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Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
I had the same trepidation when I was thinking about the mods. The idea of messing up on a $100 dollar piece of equipment was daunting. In retrospect though, it was all easy and there was always a large safety margin.

It might be possible to do the mods on a Starter. I had one at the time, but decided to order a Hardcore. Knowing what I do now, I think I could do the mods to the Starter. It would basically entail ripping off the gel padding, and removing any leftover padding glue, and then continuing with the same modifications xenolith described. While you could get a similar effect with the padding still in place (in terms of toe-out and tighter top closure), I don’t think it would grip the penis without wrap the same way the pilates band material does. The gel pads are slick by comparison. Also the padding would limit how tightly the top could be closed. Another difference might be the well shapes of the hanger underneath the padding. They are not the exact same design underneath.

Overall, yes, I think it is possible to get the same effect with a little more work. But I don’t know for sure. If you like using your Starter, and plan to still use your Starter, I would not risk ruining it by these mods. I’d recommend ordering the Hardcore. If you never use the Starter anymore, you could probably convert it into something very similar to the modified hardcore.

Yeah if I’m going to do that ill probably buy a hardcore for that.

But what about the fact that Xeno claimed that he could hang for long periods and with good circulation on the glans? Did you experience the same?

Because for me that would be the purpose on buying this.

Thanks!


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Originally Posted by Dvdck
Yeah if I’m going to do that ill probably buy a hardcore for that.

But what about the fact that Xeno claimed that he could hang for long periods and with good circulation on the glans? Did you experience the same?

Because for me that would be the purpose on buying this.

Thanks!

Yes I did experience much improved circulation while hanging. At first I used this to hang for longer sets. Later I used normal set times and simply enjoyed excellent comfort and healthier hanging.


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Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
I had the same trepidation when I was thinking about the mods. The idea of messing up on a $100 dollar piece of equipment was daunting. In retrospect though, it was all easy and there was always a large safety margin.

It might be possible to do the mods on a Starter. I had one at the time, but decided to order a Hardcore. Knowing what I do now, I think I could do the mods to the Starter. It would basically entail ripping off the gel padding, and removing any leftover padding glue, and then continuing with the same modifications xenolith described. While you could get a similar effect with the padding still in place (in terms of toe-out and tighter top closure), I don’t think it would grip the penis without wrap the same way the pilates band material does. The gel pads are slick by comparison. Also the padding would limit how tightly the top could be closed. Another difference might be the well shapes of the hanger underneath the padding. They are not the exact same design underneath.

Overall, yes, I think it is possible to get the same effect with a little more work. But I don’t know for sure. If you like using your Starter, and plan to still use your Starter, I would not risk ruining it by these mods. I’d recommend ordering the Hardcore. If you never use the Starter anymore, you could probably convert it into something very similar to the modified hardcore.

I just bought a starter. It arrived this week.

I’m thinking of keeping the gel but attempting to use the xeno’s toe-out and tighter top closure settings.

In the post I quoted above, you mentioned a number of reasons it may be suboptimal. However, do you think it is worth trying? Do you think I would be better off just returning the Bib Starter and purchasing a Hardcore? I find the Starter quite comfortable, even without a wrap. However, I would much rather be able to hang for longer than 20 minute sets without circulation issues.

Ironically, I originally ordered a Hardcore. Bib talked me out of it via e-mail since I have no previous hanging experience.


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Originally Posted by lifestyle
I just bought a starter. It arrived this week.

I’m thinking of keeping the gel but attempting to use the xeno’s toe-out and tighter top closure settings.

In the post I quoted above, you mentioned a number of reasons it may be suboptimal. However, do you think it is worth trying? Do you think I would be better off just returning the Bib Starter and purchasing a Hardcore? I find the Starter quite comfortable, even without a wrap. However, I would much rather be able to hang for longer than 20 minute sets without circulation issues.

Ironically, I originally ordered a Hardcore. Bib talked me out of it via e-mail since I have no previous hanging experience.

You could make the changes to the bottom bolts (which are easily reversible; just buy a new bolt) and see if it gives the desired result.

Part of the improved circulation is the ability to hang without a wrap. When the wrap gets compressed, it constricts the CS. So if you’re already able to hang without wrap, maybe the changes to the bottom bolts would be all you need.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

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