Would you feel weird

HAHAHA.Yeah I don’t think I will be attending that meeting, but thanks. Only because I no longer live in NYC, but thanks for informing me about it.maybe next year.

I will openly discuss it when people get on the topic of size. Lets be honest here, you know that 90+% of guys would increase their size if they new it was possible. Look at the money that these pill, extender and magic potion formulas are pulling in. PE is like riding a moped dude, it’s fun until someone sees you doing it!

Not to highjack JB, but could you tell me your routine, or give me a link to it? If it’s just the newbie routine that’s amazing. You’ve gained an inch in two months!

I’d like to give another opinion here that comes from having lived six decades. I really think it would be inappropriate to give a friend a P E device as any type of gift without having laid down a predicate with careful conversation and respect for that Friend’s feelings.

On talking to your dad, JB, I would encourage you to think more about how to broach that subject. My dad is gone and has been dead for over 30 years. Still, I feel I never got to know the guy and what few conversations we had about sex I can now see were open ended on his part. I can now see that he would have probably welcomed the opportunity to talk more about his life and the things that make us men, including the sexual aspect of our lives.

This may seem odd to some men, but if a man can talk to another man about his sexuality, his high experiences and his low experiences, those two men have created among their friendship a special bond that transcends normal male friendships. I for one believe that we as straight men need at least one other man friend who is a Friend of our heart’s. How do you find such a friend? Good question. That kind of friend is a person whose integrity and confidentiality you trust as much as you own. He wouldn’t divulge to another any scintilla of what you have shared with him. He, as that kind of man friend, has your best interest at the core of his heart. That kind of friendship, I submit to you, makes life as a man all the more fulfilling as we as men tend to exist as islands set apart to ourselves. Implicit in that island like mentality, is lots of loneliness, wonderings, lack of fulfillment, and isolationism.

So how does a man break the ice with another man he deems worthy of that kind of friendship. I have found one possible way. We as men are so intent on being Mr. Macho and on not showing a dent or weakness in our armor. If you have another man friend whose integrity and confidentiality you trust implicitly, a good way to develop that friendship even further as strictly heterosexual men is to admit in conversation some weaker area of our lives that makes us vulnerable. If the friend picks up on the admission, you flesh out that area further in conversation. A bond develops that in time may develop into a deeper and deeper friendship. If he does not pick up on your admission, you drop the subject.

I have a couple of friendships with men similar to what I am describing. Those friendships have made my life as a man more meaningful as a straight guy. I believe that the Biblical reference to David and Johnathan where their friendship surpassed the love of women alludes to that type of friendship of the heart with another man that is not a matter of anything sexual between the friends, but a matter loyalty, concern, trust and sharing between friends of the heart that existed between those two men.

I know this is a long post. So back to you JB. Don’t count out talking to your dad about your new found life as a P Eer. You may find that such a sharing of the heart of who you are brings you together in a way you did not know possible. As to talking about PEing with a friend, to me it would only be a friend whose integrity and confidentiality I trusted. In my life, I have only one man friend to whom I talk to about P Eing and he and I embarked on this P E journey together as strictly proper and straight up and down guys and friends….It can be done with propriety as straight men. It also can add a wonderful chapter to your life as a man.

I still haven’t talked to anyone including my cousin who is like a brother to me. He and I are best friends and I this would be the person I talk to about PE’ing first, but as I said we haven’t touched on this topic yet. Once I hit my goal I think I am going to tell him and then I’ll give him the hanging device so he can get started.

So thinktank, do you feel that guys who discuss these deeper issues have a better emotional bond with their friends? Doesn’t being a man give us the ability to not go into a deep emotional conversation with other guys and still be able to have friends of the best caliber, who would go to the ends of the earth for each other? Very rarely do I have conversations with my friends which would be considered “deeply emotional” and these guys are the ones I would trust with my kid.

JB. Yes, I have many men friends like the ones you describe you have. Those friendships are deep and fulfilling also. I dont necessarily characterize my friendship with my friend who is likewise involved in P E as emotional. I would say that the transparency of that particular friendship is greater than the friendships I have with others of my men friends. You mentioned your dad and a cousin. My intent in my post was not to dismiss those relationships as ones where you would never discuss P E. For those of us who P E, it is a big part of our lives and a wonderful addition to our masculinity. All I am saying, is that if the opportunity should ever present itself in the right circumstances to discuss P E with a person whose integrity and confidentialitiy you trust, your relationship with that guy takes on a deeper and more transparent bond between you. You know us men. We for the most part are not into eely feely emotional stuff. But a wonderful thing happens among men who can discuss sexual matters in the parameters I have outlined.

Being able to talk to another guy about deep things that matter to guys (and maybe aren’t as meaningful to a woman) is just so good for the soul. Knowing that someone else really understands and cares, whether it’s struggles or victories. Even just the process of articulating deeper issues, helps me to process my own thoughts and solve problems. I went for many years without having such a male confidant. It was a long, lonely and difficult period. Now that I have found a true friend that I can trust with any information, I find I am emotionally much healthier and other relationships are more fulfilling because I am no longer searching for someone who really understands. Guys need close guy friends. Finding someone who understands this need, who doesn’t get uncomfortable sharing deep stuff and who can be trusted, is not easy. But they’re out there.

Thinktank, I wasn’t saying you were dismissing those friendships. It was just a question or statement regarding our (men) lifestyle and ability to develop friendships. I understood what you were saying and I think it’s a great thing.

It would only be weird …if it was “used”

I guess it would have to be used. I don’t think I would buy or make a hanger for someone else, unless I was in that industry.