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Air pump vs water pump

Just wanted to say where I am and get some feedback. Been doing PE a long time on and off, mainly off. Even so I am .75” longer than when I started and that’s got to be good. One of the problems is I definitely find that too much PE affects EQ so it’s hard to get the balance.

I am currently using Phallosan and thinking about adding a pump to the stretching - I wanted to ask if the pumps with gauges are worth getting..

I am kind of basing that on some review I;ve seen on the web ( I think the guy is Polish) who did this analysis and found that the optimum useage for phallosan is 10 hours a day but that 9 was also very effective, more than 10 was actually counter productive. According to his research jelqing reduced effectiveness of phallosan but pumping enhanced it so thinking of dipping back in.

I have heard that pumps for use in water such as Bathmate are safer than air pumps, but none of the water based pumps have gauges, I have come to the conclusion that I really need to see a pressure so I can prevent myself from overdoing it..

Advice would be welcome..

PS My girlfriend loves my cock saying she feels more sensation than she has with other men including plenty of big ones - but admits she would really appreciate more girth. Obviously the good we have is down to emotional connection but I would like to add some girth to make it even better, especially since sometimes for whatever reason she does not feel me enough..

Currently 6.25 BPEL x 5.0

Originally Posted by Nozzle
I have heard that pumps for use in water such as Bathmate are safer than air pumps, but none of the water based pumps have gauges, I have come to the conclusion that I really need to see a pressure so I can prevent myself from overdoing it..

What you have heard is the exact opposite of the truth. You need a gauge so you can make sure you are pumping at a safe pressure. Bathmate’s are capable of pressures up to 16"hg which is way above the safe level for even experienced pumpers and definitely dangerous for a newbie.

Get an air pump with a gauge and start off at pressures in the 3 to 4"hg range and for only 5 to 10 minutes max as you get conditioned to this new experience.

I would recommend finding a LeLuv pump with gauge on Ebay. I will see if I can find a good one for you and paste in the link.

Penis Pump Maxi Red With Gauge 9 Inch Length 2 Inch Diameter Cylinder LeLuv for sale online | eBay

Use our cylinder sizing chart to select your size. The above link shows a 9"X2" tube that is one of the most common sizes, but he offers lots of different diameters to choose from. You will probably get it for the starting bid and shipping is included. Selecting Your Cylinder Size

Here is the page that shows 4 different sizes of the 9" tube.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.


Last edited by gprent : 08-01-2018 at .

Thank you - really great info - What you say rings true - I got a bath mate a few years back, got in the bath and pumped it up to max. I basically detonated my dick - took a month to recover. Crazy. I threw it away.

Originally Posted by Nozzle
Thank you - really great info - What you say rings true - I got a bath mate a few years back, got in the bath and pumped it up to max. I basically detonated my dick - took a month to recover. Crazy. I threw it away.

Can you give more details about this? I have used a BM for several months now, when I got to grips with it after around 2 weeks in and a dozen or so uses, I would pump it as hard as physically possible, jamming it hard into my pubis. Did this for a couple of weeks, 5 days per week. Of course i’m aware now this is a ridiculous idea, but the point I’m making is it never caused any issues, other than the uncomfortable feeling the glans was being hyper-inflated during the max pump. I’m curious about your situation and experience, if you wouldn’t mind sharing.

Also agreeing with Gprent, from my education from this site regarding pumping and PE, the sweet spot - if i remember correctly (I dont air pump, and I read this a while ago) - was around 3 - 4hg for an extended period of time, to offer the best expansion and best environment for gains or even cementing temp gains.


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!


Last edited by LightningZee : 08-02-2018 at .

High pressure Penomet pumping gave me great gains but desensitized me so badly I couldn’t cum jackin off anymore! And turned my cock dark and spotty. I’ve figured out that for me heat makes a difference and if I don’t enter the tube hard I don’t gain! I haven’t tried using water in the air pump yet because it’s inconvenient, but I LOVE pumping now that I don’t have to stand in the shower like a hostage I can walk around and do other things. I own five pump cylinders now! So far I’ve been able to even out my taper, lessen my curve and modified my shape with different cylinders. I just bought a Longjohnny 4” to pump the whole package because my sack looks tiny compared to my cock now. It’s improving hang every day and also giving unusual sensations on off days that feel great.


Started 5.5 x 4.2 Feb 2015

Current 7.25 x 5.5 - 6.25 Base girth?

Goal 7.75 x 5.75?

Originally Posted by Steinroid
High pressure Penomet pumping gave me great gains but desensitized me so badly I couldn’t cum jackin off anymore! And turned my cock dark and spotty. I’ve figured out that for me heat makes a difference and if I don’t enter the tube hard I don’t gain! I haven’t tried using water in the air pump yet because it’s inconvenient, but I LOVE pumping now that I don’t have to stand in the shower like a hostage I can walk around and do other things. I own five pump cylinders now! So far I’ve been able to even out my taper, lessen my curve and modified my shape with different cylinders. I just bought a Longjohnny 4” to pump the whole package because my sack looks tiny compared to my cock now. It’s improving hang every day and also giving unusual sensations on off days that feel great.

Wow, bit worried about my BM now! Got a lot to think about…
When you say “couldnt cum jackin off” - past tense - does that mean you’ve recovered some of your sensitivity?

You probably already considered this but maybe Firegoat rolls may help return your dick to its Caucasian-color variety :D


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

Now that I switched to low pressure air pumping my sensitivity has returned. I do resist jerking off to save the loads for women but I can get off now if I want to. Also the color has lightened with the low pressure too.


Started 5.5 x 4.2 Feb 2015

Current 7.25 x 5.5 - 6.25 Base girth?

Goal 7.75 x 5.75?

Originally Posted by Steinroid
Now that I switched to low pressure air pumping my sensitivity has returned. I do resist jerking off to save the loads for women but I can get off now if I want to. Also the color has lightened with the low pressure too.

Stay in that sweet spot.


Started 7.75x5.75

Currently: 9.75bpX6.75eg My Picture Thread

Goal:10.0bpX7.25mseg Building a thicker unit, click by click, pump by pump, jelq by jelq!

I was forcing it and stretching longer in the tube quickly by cranking up to 10hg for a minute every 10. Got me a plum colored spotted cock and diminished EQ. Less is more.😏


Started 5.5 x 4.2 Feb 2015

Current 7.25 x 5.5 - 6.25 Base girth?

Goal 7.75 x 5.75?

Originally Posted by LightningZee
Can you give more details about this? I have used a BM for several months now, when I got to grips with it after around 2 weeks in and a dozen or so uses, I would pump it as hard as physically possible, jamming it hard into my pubis. Did this for a couple of weeks, 5 days per week. Of course I’m aware now this is a ridiculous idea, but the point I’m making is it never caused any issues, other than the uncomfortable feeling the glans was being hyper-inflated during the max pump. I’m curious about your situation and experience, if you wouldn’t mind sharing.

Also agreeing with Gprent, from my education from this site regarding pumping and PE, the sweet spot - if I remember correctly (I don’t air pump, and I read this a while ago) - was around 3 - 4hg for an extended period of time, to offer the best expansion and best environment for gains or even cementing temp gains.

Yeah sure - I would say I am very healthy overall but have learned that I may or may not have compromised the blood vessels in my penis - over jelqing - over stretching, over hanging, over extending with both SizeGenetics and Phallosan - all I know is I have to take it one step at a time. For example on the Phallosan I ALWAYS wear the protective cap, whereas I think most experienced users don’t. What I am saying is pretty much echoed all over this site - take it easy or you will hurt yourself, possibly permanently, and most importantly: listen to your body.

I have finally got the courage up to get another pump (LA with gauge) and believe me and I am going to start easy.

If you have got away with maxxing out the pressure good for you.. Good luck with your quest.


Last edited by Nozzle : 08-11-2018 at . Reason: typo

Originally Posted by Steinroid
High pressure Penomet pumping gave me great gains but desensitized me so badly I couldn’t cum jackin off anymore! And turned my cock dark and spotty. I’ve figured out that for me heat makes a difference and if I don’t enter the tube hard I don’t gain! I haven’t tried using water in the air pump yet because it’s inconvenient, but I LOVE pumping now that I don’t have to stand in the shower like a hostage I can walk around and do other things. I own five pump cylinders now! So far I’ve been able to even out my taper, lessen my curve and modified my shape with different cylinders. I just bought a Longjohnny 4” to pump the whole package because my sack looks tiny compared to my cock now. It’s improving hang every day and also giving unusual sensations on off days that feel great.

Great gains and really encouraging to know that you have achieved them by going steady.

I came across info on GoodLookinLoser that says pumping erect is advanced/high risk - any thoughts?


Last edited by Nozzle : 08-11-2018 at . Reason: posted too early

Originally Posted by Nozzle
Yeah sure - I would say I am very healthy overall but have learned that I may or may not have compromised the blood vessels in my penis - over jelqing - over stretching, over hanging, over extending with both SizeGenetics and Phallosan - all I know is I have to take it one step at a time. For example on the Phallosan I ALWAYS wear the protective cap, whereas I think most experienced users don’t. What I am saying is pretty much echoed all over this site - take it easy or you will hurt yourself, possibly permanently, and most importantly: listen to your body.

I have finally got the courage up to get another pump (LA with gauge) and believe me and I am going to start easy.

If you have got away with maxxing out the pressure good for you.. Good luck with your quest.

Overworking it… You’re not alone there. As for the PF, i have recently made a thread on that which you may, or may not, find helpful. I include some tips i’ve found when wearing it. Lately though, i have actually gotten less problems and less edema by not wearing the protector cap. I shall include this in my thread. It might be something to consider :)

I did get away with maxxing out the pressure, but that was inexperience and luck, probably. I dont plan to do this anytime, seeing as all stated information says low pressure for long duration works so much better than high pressure and low duration.

Good luck to you too, may we both achieve our goals!


LightningZee; following Thunder's religiously for the next year!

Originally Posted by Nozzle

I came across info on GoodLookinLoser that says pumping erect is advanced/high risk - any thoughts?

He uses a bath mate or Penomet and with the extreme pressures those produce I would agree. At 3-5hg I feel no excessive pressures or risk. I get great expansion if erect. Only decent otherwise and no gains.


Started 5.5 x 4.2 Feb 2015

Current 7.25 x 5.5 - 6.25 Base girth?

Goal 7.75 x 5.75?

airpump all the way, who has the time to take 2-3 baths anyway. LA Pump takes a while to ship but they have a quality product.

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