Is this how you pump?

I’ve had a pump since summer, but I feel like I’m finally getting to know how it is supposed to be used. Now I lube up my dick, lube up the cylinder, get a hard as I can, and then start fucking the tube without pumping. I fuck the tube which sort of sucks back when I pull my cock out of it until I pack the bottom. When I pack the bottom without pumping at all and I can’t pull the cylinder off easily due to the suction, I keep fucking the tube with the suction and concentrate on porn until I’m about to come and right when I approach the PONR, thats when I pump and let the cylinder slip over me with every pump until my penis is as deep in the tube as it can go. Also rotate the cylinder to make sure it slides all the way to the hilt. I pump to about 5hg, and wait about 5 minutes trying to keep myself as close to the PONR as possible. If I feel like my body isn’t pumping blood in and the suction is the only thing keeping me hard, I release the pressure and get rock hard again, then when I”m about to ejaculate I pump again. After the 5 minutes or so I stop. This technique has been giving me better eq and I finally feel like I’m expanding in the tube properly. The only problem is it’s REALLY hard not to ejaculate, sometimes I come in the tube. If I just get hard without approaching the ponr, at the end of 5 minutes my “erection” is floppy, and there’s little blood in the base of my cock. It’s just an artificial fake erection. If I pump soft it’s even worse, and feels like just lymph.

Is this how people make gains?

Abso-freaken-lutely not. Buddy you are putting way to much thought into this and stress on yourself. Allow me to share my no fail methods.

First off you will need to warm up for about ten minutes with any prefered method, they are all go so you cant fail either way. Then take about a just enough lube to wet yourself from base to head with emphasis on the head.

Now I recommend once a month you get yourself to 100% EQ, insert yourself in the tube with the relief valve pressed on the handle, and push the tube against your pubic bone. Now either mark or tape the tube where the very tip of your penis ends. This will service as a guide for pressure when pumping.

Normally there is absolutely no need to “fuck the tube” you may enter with a slight erection or completely flaccid(in which you will need to build up negative pressure more slowly). Before you begin pull slightly on your scrotum to prevent your testes from being sucked in yo the tube by accident. Now begin pumping slowly over the course of 20-30 seconds. Once you have reached a max of 5hg you can disconnect the hand pump from the tube via the quick disconnect but this method may prevent you from noticing a loss in pressure. I suggest you stick with the hand pump so you can tweak the pressure if need be.

Now as far as timing goes this is highly debated on Thunder’s Place but I highly suggest you stick with 5-10 as a noob to pumping and never go above 15min or 5hg (the tourniquet standard). If you find this too easy you can try to hold a kegel during the entire time which is not an easy task.

Remember to stay relaxed while pe’ing and listen to your body. If you get panicked or stressed the endorphins your body releases may prevent you from being able to distinguish between a good stretch and a serious injury until it’s too late hours after everything has work off.

I highly recommend you go through the Vacuum Pumping 101 forum BEFORE you do ANY sort of pumping again. If you have already do it again. I say this for safety’s sake as we don’t want to hear about you or anyone else seriously injuring themselves. You only have one dick and one life so any amount of prevention and research put in is justified. This site if filled with useful information about pumping as well as experienced pumpers willing to help out.

Anyone else who pumps like I do? I much prefer fully erect pumping.

Sounds a bit insane to me. Have you actually made any gains pumping like this?

To reiterate, I warm up in the shower and then spend approximately 10 minutes with a rice sock. I pump 5 minutes at 5HG, and enter erect. I do no more than 2 sets of 5 minutes on any day. Nothing groundbreaking. I know it’s tempting to jump on the bandwagon of the first two replies but there is nothing insane or dangerous about my routine. At least nothing more dangerous than clamping for example. My PIs and EQ are great. As to Rooster’s question, no permanent gains yet as I’ve only been doing this for about 2 weeks, but even if gains don’t come I’m perfectly content with the EQ it brings. Since starting this I’ve gotten morning wood back for the first time in years. I do manual stretching, jelqs, light reverse jelqs, and cable clamping for gains as well so I’ll take or leave the gains from the pump.

I know there are others who enter the pump erect, I’m just curious if there’s anyone else who edges close to the PONR like me, to get to a FULL erection before pumping to ensure I’m expanding the penis just slightly beyond where it expands during a non-pumped erection. Literally the only drawback is when I ejaculate in the tube, but when that happens I just release the pressure immediately. I can tell I’ve hit the PONR long before the ejaculation process actually occurs.

For those wondering, my routine is

Day 1: Newbie routine
Day 2: Cable Clamp 2x5 mins (I make sure to get completely flaccid in between and start over with new blood)
Pumping 2x5 mins (completely flaccid in between)
50x5second kegels.
Day 3: Rest (1 5 minute pump set if I feel like it)
Repeat.

Not a routine I would do without a PE-conditioned dick mind you.

Is the blood under the skin or is it from cut skin?

Haha hi Joe. I can see the sentence that gave you that idea, to clarify I said “There’s little blood.” Not “There’s a little blood.” meaning that when I pump without edging just before, when I finish the pump set there is not a lot of blood packing the base of my penis (the inner penis not in the tube). In other words my penis externally looks like a full floppy erection, but the inner penis that runs along the pelvic floor isn’t full of blood at all, so it’s like a temporary baseball bat effect. I don’t like that, I like for the penis to expand uniformly. Thus far edging before and during the pump set is the only way I’ve achieved this. Rest assured I’m not bleeding at any time during the process :D