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That is what they say but experiments that I did made the water vaporize sooner. And when I buy or you buy vaporizers they tell you to add salt to help with the amount of vapor it produces. It said to make more vapor was to add more salt so adding salt to a Vicks Vaporizer will make the water vaporize faster and more.

Got anything else you want to argue?


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GSpotMassagerS:

“Got anything else you want to argue?”

So, does that mean that what you say is now established fact, based on your assertions, not to be questioned further?

“Experiments that [you] did made the water vaporize sooner.” I would find that statement to be more credible if you provided something a little more solid about the conditions of this experiment.

My guess - and note that I am labeling this as a guess, since I don’t see the instructions for your vaporizer - is that a modest amount of salt might improve the electrical conductivity that the vaporizer depends on for its operation. I do not believe it is because it lowers the boiling point of water, especially as multiple web sites I’ve cited say that adding salt to water raises, not lowers, the boiling point.

Still, if you want to believe that you can boil your penis at room temperature through pumping, be my guest. For anyone else still reading this thread, I urge them to be cautious with vacuum levels, but not because I have any reason to believe that anything close to normal pumping vacuums will cause the water in your penis to boil.


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The term should be evaporate not boil. I made a mistake by saying boil to begin with. Look up evaporation


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I don’t even have to look up evaporation - but I will, just so I can throw a link in here for anyone else who might be interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporation

Evaporation is significantly different than boiling.


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You keep throwing up that Wikipedia anybody can post stuff there it doesn’t matter if it is true or not. I could sign up and post stuff if I wanted to.

But I found a flaw in your calculations

Water boils at 212 %F at sea level witch is 14.7 PSI

OK if you create a vacuum then that means it will go down past 0 PSI before the vacuum is even a vacuum so by my calculation it drops 14.7 PSI before a vacuum is even created so your calculation are 14.7 PSI off.


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Hey Gspot you are right about cooking your cook. But i never had issues with pumping, only when I use high pressures. I gave up a hardcore clamping routine. I was doing 3 sets of 15 min using 2 cable clamps. I used a mouse pad as wrap. And so, after about 10 min. I felt like my skin was burning, a intense pain like burning. I continued the exercise because i dint want to gave up. But after time my skin started to darken and show blisters. It really felt like a burning skin in every aspect.

Originally Posted by GSpotMassagerS
You keep throwing up that Wikipedia anybody can post stuff there it doesn’t matter if it is true or not. I could sign up and post stuff if I wanted to.

But I found a flaw in your calculations

Water boils at 212 %F at sea level witch is 14.7 PSI

OK if you create a vacuum then that means it will go down past 0 PSI before the vacuum is even a vacuum so by my calculation it drops 14.7 PSI before a vacuum is even created so your calculation are 14.7 PSI off.

Go back and look at the posts, GSpot. My citations have not been exclusively from Wikipedia. My original post, for example, was from http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.ed…tic/vappre.html.

However, you’re not refuting the facts by saying “Well, it’s just Wikipedia.”

And, by the way, where are your citations backing your conjecture and anecdotes?

I suggest that you revisit the “flaw in [my] calculations”. You’re comparing apples and oranges. PSI (pounds per square inch) and inHg (or mmHg) are two different measurement scales which are not interchangeable. Atmospheric pressure at sea level expressed in those units is 760 mmHg, or 29.53 inHg. Perhaps that is why my hand pump stops at 760 mmHg/30 inHg. It’s incapable of creating more than a perfect vacuum.

Source on those atmospheric pressures at sea level: that unreliable Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_pressure

Your new analysis is flawed in one other way. You do realize that we are not, in fact, ‘creating a vacuum’ when we pump? We are creating a relative vacuum; lower pressure compared to the atmospheric pressure where we are. So no, we are not, in fact, ‘dropping 14.7 PSI’ before we create a vacuum to pump with.

Originally Posted by bugasman
Hey Gspot you are right about cooking your cook. But i never had issues with pumping, only when I use high pressures. I gave up a hardcore clamping routine. I was doing 3 sets of 15 min using 2 cable clamps. I used a mouse pad as wrap. And so, after about 10 min. I felt like my skin was burning, a intense pain like burning. I continued the exercise because i dint want to gave up. But after time my skin started to darken and show blisters. It really felt like a burning skin in every aspect.

Bugasman:

You may feel like your skin is burning, but that does not mean that it is burning (or boiling). Not even GSpotMassagerS has made the case (yet) that clamping boils your penis. I have yet to see any measurements of what the actual increase in pressure is, generated inside your penis by clamping.


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Last edited by Lampwick : 11-28-2008 at .

I’ve never been burnt by vacuum pumping. Blister caused by normal vacuum pumping haven’t anything to do with heat or evaporation. It’s just lymph sucked out of tissue, under the skin, due to the pulling force created by the differential of pressure.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
Go back and look at the posts, GSpot. My citations have not been exclusively from Wikipedia. My original post, for example, was from http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.ed…tic/vappre.html.

However, you’re not refuting the facts by saying “Well, it’s just Wikipedia.”

And, by the way, where are your citations backing your conjecture and anecdotes?

I suggest that you revisit the “flaw in [my] calculations”. You’re comparing apples and oranges. PSI (pounds per square inch) and inHg (or mmHg) are two different measurement scales which are not interchangeable. Atmospheric pressure at sea level expressed in those units is 760 mmHg, or 29.53 inHg. Perhaps that is why my hand pump stops at 760 mmHg/30 inHg. It’s incapable of creating more than a perfect vacuum.

Source on those atmospheric pressures at sea level: that unreliable Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_pressure

Your new analysis is flawed in one other way. You do realize that we are not, in fact, ‘creating a vacuum’ when we pump? We are creating a relative vacuum; lower pressure compared to the atmospheric pressure where we are. So no, we are not, in fact, ‘dropping 14.7 PSI’ before we create a vacuum to pump with.

Bugasman:

You may feel like your skin is burning, but that does not mean that it is burning (or boiling). Not even GSpotMassagerS has made the case (yet) that clamping boils your penis. I have yet to see any measurements of what the actual increase in pressure is, generated inside your penis by clamping.

I know the are two different measurements but I see that you lack the knowledge of what I am saying. You are suggesting that the pressure only goes down that amount but what I am trying to get you to understand is that if the sea level is at 14.7 PSI “29.92951 Inches of mercury” So you are 29.92951 Inches of mercury off of your calculation cause you are working with a vacuum pressure witch means that it has to drop 29.92951 Inches of mercury to zero before there is acually a vacuum to begin with. That is what I am trying to explain to you but I see that you are so into trying to get your point across that you fail to relies what I was saying

So if you pull 5 inch vacuum the pressure that is dropped is actually about 35 inches mercury

Get it now?


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No, I am afraid that you misunderstand vacuum. Vacuum is relative to atmospheric pressure. A decrease in pressure compared to atmospheric pressure is a relative vacuum.

If you pull five inches of mercury from atmospheric pressure, your hypothetical gauge would either read “-5” if it is displaying compared to atmospheric pressure, or 24.92951 if it was reading the actual pressure. Either would be a relative vacuum compared to ambient air pressure. You don’t need to get down to zero before pulling vacuum; you are pulling relative vacuum all the way down. When you get to zero, it stops. You can’t pull more than an absolute vacuum.


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If you are drawing the pressure from the atmosphere than yes but you are drawing it from a container that has no atmosphere pressure on it and to drop it to a vacuum is dropping the pressure to Zero and beyond.

Absolute vacuum is -30 PSI

You are talking to somebody who knows.

And no one has or can reach that absolute vacuum cause to do so would mean to vacuum out all the dust and particles that is in the cylinder. Some people claimed to do it but after really looking into the matter they found out it was only a 29.99 Vacuum

The cylinder has no atmospheric pressure in it. You know as well as I do that you only feel the vaccum until the vacuum is created.. which means that the air in the cylinder has to be pumped out before the pressure is below zero..


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Close the topic I am through arguing this matter.


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GSpot, many had injuries caused by pumping at a too high level; vets always say: “High pressure is bad”; Lamp has given the same advice many times. So said, high pressure in vacuum pump doesn’t cause any boiling-related injuries, because we never heard of cooked penises, around here. Just imagine how painful it would be putting your penis in boiling water; then, imagine having boiling water inside your penis!.

While your original intention is good and helpful, you can’t seriously believe in what are you saying.

Originally Posted by GSpotMassagerS

If you are drawing the pressure from the atmosphere than yes but you are drawing it from a container that has no atmosphere pressure on it and to drop it to a vacuum is dropping the pressure to Zero and beyond.

Absolute vacuum is -30 PSI

You are talking to somebody who knows.

And no one has or can reach that absolute vacuum cause to do so would mean to vacuum out all the dust and particles that is in the cylinder. Some people claimed to do it but after really looking into the matter they found out it was only a 29.99 Vacuum

The cylinder has no atmospheric pressure in it. You know as well as I do that you only feel the vaccum until the vacuum is created.. which means that the air in the cylinder has to be pumped out before the pressure is below zero..

Once again, there is a fundamental flaw in your argument. Despite your assertion, of course the container has atmospheric pressure in it! Until you start pumping, it has the same atmospheric pressure as the rest of the world around you.

Absolute vacuum is -30PSI compared to a baseline atmospheric of +30PSI - the two combined equals zero.

As to “you are talking to somebody who knows” - there is a logical fallacy called “appeal to authority”. I think this qualifies. Don’t expect me or anyone else to believe you based solely on that bald assertion.


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He talks about ambient air pressure and not being able to go below it. The lowest vacuum ever measured was 29.99 PSI..

OK going by what he said you can not go beyond zero absolute pressure..

False let me explain..

The atmospheric pressure at see level is 14.7 PSI.. so going by what he said you would not be able to go beyond zero PSI but we know you can go to at least -29.99 PSI so if you take away 14.7 PSI there is 15.29 PSI that would be below what he claims you can not go beyond..

marinera you are mistaken about boiling at room temps with boiling at 212%F

Not the same. you do not feel the heat cause it isn’t there but the result of being burned is there..


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