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Packing may contribute to girth gains.

Packing may contribute to girth gains.

I have also adressed this in the condom pumping thread but didn’t get a response, so I will try my luck with a new thread. Condom pumping seems to give very good expansion post pumping, and this may also be beneficial for girth gains. It seems that the condom actually increases pressure inside the penis, as the penis is unable to expand as much when a condom is used. When the condom is removed the penis compensates by expanding more.

Some of the pumping gainers (eg. Peforeal) have reported that the best gains have come at the base, which is also the part that is usually packing the tube. I am wondering if the packing is causing high pressures by prohibiting girth expansion of the penis, much like condom pumping does. Of course the penis is still able to expand in length, but this may not be enough eliminate the effects of the prohibited girth expansion. If this is the case it might be the reason why many pumpers experience their best gains at the base, where packing mostly occurs.

Furthermore it might explain the overall phenomenal gains that Peforeal has made (he is my hero hehe). His sessions have consisted of pumping until packing and then moving a cylinder size up. When the packing is stopped the post pumping expansion occurs, due to the mechanisms mentioned above. As the pumping continues with a larger cylinder this expansion is enhanced and may contribute to increased girth gains.

What do you guys think? :)

Interesting idea, Jambazz. I’ve wondered the same thing myself. I’ve never had a cylinder I could pack with normal pressures. So I recently bought a 2.25” tapered Kaplan tube that I can pack. Should be interesting to see if the added pressure theory equals girth gains for me…

Can a too small cylinder be used with a larger one

This whole business of cylinder size and packing has become a real issue for me. I bought an LAPdist 1.75” X 9 tube based on their sizing chart. Unfortunately for me, I misread the chart and didn’t use my greatest girth. I measure 5.25” mid-shaft girth and based on that, went with the 1.75” tube. When I got the tube, I was kind of concerned that in my excitement, I had to struggle a little to get my chubby General into the tube. I figured I just needed more lube and determination. I got in and started pumping. Things went very slowly and by the time the gauge hit 5, I was feeling some pain and was concerned because my corona was squished and was dragging on the sides as I tried to increase my length. The edges of the corona were kind of a frost-bite white. Well, as you have already probably figured out, when I start to get an erection, my corona becomes almost 7” around. So there I was, not fully lengthened, but totally packed in. I sent an email to LAPdist who told me not to use the tube any more, but to order a 2” or perhaps even 2.25” tube. Now I am concerned because I don’t want to have to deal with my scrotum being sucked into the tube because I do have a pretty fleshy scrotum. I was wondering what size tube you more experienced users might recommend and if maybe I could use the 1.75” tube to get started like Peforeal and then switch to the roomier tube. Or should I just not use the 1.75” tube at all? I really don’t want to get a deformed monstrosity like I see on some of the pumper sites. My wife, an R.N. Who worked in a hospital’s urology department for quite a while and saw a lot of penises, tells me I have a very attractive penis, and I would like to keep it that way, just larger. By the way, if it’s needed, my BPEL is 6.25”. I will appreciate any advice you can offer. Thanks, Donquixote

Originally Posted by Jambaz
I have also adressed this in the condom pumping thread but didn’t get a response, so I will try my luck with a new thread. Condom pumping seems to give very good expansion post pumping, and this may also be beneficial for girth gains. It seems that the condom actually increases pressure inside the penis, as the penis is unable to expand as much when a condom is used. When the condom is removed the penis compensates by expanding more.

Some of the pumping gainers (eg. Peforeal) have reported that the best gains have come at the base, which is also the part that is usually packing the tube. I am wondering if the packing is causing high pressures by prohibiting girth expansion of the penis, much like condom pumping does. Of course the penis is still able to expand in length, but this may not be enough eliminate the effects of the prohibited girth expansion. If this is the case it might be the reason why many pumpers experience their best gains at the base, where packing mostly occurs.

Furthermore it might explain the overall phenomenal gains that Peforeal has made (he is my hero hehe). His sessions have consisted of pumping until packing and then moving a cylinder size up. When the packing is stopped the post pumping expansion occurs, due to the mechanisms mentioned above. As the pumping continues with a larger cylinder this expansion is enhanced and may contribute to increased girth gains.

What do you guys think? :)

Not sure of your question.

If you’re asking if it sounds reasonable…yes. If you’re asking if this is the mechanism, we don’t have the resources to answer that with certainty…its anyones guess. If you’re asking if anyone else has found that to be true…I’ll let others respond to it.

I myself have started to experiment with the HTW (hair tie wrap) for just that very purpose. I believe it can work as good or better than a condom, and be tons cheaper. Thats just my theory, I’ll get back to you guys on the condom pumping thread if it has any validity.

ps I think you made a great choice of Peforeal…I think he is one of our unsung big time gainers with a really sound approach…CHEERS TO PEFOREAL!

Originally Posted by Jambaz
… I am wondering if the packing is causing high pressures by prohibiting girth expansion of the penis, much like condom pumping does. Of course the penis is still able to expand in length, but this may not be enough eliminate the effects of the prohibited girth expansion. If this is the case it might be the reason why many pumpers experience their best gains at the base, where packing mostly occurs.

Furthermore it might explain the overall phenomenal gains that Peforeal has made (he is my hero hehe). His sessions have consisted of pumping until packing and then moving a cylinder size up. When the packing is stopped the post pumping expansion occurs, due to the mechanisms mentioned above. As the pumping continues with a larger cylinder this expansion is enhanced and may contribute to increased girth gains.

What do you guys think? :)

Jambaz,

First of all thanks for the kind comments. I also agree with your conjecture. Based on all of the PE experimentation that I’ve done since 2001, I’m convinced that my great girth gains, especially on the bottom half of my shaft,are due to “packing” while pumping at low pressure for extended periods of time and with consistency. Because I have a natural tree-trunk shape which is bigger at the base, this is where I always get “packed” first and easily. So the lower part of my shaft always gets the best and longest workout when I’m in the tube and even when I move up in tube sizes. I have also made girth gains on the upper half of my shaft, but not to the extent that the lower half has achieved.

Peforeal


Forum Guidelines PAST: 5.25"L x 4.75"G (base),EBP (January 2001) / PRESENT: 7.50"L x 7.00G (base),EBP It doesn't happen overnight! Commitment! Focus! Patience!/ Main Routine = Pumping/Jelqing/clamping + Homedic TheraP or ACE Wrap TheraP or ACE Wrap

Originally Posted by Peforeal
First of all thanks for the kind comments. I also agree with your conjecture. Based on all of the PE experimentation that I’ve done since 2001, I’m convinced that my great girth gains, especially on the bottom half of my shaft,are due to “packing” while pumping at low pressure for extended periods of time and with consistency. Because I have a natural tree-trunk shape which is bigger at the base, this is where I always get “packed” first and easily. So the lower part of my shaft always gets the best and longest workout when I’m in the tube and even when I move up in tube sizes. I have also made girth gains on the upper half of my shaft, but not to the extent that the lower half has achieved.

Peforeal

What about pumping for length? I have read some threads and posts where people are trying to use a smaller cylinder to work length. This would also mean that they will be packing almost the entire penis, witch could contribute to more girth gains… In your opinion, Peforeal, do you think one could pump either for length or girth, or do you believe that it is random and that one should be happy with either gain?

Also, you say that you pumped for extended periods of time with consistency, does this mean that you pumped almost every day?

I have just started pumping and am picking up pearls from you pumping veterans every week now… The latest one is pumping with a electric heat pad around the cylinder that gprent advised…Loved it!

Originally Posted by babbis
What about pumping for length? I have read some threads and posts where people are trying to use a smaller cylinder to work length. This would also mean that they will be packing almost the entire penis, witch could contribute to more girth gains… In your opinion, Peforeal, do you think one could pump either for length or girth, or do you believe that it is random and that one should be happy with either gain?

Also, you say that you pumped for extended periods of time with consistency, does this mean that you pumped almost every day?

I have just started pumping and am picking up pearls from you pumping veterans every week now… The latest one is pumping with a electric heat pad around the cylinder that gprent advised…Loved it!

babbis,

I did pump specifically for length in the early days using my 1.75” cylinder, until I got too thick. I got most of my length gains this way. I love the incremental progress I was making , but I believe I have maxxed out on making length gains via pumping, even using my 2” and larger cylinders. Permanent erect length gains just aren’t happening for me anymore via pumping. Now girth gains I believe are always possible with pumping.

I’ve never been an everyday pumper. I usually pump 3 -4 days on a good week. Sometimes it’s less, but rarely is it more. I do like to pump for at least an hour at a time though.

I’m glad you’re enjoying pumping. It is and will always be my favorite PE activity.

Peforeal


Forum Guidelines PAST: 5.25"L x 4.75"G (base),EBP (January 2001) / PRESENT: 7.50"L x 7.00G (base),EBP It doesn't happen overnight! Commitment! Focus! Patience!/ Main Routine = Pumping/Jelqing/clamping + Homedic TheraP or ACE Wrap TheraP or ACE Wrap

My experience has been that packing is important to increases in both length and girth. If you are simply floating in a too large tube, you’ll get a lot of fluid buildup and some strange shaping. The challenge is that tubes only come in .25 inch diameter increments which by the factor of pi in relation to circumference means that you make a pretty big leap switching from one to the next (over .75”). I pack a 1.75” in a few minutes, but a 2” takes a very long time and there is significant lymph buildup instead of more solid tissue.

My solution is to take a 1.875” ID gravel tube and cut that to length of my 2” tube which it’s OD fits perfectly. I then use a silicone sleeve and cover the end for comfort. With this setup I can pack the 1.75” tube and then move to 1.875” which is a smaller increment. As I get solid in 1.875” I can move to 2”.

Originally Posted by brianrex
Interesting idea, Jambazz. I’ve wondered the same thing myself. I’ve never had a cylinder I could pack with normal pressures. So I recently bought a 2.25” tapered Kaplan tube that I can pack. Should be interesting to see if the added pressure theory equals girth gains for me…


I also have a tapered cylinder and hope that packing will mean good girth gains for me. After packing the tapered cylinder I move up in cylinder size to take advantage of the increased post pumping expansion.

Originally Posted by Donquixote
I was wondering what size tube you more experienced users might recommend and if maybe I could use the 1.75” tube to get started like Peforeal and then switch to the roomier tube. Or should I just not use the 1.75” tube at all?


Maybe you can buy a larger cylinder with a rubber seal at the base, to avoid your scrotum being sucked in? Or wear a cockring or clamp around your ballsac while pumping, which should prevent your balls being sucked into the tube.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
If you’re asking if it sounds reasonable…yes. If you’re asking if this is the mechanism, we don’t have the resources to answer that with certainty…its anyones guess. If you’re asking if anyone else has found that to be true…I’ll let others respond to it.

I myself have started to experiment with the HTW (hair tie wrap) for just that very purpose. I believe it can work as good or better than a condom, and be tons cheaper. Thats just my theory, I’ll get back to you guys on the condom pumping thread if it has any validity.

Yes, I wanted to hear other PE’ers’ opinion on this.
Sounds interesting with the HTW, how is it working so far?

Originally Posted by Peforeal
Jambaz,

First of all thanks for the kind comments. I also agree with your conjecture. Based on all of the PE experimentation that I’ve done since 2001, I’m convinced that my great girth gains, especially on the bottom half of my shaft,are due to “packing” while pumping at low pressure for extended periods of time and with consistency. Because I have a natural tree-trunk shape which is bigger at the base, this is where I always get “packed” first and easily. So the lower part of my shaft always gets the best and longest workout when I’m in the tube and even when I move up in tube sizes. I have also made girth gains on the upper half of my shaft, but not to the extent that the lower half has achieved.

Peforeal


Thanks for your input, after reading about your routines and progress I was also suspecting that packing was contributing to your gains.

One thing which no one mentioned was to lube the whole of the inside of the cylinder. If I don’t do this I get stuck, and it’s painful. Do the cylinder and it just slides in. Hope that helps.

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