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Bathmate Advice

Originally Posted by trynagrow
Seems like ur not a fan of it haha

Lol, Kingscounty is really against the device. I have personally used it, never had any problems at all other than some excess skin getting caught in it causing an accordion-like effect on my lower shaft area. Never caused bruising as mentioned here either, i cant imagine how to get that from this device, and I have pumped it as hard as it will possibly go at least a dozen times when I first started using it. Worst I got was discomfort like my glans was going to split, but overall, nothing happened. Of course, I’m now aware its highly un-reccommended but I did what I did, and its an experience to learn from.

I have used it in a routine previously but havent gotten any permanent gains from it. I do get the temp effect of it being around 0.4cm thicker for the rest of the day though, but when i wake up its always back to it original size.

Regarding its use, I tend to pump it now to what my BPEL is, and then a little more. I am not aware of the pressure as its obviously not got a guage, but it cant be so high because to reach my BPEL doesnt require much pressure anyway, to push against the soft fat pad; or at least thats my reasoning. I would be curious as to what the actual pressure is. This has been my method, but alas, as I said, no permanent gains.

I have the feeling some people will disagree with me, but I’m only talking from my own experience, not necessarily fact.

Hope this helped at all :)


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

I’m actually not completely against it LZ, I’m just not a fan of it. As a matter of fact I used it a couple hours ago and I’ve had no choice but to use it the past couple weeks. As I said in my post “use it when privacy is an issue” privacy is an issue for me during summer. I usually decon the whole month of July because of this besides needing one.

If the OP uses the search button he’ll get all the answers he needs on the bathmate and every other pump out there with all the pros and cons to each. The bathmate has been discussed too many times and most come to the same conclusion, it’s overpriced and uses to much pressure.

I’m not against it, the bathmate is a good time.

Eventually I wanted more flexibility, basically not requiring water. However, even more so, I was curious relative to controlling edema. Time and vacuum are two important measurements to this practice, I simply was missing a key component with the bathmate.

Since purchasing my air system, the bathmate has found a sad place on my shelf. Admittedly I am sure I will break it out again for some fun, but I personally see a gauge as a necessity for me personally.

However, I am not a strong proponent of pumping for long term results, this could change as i learn how to appropriately apply it. My experience has been that pumping alone, and without attention to edema expansion, provides temporary results. For me personally pumping must be precisely controlled and intimately coupled with other forms of PE such as jelqing.

My current thought relative to pumping is that the immediate force is placed prior to being applied to the tunica, CC’s, CS, etc. Water finds its own level, in this case the pressure is relieved through the path of least resistance, through fluid build up between the skin layers.

So I do think pumping is a sticky wicket that requires some attention, such as what is my current vacuum?

However, when I’m feeling the need for some temporary girth, pumping is my go to.


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To be honest my thoughts on use of the bathmate is to basically suppliment anything else im doing. I maybe use it twice a week right now. I really would like to try an air pump. I baught it before i read a lot of negatives, cant invest in anything else right now. I just wanna get a bit of use out of it until i can upgrade


Starting stats BPEL: 5 in. MSEG: 4 1/4 in

Current stats BPEL 5.4 in. MSEG 4 1/4 in.

Goal BPEL: 6 in. MSEG: 5 in.

Originally Posted by kingscounty
I’m actually not completely against it LZ, I’m just not a fan of it. As a matter of fact I used it a couple hours ago and I’ve had no choice but to use it the past couple weeks. As I said in my post “use it when privacy is an issue” privacy is an issue for me during summer. I usually decon the whole month of July because of this besides needing one.

If the OP uses the search button he’ll get all the answers he needs on the bathmate and every other pump out there with all the pros and cons to each. The bathmate has been discussed too many times and most come to the same conclusion, it’s overpriced and uses to much pressure.

Oh, sorry to misrepresent! It was just the impression I got from reading your previous answers ^^

I agree with your second statement, there are a load of threads regarding the BM but for this reason, it may be hard to find something directly related to the question at hand. Sometimes it’s nice to have an answer relating directly to the poster and his situation :D

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
Since purchasing my air system, the bathmate has found a sad place on my shelf. Admittedly I am sure I will break it out again for some fun, but I personally see a gauge as a necessity for me personally.

Do you find the BM inferior to other pumps, and if so, would it be only because it doesn’t have a pressure gauge?

Originally Posted by trynagrow
To be honest my thoughts on use of the bathmate is to basically suppliment anything else im doing. I maybe use it twice a week right now. I really would like to try an air pump. I baught it before i read a lot of negatives, cant invest in anything else right now. I just wanna get a bit of use out of it until i can upgrade

If you use the search function, you’ll also see a lot of positives and people who swear by the device. Like everything in PE, its a very mixed bag :)


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

I deffinetly read quite a bit on it already. Vincent vancocks progress thread was very good. Lz is right in this case my question wasnt quite answered and was just reaching out for a little extra help. Sorry if this seems like an unnecessary thread


Starting stats BPEL: 5 in. MSEG: 4 1/4 in

Current stats BPEL 5.4 in. MSEG 4 1/4 in.

Goal BPEL: 6 in. MSEG: 5 in.

Originally Posted by trynagrow

I deffinetly read quite a bit on it already. Vincent vancocks progress thread was very good. Lz is right in this case my question wasnt quite answered and was just reaching out for a little extra help. Sorry if this seems like an unnecessary thread

The trouble is no one can give advice on how you can personally stay hard in any pump. I go in hard but never stay hard it’s always been impossible for me and I would imagine it is for most guys. This again is a reason for a pump with a gauge, you can go in hard and continuously pump up and release while watching the pressure in order to mimic a hard on. Also you can easily slide the tube up and down sort of like jerking off. That’s not going to work with the BM.

Originally Posted by kingscounty
The trouble is no one can give advice on how you can personally stay hard in any pump. I go in hard but never stay hard it’s always been impossible for me and I would imagine it is for most guys. This again is a reason for a pump with a gauge, you can go in hard and continuously pump up and release while watching the pressure in order to mimic a hard on. Also you can easily slide the tube up and down sort of like jerking off. That’s not going to work with the BM.

Your right its difficult to do that with the bm, i have tried that. If i can visualize something erotic it helps a bit. The bm overall is just inconvienent for me. I dont really wanna spend 40 minutes in the shower. Am air pump is deffinetly what i wanna get. My woman seems failry supportive of what i wanna do so hopefully when i have the money to spend il invest in one


Starting stats BPEL: 5 in. MSEG: 4 1/4 in

Current stats BPEL 5.4 in. MSEG 4 1/4 in.

Goal BPEL: 6 in. MSEG: 5 in.

Originally Posted by kingscounty
The trouble is no one can give advice on how you can personally stay hard in any pump. I go in hard but never stay hard it’s always been impossible for me and I would imagine it is for most guys. This again is a reason for a pump with a gauge, you can go in hard and continuously pump up and release while watching the pressure in order to mimic a hard on. Also you can easily slide the tube up and down sort of like jerking off. That’s not going to work with the BM.

Agreed, I have gone in hard, semi, soft and always come out soft, even if watching porn and basically humping the tube. I just took that as the natural mechanism of it and used the BM to temporarily make me a few mm bigger, in the hopes one day, some of those mm will stay.


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

Originally Posted by trynagrow
I dont know, my dick doesnt seem to get any expansion when im not hard. It doesnt even get to where it would be if i was hard in the tube

I’m the same way. I wasted a lot of time not going in hard and got no gains! BUT! I have found if I go in hard I get expansion over my erection size and it comes out soft but still expanded. With a 2” tube I can milk the tube and stay harder longer and I’m progressing. I made most of my gains with the Penomet so they DO work but I got discoloration spots and desensitized from the excessive pressure. So I don’t use it anymore. Just keep the pressure to a gentle tug and not a penis popping max pressure. Watch your sensitivity and EQ.


Started 5.5 x 4.2 Feb 2015

Current 7.25 x 5.5 - 6.25 Base girth?

Goal 7.75 x 5.75?

Originally Posted by Steinroid

I’m the same way. I wasted a lot of time not going in hard and got no gains! BUT! I have found if I go in hard I get expansion over my erection size and it comes out soft but still expanded. With a 2” tube I can milk the tube and stay harder longer and I’m progressing. I made most of my gains with the Penomet so they DO work but I got discoloration spots and desensitized from the excessive pressure. So I don’t use it anymore. Just keep the pressure to a gentle tug and not a penis popping max pressure. Watch your sensitivity and EQ.

I used to go in hard with max preasure and wound up with bad bruising. I had no option but to stop. O for a vacuum pump with a gauge, so that doesnt happen anymore. Nowadays, I still use the BM but go insert. I find it does give my unit a nice plump look for a couple if hours. I prefer a vacuum pump, tho.


Current: 7.5 BPEL, 6 BEG, 5.5 MSEG, 5 NBPFL, 5 FG, 8.25 BPFSL

Long term goal: 8 BPEL, 6 BEG, 6 MSEG, 5.5 NBPFL, 5 FG

Originally Posted by Steinroid
I’m the same way. I wasted a lot of time not going in hard and got no gains! BUT! I have found if I go in hard I get expansion over my erection size and it comes out soft but still expanded. With a 2” tube I can milk the tube and stay harder longer and I’m progressing. I made most of my gains with the Penomet so they DO work but I got discoloration spots and desensitized from the excessive pressure. So I don’t use it anymore. Just keep the pressure to a gentle tug and not a penis popping max pressure. Watch your sensitivity and EQ.

Your gains are very impressive. Very similar start stats to mine. Howd you make most of your gains?


Starting stats BPEL: 5 in. MSEG: 4 1/4 in

Current stats BPEL 5.4 in. MSEG 4 1/4 in.

Goal BPEL: 6 in. MSEG: 5 in.

Originally Posted by iceman67
I used to go in hard with max preasure and wound up with bad bruising. I had no option but to stop. O for a vacuum pump with a gauge, so that doesnt happen anymore. Nowadays, I still use the BM but go insert. I find it does give my unit a nice plump look for a couple if hours. I prefer a vacuum pump, tho.

Have you ever tried going into the bm while hard with a C ring on?


Starting stats BPEL: 5 in. MSEG: 4 1/4 in

Current stats BPEL 5.4 in. MSEG 4 1/4 in.

Goal BPEL: 6 in. MSEG: 5 in.

Originally Posted by trynagrow
Your gains are very impressive. Very similar start stats to mine. Howd you make most of your gains?

First 2 years I gained steadily using the Penomet 20 mins, manual piss stretches and 100 jelqs a day. Nothing fancy or complicated. I started out very thin so I always had problems with my balls getting sucked in to the pump so I’ve experimented with a lot of cock rings to fill in that space. I think that improved my gains by keeping it hard and focusing expansion Further up the shaft where I needed it.


Started 5.5 x 4.2 Feb 2015

Current 7.25 x 5.5 - 6.25 Base girth?

Goal 7.75 x 5.75?

I had more success that way so far as well


Starting stats BPEL: 5 in. MSEG: 4 1/4 in

Current stats BPEL 5.4 in. MSEG 4 1/4 in.

Goal BPEL: 6 in. MSEG: 5 in.

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