length, like the above poster said, manual exercise, or stretching is where you’ll find this faster.

I noticed in the pump that I’m about a half inch shorter than my bpel. I don’t know why but it seems to be a pretty common phenomenon. What I have noticed however is that when I started pumping I would only reach about 7.5” (my tube has a tape measure on the side) now I get up to 7.75”. Therefore, something has changed in the last couple of months since I’m now hitting 7.75 in the tube. When I hit 8” in the tube I’ll post an update but I wouldn’t be too concerned if it seems like your length is less than it should be in the tube. Mark where you are at and in 1 to 2 months see if it has gone further up. Best of luck.


Starting Measurements 03/03/2012: BPEL: 7.30" MSEG: 5.100"

Previous Measurement 11/19/2012: BPEL: 7.90" MSEG: 5.250"

Current Measurements 01/08/2013: BPEL: 8.0" MSEG: 5.250"

Goal: BPEL: 8.25" MSEG: 6.250" <-- Just a bit above the magic | How I'm getting there --> Routine and progress with pics

Originally Posted by The Eggs
The only reason I’m doing what I’m doing is because someone linked this here so I followed its advice: https://www.pumptoys.com/lib/lib1ap.htm

I bought a gravel cleaner cylinder from Petco which is 1.5 inch diameter by 8-9 inches long. I stuck my penis in and started sucking the air out through the tube it came with and I’d immediately pack the edges of the cylinder and no more amount of air sucking got my penis to get long in the tube. I even tried putting the cylinder on when erect and couldn’t fit the cylinder at all.

On my next pumping session, I’ll do a full 20 minutes (i’ll reach 30 minutes eventually, I’m working my way there via avocet’s pumping routine thread) in the cylinder and see where it goes.

Grease the cock with olive oil or similar lube.

As it packs the sides to the head, over time it will start “earthworming” forward in the tube.

Eggs, a note about a past post from peforeal below about donut effect, I tried it and it works. It’s under the thread condom pumping.

Originally Posted by peforeal
penismith and avocet8,

I just got through reading this thread, and it made me think about some of what I’ve been doing lately.

I’ve already been wrapping a one-inch area below my glans covering my circumcision scar whenever I pump. I use the ace self-adhesive bandage which grips and holds extremely well, rather than a condom. I do this to prevent any kind of donut in that area, to which I am susceptible.

The question is what would happen if I wrapped my entire shaft first and then pumped, thus preventing fluid buildup under the skin while forcing all of the pressure from pumping to be more internal? I’m going to become my own guinea pig this week, and report back to all of you later.

I already have good results with what I’ve been doing, so another question will be if wrapping more of the shaft while pumping will work the entire shaft in terms of making gains.

I love a good science experiment!

Later,
Peforeal

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