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Flaccid pumping?

I’ve been playing with pumps the last month or so. I started with an old tube I had forgotten. It wasn’t very comfortable, so I ditched it in favor of a Long Johnny tube I just got. Much more comfortable, once I got over feeling like vaccum was crushing my nuts. (Strange that it felt that way, but vacuum felt like heavy pressure at first.)

My first question is about pumping erect vs flaccid. I’ve done both, and I feel like going in flaccid gives me more girth expansion and not so much length, while starting erect I get more length, but still get some girth. More than anything I’m pumping for girth.

What Ive been doin is 10-15 minutes flaccid pump at 4-5 hg, 100 slow jelqs, then 10-15 minutes erect pumping at 4-5 hg and 100 slow jelqs. I’m keeping it closer to 20 -25 minutes in tube total - longer gets my balls too big in comparison to my dick. Great for the bulge, by definitely looks better in underwear than without. I’m doing that about 5 times a week.

If any of you guys have suggestions to what could work better, I’m all ears.


“I was like, Am I gay? Am I straight? And I realized...I'm just slutty. Where's my parade? What about slut pride?”

― Margaret Cho

I’m guessing you’ve found the Vacuum Pumping 101 thread nmt. There is a fair bit about the preference of most guys here for going into the tube erect. I find going in flaccid gives more fluid buildup sooner. I usually prefer to go in with about a three quarter erection, but tend to get fully erect as soon as I start pumping anyway. I’ve never tried pumping my balls, and don’t think I will.


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My take on it is pumping gains come from stretching the tunica via increased blood pressure.

If you don’t have an erection you don’t limit outflow of blood so it’s very difficult to build internal pressure without resorting to high vacuum levels.

I’ve also found that flaccid pumping just tends to give fluid build up.

I get by far the best expansion with a decent erection and low vac levels.

I’ll try to be erect going into the tube. The process of getting into it is distracting enough for me to start to lose it, but I can be at least partially erect.


“I was like, Am I gay? Am I straight? And I realized...I'm just slutty. Where's my parade? What about slut pride?”

― Margaret Cho

Originally Posted by northmiamitop
I’ll try to be erect going into the tube. The process of getting into it is distracting enough for me to start to lose it, but I can be at least partially erect.

A good way to combat this is to sort-of mix edging and pumping. I usually edge for about 5-10 minutes before I go into the pump for the first time. Once I get below 90% (or my arousal has faded) I pull out of the tube and regain full erection. At first I’ll only be able to stay in 30-60 secs before I start to lose arousal, but as the session goes on I can stay in there up to 3 minutes with full arousal (as erect as possible without busting a nut) and I get great expansion. You can twist or wiggle the cylinder to stimulate yourself some.

You will definitely get more expansion with less Hg by doing erect pumping. The more erect, the more you will really feel the expansion happening.


Last edited by eow123 : 11-01-2012 at .

Thanks for the advice. I have been pumping erect and enjoying the results but I’m over doing it. I’ve had poor eq a couple times, though honestly I was quite drunk when it happened. Still I feel like I need to back off.

When I was doing PE seriously my best outcome was 2 days off 1 on. I think pumping feels more gentle than what I was doing so for now I’ll just pump and edge, stop jelqing and see where that goes. I think jelqs help though, so I’ll do them a few times a week.


“I was like, Am I gay? Am I straight? And I realized...I'm just slutty. Where's my parade? What about slut pride?”

― Margaret Cho

Edging 5-10 min before entering the pump is great for maximum erection.. Then it’s a lots of variations you can do when pumping. I do 5*3 min pumping and jelqing 5 min between pumping sessions with some ulis squeezes in my jelq session, 80-90% erect.. And my last 5 min pumping I edge in the pump to, start at 3hg first min then up to 4hg 30 sec down to 3hg again 30 sec and up to 5hg 30sec down to 4hg and so on and end at 7hg 30 sec and down at the end 5hg then release.. Don’t forget kegels when pumping so you can stay at your hg levels.. Then cock ring after..

But if you not can handle the the high hg levels, start lower..

Take care!


Starting size: 7.48" X 5.51" Currently: 10.1" X 6.4"

Heat is the key!

Just been edging and pumping. That makes a huge difference. I’ll keep with that and see if jelqing or stretching (not both) on alternate days works. But since I stopped jelqing every day, I have tremendous erections all night, and more than I’d like during the day.


“I was like, Am I gay? Am I straight? And I realized...I'm just slutty. Where's my parade? What about slut pride?”

― Margaret Cho

How is it going with your pumping? :-)

Have you tried to do supersets, for the best results after your session?

For girth that’s perfect ;-)


Starting size: 7.48" X 5.51" Currently: 10.1" X 6.4"

Heat is the key!

I’m really new to pumping, actually using the Bathmate (BM). So far I like it alot, and I’ve been trying to figure out this same flaccid vs. Erect question as well. I started fully flaccid and have noticed that I feel better about my sessions the harder I enter the tube. Yesterday I tried with a full erection (probably 85%, which sadly for me is good) and had a great session, however even at the same pressure (fully compressed BM) I for the first time had a pretty substantial dick-hickey. I’ve noticed tiny red dots in the past, but these were everywhere and the size of freckles instead of pin-pricks.

I gave my dick a rest today, but anyone think this should be cause for concern or that I maybe going too hard? Each session is in the shower and typically for 15-20 minutes.

Yours Truly,
Me


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Started on: May 16, 2006 @ BPEL: 5.625 EG: 4.875 ||| Last measurment: Jan 1, 2014 @ BPEL: 6.5 EG: 5.25

Originally Posted by cfobus
I’m really new to pumping, actually using the Bathmate (BM). So far I like it alot, and I’ve been trying to figure out this same flaccid vs. Erect question as well. I started fully flaccid and have noticed that I feel better about my sessions the harder I enter the tube. Yesterday I tried with a full erection (probably 85%, which sadly for me is good) and had a great session, however even at the same pressure (fully compressed BM) I for the first time had a pretty substantial dick-hickey. I’ve noticed tiny red dots in the past, but these were everywhere and the size of freckles instead of pin-pricks.

I gave my dick a rest today, but anyone think this should be cause for concern or that I maybe going too hard? Each session is in the shower and typically for 15-20 minutes.

Yours Truly,
Me

Basically the better your erection the less pressure you need.
The blood pressure inside the penis is a combination of blood pressure plus negative pressure from the pump.
You’ll get used to adjusting pressure based on how good your erection is so try and avoid any red spots or bruises.

This was quite an interesting read regarding flaccid pumping inducing lymph build up. I do both water and air pump partially erect or flaccid without any noticeable lymph build up. However, I don’t want to create or enlarge existing lymph channels over the long term. I will shoot for 90% or more!


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I suffer from sever ED. Accordingly, I almost always enter the tube in a flaccid state. In fact, I use the pump in order to generate an erection which I maintain with a tight constriction band in order to have sex. Perhaps my dick now automatically reacts to the vacuum because withinin five minutes of being subjected to the vacuume it engorges into a full erection. Unfortunately, it deflates rather quickly back into a flaccid state once the vacuume is released.

Be that as it may, I have gained about .85” in girth over the four years I have been pumping. This morning I left the tube on for almost an hour at 4 to 5 hg and pleasured my wife with a 9 plus erection which was at least 1/4” thicker than my normal short term pumped erection.


Start 11/09 BPEL: 5.5", EG: 4.4"

Current. BPEL: 6:4", EG: 5.5"

Originally Posted by dtwarren1942
I suffer from sever ED. Accordingly, I almost always enter the tube in a flaccid state. In fact, I use the pump in order to generate an erection which I maintain with a tight constriction band in order to have sex. Perhaps my dick now automatically reacts to the vacuum because withinin five minutes of being subjected to the vacuume it engorges into a full erection. Unfortunately, it deflates rather quickly back into a flaccid state once the vacuume is released.

Be that as it may, I have gained about .85” in girth over the four years I have been pumping. This morning I left the tube on for almost an hour at 4 to 5 hg and pleasured my wife with a 9 plus erection which was at least 1/4” thicker than my normal short term pumped erection.

I wonder if you can do 1 hour at low to medium pressure in bathmate?
I have done 30 min without any issues.. and I know when I pass 30 minutes I expand over my erect girth. Air pumping you can go for 1 hour but never heard someone did 1 hour set in bathmate..

And yes, it’s wonderful pumping before sex :-)


Starting size: 7.48" X 5.51" Currently: 10.1" X 6.4"

Heat is the key!

Originally Posted by capernicus1
Basically the better your erection the less pressure you need.
The blood pressure inside the penis is a combination of blood pressure plus negative pressure from the pump.
You’ll get used to adjusting pressure based on how good your erection is so try and avoid any red spots or bruises.

Thanks!

I’ve been getting way better at this and try to go in a hard as possible, usually I’ll have really tiny red pinpricks when I’m done but they go away pretty quick. I kind of feel like it’s working when I see them, I imagine each pinprick as being a spot that just grew, so a million pinpricks later my dick will be huge! (At least that’s how I imagine it.)


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Started on: May 16, 2006 @ BPEL: 5.625 EG: 4.875 ||| Last measurment: Jan 1, 2014 @ BPEL: 6.5 EG: 5.25

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