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Originally Posted by Unicorn762
Hello skitola. Please ask yourself WHY you are so desperately seeking fast gains. Then ask yourself what you really want more;
a) a dick that is approximately the size already got, but gives more reliable performance during the entire intercourse session with your lovely gf;
— or —
b) a slightly bigger dick that doesn’t work very well for intercourse but looks more impressive to the guys at the gym.

If you choose alternative b), just continue what you are doing but be more persistent. Follow the advice provided in this thread and throughout Thundersplace so you are not causing irreparable damage to your penis.

If you choose alternative a) you must be much more careful with your penis, more importantly your mind, and most importantly you need to understand the connection between the two. Stop thinking you are inadequate when making love with your gf, and/or stop being afraid that she thinks you are. Be confident that girls are perfectly happy with that size (or smaller/bigger for that matter) if used with love by her loved one.

It does not hurt of course to acquire some lover skills extravaganza over time, but the more you can let go of your images of “sexual performance”, being “rock hard” etc, the more you will find that the problems gradually disappear. Quit thinking about whether or not your dick is hard enough. Think about her instead, her lovely body, her soft fragrance, drown in her eyes, do what lovers do. You will have a much better experience and your body will catch on.

PE may not be good for you in that it focusses your mind on your dick, and makes you keep that focus even when you are getting intimate with your gf. PE means Penis Enhancement, for many people it also carries the implicit notion that it is not sufficiently good in its present condition - “why else does he try to make it bigger?”, the mind thinks. That kind of thinking hurts the lovemaking machinery, it literally haunts you into the bedroom if you don’t watch out. If you are able to see through this mechanism you can actively break it.

On the other hand. with the right mind-set PE can be helpful to enhance physical aspects of the penile functioning; to reinforce the hydraulic plumbing, to fine-tune the programming of autonomous sensor systems, etc. Exercises like kegels can be very effective for erection quality and endurance, very low risk of injury if any. Careful jelqing can also be helpful if you avoid high erection levels and pressure against the dorsal nerve. Edging-ballooning helps maintaining a high yet controlled level of pleasure for longer, here the risks are higher but can be controlled with careful training practices.

All this can be very helpful and fun when making love but I think you really must understand how to control your mind to begin with, IMHO.

Best of luck!

Unicorn762! off course I choose a)

I don’t think that I’m inadequate when I fuck my girl. I really enjoy her superbody and everything.
My dick just loose erection without me thinking that it will.
I have always had this problem a little bit, but when I do PE it gets big. I mean the problem
gets really big.

But as you write, I really have one problem when I fuck. I need to be rockhard to be able to fuck.
When I look at porn there is a lot of guys that fucks with 90% erection or less. I don’t understand how
they can do that. If my dick not is 100% rockhard I don’t feel manly.
If I fuck my girl with a 80 to 90% erection she likes it, but when I fuck here with 100% rockhard erection
she goes absolutely wild. This does not help me so to speak.

I will cut down on my PE. I just don’t know how much to cut down yet and what exercises to do.


2005-07-01 - 7,5 x 5,5 Starting 2005-09-20 - 7,7 x 5,5 goal - 8,0 x 6,3

Originally Posted by Monty530
Skit you really need to understand that pumping is a waste of time. When the fluid is reabsorbed there is no gain and that fact will remain even after years of pumping. Ask some of the long time pumpers. They don’t gain a thing. but one is for sure you better not abuse clamping or your going to blow veins.

A lack of self control and discipline to stick to a routine will only lead to penile damage. You can’t hurry tissue growth but you can distroy what you have. Better get a grip.

I will try to get a grip. That is why I started this thread. I really want to get a grip.

You really have made some amazing gains I must say!!

But about the pumping. Peforeal for example, has gotten a lot of gains from much pumping and a
little bit of jelqing. He has gone from something like 5girth to 7,25girth.

What is your program? I really like to know since your gains are so HUGE!


2005-07-01 - 7,5 x 5,5 Starting 2005-09-20 - 7,7 x 5,5 goal - 8,0 x 6,3

I’m hanging 9 to 11 pounds and use an ADS daily. My girth has kind of come long for the ride but I’ve just about met my length goals so now I’m adding some clamping for girth and hope my length continues.

I’ve got a new product coming out in the next few weeks that will do away with mechanical clamps. Watch the Review Forum.


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11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

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Originally Posted by skitola11
5 min clamping with a homemaderubbercockring that is super thight.
20 min pumping with this cockring on.

I think you should abandon this practice. Super tight cock rings hurt your veins and cut off blood flow. Your cock function is all about max blood flow. Cock rings should only be slightly smaller then your actual size or just tight enough to work effectively.

Yes, I think you can do 3X15 minute routines every day.

My routine is actually 45 minutes every day without ever coming out of the tube, but with a lot of buts.

Every 5 minutes I reduce the pressure to .5-1.0”hg for about 30 seconds. Even though I pump to up to 5 or even 6”hg, I never hold that pressure very long. I let it naturally bleed off down to 3 or 4 and then go back up. Constantly fluctuating the pressure is very good.

I keep the tube pretty much constantly moving and that seems to help prevent any discoloration and fluid build up. You can milk the tube at high pressure. You just need very short light strokes, enough to move the pressure needle about 1”hg or less. Just pulling up on the tube so it is not pressed so tight against your crotch is also good. I also rock the tube back and forth which keeps the pressure of the tube variable where it seats at the base. All of this tube movement ensures blood flow is not cut off where the tube seals at the base.

So, keeping the tube moving and using a variable pressure, with a pressure relief every 5 minutes is the secret to longer times in the tube.

As BG mentioned, other techniques I always use are wrapping the tube in an electric heat pad and holding a vibrator against the tube.

I don’t think you should pump while wearing a cock ring, but at the end of your set, put one on that is not so tight :) and do an erect massage for at least 5 minutes.

One thing is for sure. The best way to pump is not just sit there and do nothing.


Last edited by gprent : 01-08-2006 at .

Originally Posted by Monty530
I’m hanging 9 to 11 pounds and use an ADS daily. My girth has kind of come long for the ride but I’ve just about met my length goals so now I’m adding some clamping for girth and hope my length continues.

I’ve got a new product coming out in the next few weeks that will do away with mechanical clamps. Watch the Review Forum.

I have never really tried to hang. I have only hanged with 3lb. Not more.
I must say that it feels dangerous to hang. It feels like it is very easy to hurt one self
if not the equipment is very good.

congrats on your gains and thanks for the answer :)


2005-07-01 - 7,5 x 5,5 Starting 2005-09-20 - 7,7 x 5,5 goal - 8,0 x 6,3

Originally Posted by gprent
I think you should abandon this practice. Super tight cock rings hurt your veins and cut off blood flow. Your cock function is all about max blood flow. Cock rings should only be slightly smaller then your actual size or just tight enough to work effectively.

Yes, I think you can do 3X15 minute routines every day.

My routine is actually 45 minutes every day without ever coming out of the tube, but with a lot of buts.

Every 5 minutes I reduce the pressure to .5-1.0”hg for about 30 seconds. Even though I pump to up to 5 or even 6”hg, I never hold that pressure very long. I let it naturally bleed off down to 3 or 4 and then go back up. Constantly fluctuating the pressure is very good.

I keep the tube pretty much constantly moving and that seems to help prevent any discoloration and fluid build up. You can milk the tube at high pressure. You just need very short light strokes, enough to move the pressure needle about 1”hg or less. Just pulling up on the tube so it is not pressed so tight against your crotch is also good. I also rock the tube back and forth which keeps the pressure of the tube variable where it seats at the base. All of this tube movement ensures blood flow is not cut off where the tube seals at the base.

So, keeping the tube moving and using a variable pressure, with a pressure relief every 5 minutes is the secret to longer times in the tube.

As BG mentioned, other techniques I always use are wrapping the tube in an electric heat pad and holding a vibrator against the tube.

I don’t think you should pump while wearing a cock ring, but at the end of your set, put one on that is not so tight :) and do an erect massage for at least 5 minutes.

One thing is for sure. The best way to pump is not just sit there and do nothing.

When I pumped with a cockring on, that was a one time thing. I have never tried it before.
And ok, I will not do it again.

Do you only pump or do you also jelq or something like that?
What are your gains?

If it is ok to only pump then I can do that, but if I should do other thing, what do you
then think about doing something like this:

5 min ricesock(heat)

10 min clamp.

1 min ricesock

5 minpump with 4hg
1 min jelq

5 minpump with 5hg
1 min jelq

5 minpump with 5hg
1 min jelq

5 minpump with 5hg
1 min jelq

5 minpump with 5hg
1 min jelq

5 minpump with 5hg
1 min jelq

And when I pump I will jelk the tube.

Ps. I have always pump just sitting there doing nothing. That is probably why I have
never gotten any results from pumping, even though I have pumped very much.


2005-07-01 - 7,5 x 5,5 Starting 2005-09-20 - 7,7 x 5,5 goal - 8,0 x 6,3

I think it would be more effective to pump for like 15 minutes and jelq for 5 and repeat this 2 or 3 times. But whenever pumping, instead of trying to hold a steady pressure, cycle the pressure up and down slowly.

I think it is a good idea to always end with an erect massage.

Originally Posted by gprent
I think it would be more effective to pump for like 15 minutes and jelq for 5 and repeat this 2 or 3 times. But whenever pumping, instead of trying to hold a steady pressure, cycle the pressure up and down slowly.

I think it is a good idea to always end with an erect massage.

Today I did this:
5 min ricesock
15 min pumping at 5hg, milking all the time
5 min massage
15 min pumping at 5hg, milking all the time
5 min massage

when I milk the tube the pressure goes up to 6hg then down to 4hg on every stroke.

I was at least 90% hard in the tube all of the time. At the end of both sessions I was at least 95% hard. I felt very different from just pumping when I’m flacid in the cylinder. The dick looks just as big but it feels much harder on the dick when I milk.


2005-07-01 - 7,5 x 5,5 Starting 2005-09-20 - 7,7 x 5,5 goal - 8,0 x 6,3

I did the same program today. 2x15 min pumping and milking the tube all the time.

today it went even better! I was almost 100% hard in the tube at least 95% of the time.

I get pretty much fluidbuildup in the skin from this program. is that ok?

It was easier for me today to get a hard erection. that is new for me. It is always the

other way. second day of PE and it is usually harder to get hard.

It will be very exiting to see where this will end :)


2005-07-01 - 7,5 x 5,5 Starting 2005-09-20 - 7,7 x 5,5 goal - 8,0 x 6,3

skitola11, is your gauge accurate as you said you could not milk the tube at 5.0 hg. I wonder because I can easily do that

If you like girth and overdoing, try pumping in a 3” diameter tube, morning afternoon and evening in warm water at a pressure which does not pull your dick to more than your current lenght. Do up to 9, 20 minute sessions for a total 180 minute pumping and jelq between sessions: you’ll increase your girth, man!

gprent, when you milk the tube and pump at 4hg in pressure, how high pressure do you
reach when milking? Right now I pump at 5h and reach at most 7hg on a milk stroke. Usually
I reach about 6hg at a milkstroke.

jj65, I can milk at 5hg.

buby, when you do that, don’t you get supermuch fluidbuildup then?


2005-07-01 - 7,5 x 5,5 Starting 2005-09-20 - 7,7 x 5,5 goal - 8,0 x 6,3

Skitola 11

As you see the swelling starts, you stop and jelq for five minutes, and start again: fluid cannot buildup.

hope it helps

Skitola11,
I am addressing your soft erections issue. You mentioned above that you train both cardio and weights 6 times per week.
As a (somehow experienced) weightlifter I am advising you not to do more than 3-4 days per week weights exercises. I used to train 6 days per week but this led to overtraining very easily.

Overtraining has some bad effects like depression, always tired, bad sleeping, soft erections and premature ejaculation.

I recommend you focus on the multi joint exercises (Squat, Deadlift, Bench Press, Pullups, Barbell Rows, etc..) which will make you produce more testorone naturally.

Also the cardio I would recommend 3 times per week for 30 mins, not more.

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