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My Pump and Clamp Combo

My Pump and Clamp Combo

WARNING: DO NOT try this if you have very little experience with penis enlargement or have a tendency to get crazy and overdo your exercises. You have been warned.

Hey guys,

I have been experimenting for a short time with a combination of water pumping and clamping. I water pump and use a simple tourniquet as my method. Water pumping (as you can read under other threads) reduces the amount of lymph (up to a point) that you experience with air only. With the tourniquet wrapped tightly at the base I get the same restriction of blood flow as clamping but have constant pressure from the pump for continuous engorgement. I notice even less lymph also as another benefit of adding the tourniquet. I have not been doing it very long but the results look really promising. Post here if you give it a try and report if you have any results. I am listing the tourniquet material below. Good luck and be safe.

McKesson 63352500 Tourniquet Band On Roll

I’m surprised to hear you get less edema with constriction.
When I toyed around with this a few months ago I got significantly more fluid retention (as would be expected).
I don’t see the point of placing the constriction at the base, though. The constriction itself doesn’t contribute anything that a stronger vacuum wouldn’t. I’d say the most likely benefit is from the deformation that the tourniquet causes in the tunica. If I were to pick it up again, I’d keep the constriction (cockring in my case) at midshaft.

(I didn’t do it long enough for a proper evaluation - other things got in the way)

edit: Forgot to put this in.
I do think this is potentially a very effective technique. The stress between a restricted area of the shaft and an unrestricted area next to it being pulled outward by the vacuum would create the most direct girthwise “stretch” I can imagine from any of the common PE exercises (this could very well be the same reason jelqing works).


Last edited by Serenity73 : 03-18-2014 at .

I’m surprised to hear you get less edema with constriction.
When I toyed around with this a few months ago I got significantly more fluid retention (as would be expected).
I don’t see the point of placing the constriction at the base, though. The constriction itself doesn’t contribute anything that a stronger vacuum wouldn’t. I’d say the most likely benefit is from the deformation that the tourniquet causes in the tunica. If I were to pick it up again, I’d keep the constriction (cockring in my case) at midshaft.

►>>>>>>That is interesting but the material that I use I would bet is way more constricting than the ring you are using. If I don’t have a semi when I put the tourniquet around I can hardly get any blood flow in kegeling or with the pump. My theory on the edema is that the tourniqet is so tight that I constricts the skin more than the tunica. As for the constriction it does hold the expansion that has happened and retains it better. Just think about most of the guys that try to maintain erections while pumping to keep internal pressure up instead of only receiving external vacuum pressures. That external pressure is the reason edema happens anyway.

edit: Forgot to put this in.
I do think this is potentially a very effective technique. The stress between a restricted area of the shaft and an unrestricted area next to it being pulled outward by the vacuum would create the most direct girthwise “stretch” I can imagine from any of the common PE exercises (this could very well be the same reason jelqing works).

►>>>>>>> I have thought of this also but have not been doing it long enough to have anecdotal evidence worth mentioning. If I do see that happening I will definitely move the positioning to see if I can get the same results. I am all about efficiency and in my opinion this is the easiest way to achieve expansion for girth and possibly for some length. Hopefully I can dedicate enough time and get enough privacy to see how this goes. Thanks for the reply Serenity73!

I think I need to clarify how I wrap the tourniquet. The bands are 18 inches long and 3/4 inch wide. I tightly wind the whole length around the base and tuck in the end to itself. This is done while I have a 50-70% erection then I pump up to 100%.

Ah, I see. That is indeed different from what I was doing.

Looking forward to hearing your results with this.

I do wonder, though, why do you expect this to be different than just raising the vacuum strength? It seems to me the end result is just an increase in pressure inside the superficial blood vessels (with a higher risk of discoloration).

Experienced the same with constriction in the waterpump. Less edema and a good stretch.
But it is more intense and more injury prone I think.

Try to wrap your head while pumping. (Dickerschwanz pumped shaft blaster over at mos ^^ )
It will lessen the edema too.

I somehow think that the lymph(?) fluids from the edema might not only originate from the shaft itself but are pulled from inside the body..

Serenity,

I don’t have an overly technical process/theory and no great analogy for it either! :P It just makes sense that if internal pressure is the ultimate goal for permanent expansion of the tunica then this is the best way I can get at it. When I pump and lose erection without constriction, there is constant internal force in the opposite direction of the vacuum, therefore putting all the burden on the epidermis to deform to the pressure (thus the donut effect). Constriction keeps me from having to maintain that internal pressure at a steady constant.

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
Experienced the same with constriction in the waterpump. Less edema and a good stretch.
But it is more intense and more injury prone I think.

Try to wrap your head while pumping. (Dickerschwanz pumped shaft blaster over at mos ^^ )
It will lessen the edema too.

I somehow think that the lymph(?) fluids from the edema might not only originate from the shaft itself but are pulled from inside the body..

Yes, I do think this could lead to an injury if done with extreme caution. Therefore my initial warning.

Also, I have the same thought that “lymph” is pulled from outside the pump and into the skin experiencing vacuum. How I roughly measure the amount of internal expansion is by pinching the skin afterward to see how swollen it is and then measuring the circumference. When using the tourniquet it is nearly as thin as before pumping and I am seeing an increase in girth. Whereas before I would have expansion in girth but unable to tell how much was lymph and how much was internal expansion because of the extra girth of the swelling.

I am excited about this technique and hesitated to call it something groundbreaking but believe it could be. I don’t know of another member/thread that has created this combo and have been reading here a while.

It’s an interesting approach but I think you’re working from a flawed basis. To my knowledge, edema is caused when the vessels “leak” fluid due to overpressure. It’s not a pumping specific phenomenon (also easily occurs with constriction exercises). I’m not sure that using constriction in a pump does much else than increase the pressure in the veins. And that wouldn’t be very useful.

Drainage from the CCs gets blocked (or slowed dramatically) when they inflate - that’s how the erection is maintained. Once you’re pumped past a certain point, you basically have a full blown erection. It’s only if your erection is less than 100% (vacuum induced or not) that you would need constriction to maintain it. In other words, you could increase the internal pressure with constriction if you’re pumping at low pressure (probably <5”Hg). But the end result isn’t much different from just increasing the vacuum strength. If you’re already pumping beyond the limit for a full erection, I don’t think the constriction will change the pressure inside the tunica much.

Although, I suppose it’s possible that the vacuum pulling the tunica outwards actually impairs the normal vein obstruction from the CCs, in which case there may be merit to manually blocking the outflow.. and now I’m rambling. Point is, I’m interested, keep us posted!


Last edited by Serenity73 : 03-20-2014 at .

I definitely will try to keep an update here on this post.

Thank you for the input. The reason that I have always thought “lymph” to be caused by fluid pulled from the body (outside the pump) is that I don’t recall getting it when clamping. I have done some extended clamping sets and not seen any significant buildup. Which exercises in particular and what duration causes the problem for you Serenity?

Another thing that I may be leaving out is that I have not stayed constricted in the pump for more that 15 minutes and have only done 1 set at a time. Maybe one in the morning and one at night if privacy permits. I don’t think that I will change that either as this technique is too dangerous to push beyond that for my comfort. So my “data” needs to reflect that.

Results will be the main factor and I am going to give it 3 months to see how much is gained and whether the technique is advantageous enough to pass along to the rest of you guys.

I am seeing good progress with this technique. Almost zero lymph and a healthy amount of expansion that is happening in the 3 chambers. 24 hours after each session PI’s are staying up and so is the girth.

Anytime I ever tried any sort of pumping w/ constriction, I would get a crazy amount of red spots, so I don’t do it.


Start: (Aug 2001): 6 1/2 bpel x 4 7/8 mseg

Current: (6/24/14): 7 3/4 bpel (7 nbp) x 5 5/8 mseg. BEG 6 1/4. BPFSL 8 1/8.

Goals: First: 7 1/2 bpel x 5 1/2 mseg ACHIEVED! Current Goal: 7 nbp x 5 3/4 mseg (almost there!)

WantToBeThick, are you water pumping or air? I have only experience a few dots with this technique unlike when I was clamping only. Water pumping is something that you should try if you haven’t. The pull is so much different because of the physics behind it and is more gentle for me.

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