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Why is my dick SHORTER after a hanging session?

As I have written in another thread, I can’t gain EL from hanging. I tried for 8 months and gained only 1/10th of an inch or so. Not much if I think about all the effort I put into hanging. I started after a two month break, so conditioning or overtraining should not be the reason.

What I have noticed is that after a hanging session, which is between 3x20 and 6x20 minutes for me, my dick is actually shorter than before the session. Shorter in terms of BPFSL. I thought that it should be longer, at least for some time. I warm up for 10 minutes before hanging and the first half of the first sets with a rice sock. I decrease the weight as I reach fatigue.

I thought that maybe I am doing something wrong and this could be the reason for my lack of gains. When I do manual stretches, my BPFSL goes up, so the problem seems to be somewhere within the hanging process.
Has anybody experienced the same problem?


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

Hmmm…do you traction wrap after sessions? Do you heat between sessions? Do you measure on a daily basis? If the ligs are stretched for awhile and then you stop stretching them they will retaliate by shortening (temporarily).

Possibly doing an ADS using some kind of traction wrap, would help. Also read Wadzillas post on TITT. Its been recently talked about so just do a search for “T.I.T.T.”

I’ve been hanging for a few months, nothing too large to report, but also what weight do you hang?


BPEL: 6.20" BPEG: 4.55" 9/1/2004

Currently 6.95" x 4.75" (5" at base)

I heat between sessions and for the first half of the first sets. I didn’t use to measure on a daily basis. When I didn’t gain anything I got curious about how hanging worked, so I measured BPFSL before and after sessions.

The thing is that immediately after hanging, my BPFSL is shorter than usual. A few hours after, it is back to normal length. I just thought that it should be LONGER after hanging and go back to normal from there.
What I mean is that my dick gets less elastic the more time I spend hanging. At the beginning of a session, it is soft and at normal flaccid size. After hanging, it is kind of stiff and even though the flaccid hang is longer, BPFSL is shorter than before the session.

I tried using traction wrapping, but that sort of hinders blood flow to the penis and so I gave up on it. I tried it for a month and it didn’t help anyways. It seems to be logical though that you should keep the tissue in an extended state after hanging, but I am not sure how. In order to use traction wrapping or an ADS device, I have to hang in the morning. I have noticed however that hanging for me feels better when I do it in the evening. The tissues seem more elastic in the evening.

Oh, I forgot to mention, the heaviest weight I used so far was 11 lbs.

I’ve read about T.I.T.T. and it seems to make sense. However, I can’t put more time into hanging than two hours per day, and I’m even having trouble finding that much time. Maybe I should go back to manual stretches if I can gain with shorter workouts, or if I can gain at all. The thing is I started hanging because I couldn’t gain from manual stretches anymore :(


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

Sounds like taking a month off would do you good…I’d take an extended break and come back it sounds as though your penis has reached a place where its too ‘tough’ to get any more length but some time off would get it back to where it would be deconditioned and suceptible to continued stretching later on.

Definitely think about that. I mean Wadzilla really seems to be on to something, I’d also gander PMing him and asking point blank what he suggests.

Also see if there are other things you can do besides stretches.


BPEL: 6.20" BPEG: 4.55" 9/1/2004

Currently 6.95" x 4.75" (5" at base)

I’m very curious to hear what the vets say about this.

Heating between sets might be a problem. I think ligs tend to shrink when heated and not under load.

11# after 8 months sounds kind of light to me. Is it possible you’ve simply strengthened your tissues without stretching them? Conventional wisdom is to gain length before strength. You may be doing just the opposite.

Also, do you stick with one position/angle or switch around? Most vets recommend one primary angle for many sets. Also, try never to take rest days.

Why would BPFSL shrink after sets? It could be due in part to heating between sets, as I mentioned above. Also, maybe your dick muscles (BC) are tensing up and causing some retraction. It also sounds like your dick might be “toughening up” or getting slightly engorged after your sets. A slight erection could pull back on your max BPFSL. Most people’s BPFSLs are longer than their BPELs, so maybe you’re just experiencing this effect.


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Originally Posted by ModestoMan
I’m very curious to hear what the vets say about this.

Heating between sets might be a problem. I think ligs tend to shrink when heated and not under load.

I would think heat would expand not contract. Yes I would like to see a veteran in here to answer as well.


BPEL: 6.20" BPEG: 4.55" 9/1/2004

Currently 6.95" x 4.75" (5" at base)

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
I’m very curious to hear what the vets say about this.

Heating between sets might be a problem. I think ligs tend to shrink when heated and not under load.

11# after 8 months sounds kind of light to me. Is it possible you’ve simply strengthened your tissues without stretching them? Conventional wisdom is to gain length before strength. You may be doing just the opposite.


Actually 11# are heavy for me because my dick is always in a state of fatigue when I’m on a hanging routine. I usually drop some weight after the first two sets, 11# is my starting weight.
I think that you have to hang heavier than a certain weight in order to get gains. However, if you hang above this weight, more weight isn’t automatically better. Hanging for a longer time is.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
Also, do you stick with one position/angle or switch around? Most vets recommend one primary angle for many sets. Also, try never to take rest days.

I hang SD or BTC since my LOT is at about 8:00. I tried to minimize rest days. Even if I couldn’t do a full workout, I tried to hang at least some sets every day.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
Why would BPFSL shrink after sets? It could be due in part to heating between sets, as I mentioned above. Also, maybe your dick muscles (BC) are tensing up and causing some retraction. It also sounds like your dick might be “toughening up” or getting slightly engorged after your sets. A slight erection could pull back on your max BPFSL. Most people’s BPFSLs are longer than their BPELs, so maybe you’re just experiencing this effect.

It’s not like an erection. You are right that my BPFSL is longer than my BPEL by almost half an inch. Before I started hanging, they were at the same length. So in 8 months of hanging I only gained half an inch of BPFSL :( I mentioned this in another thread.
After hanging, my whole crotch area seems to be toughened, especially the penis. It is similar to what it is like after a gym workout, only that my dick hangs longer due to the stretching. I can’t stretch it to the usual BPFSL because it is sort of inelastic though.

This makes an ADS or traction wrapping useless because the idea behind both devices is to keep your penis in the extended state it has after hanging. Since there is no extended state for me, there is no point in wearing an ADS. I tried traction wrapping, but that hinders the blood flow and thus my penis remains in that tight state for a longer time.

Actually, when I think about it, could it be some kind of circulation problem? The hanger cuts of circulation. I try to restore it during sets by heating, massaging and light jelqing. I do not cut off circulation as bad as a hanger does when doing manual stretches. With manual stretches, I don’t experience the “shortening”. After a manual stretch session, my BPFSL is longer than before, although my dick is kind of stiff most of the time (stiff does not mean erect).

I have stopped hanging the end of November. These days I’m on a pumping / jelqing routine to gain some girth. I thought about switching between heavy length work with only some girth work and heavy girth work without length work on a monthly basis. I can’t train these days due to an illness, so my girth work actually isn’t going well. The first days were great though, my dick went from the tough state is was in permanently after I hung so much time to a relaxed, soft and elastic state.

Maybe I should try manual stretches after the month of girth work, but it is hard to quit hanging because in my mind it still is the best for getting length gains.


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

Sounds like your doing everything right I think you may just be a slow gainer. You might want to split length and girth apart. Hang for two months with just a little jelqing for health and than switch to a girth routine for several months. Just some thoughts you need to find a routine that works for you. I have found the switching routine works for me.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Thank you for all the replies.

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
Sounds like your doing everything right I think you may just be a slow gainer. You might want to split length and girth apart. Hang for two months with just a little jelqing for health and than switch to a girth routine for several months. Just some thoughts you need to find a routine that works for you. I have found the switching routine works for me.

Seems to me I’m a nothing gainer :(

Splitting length and girth is what I’m trying right now. I already did the length part the last two months and gained nothing except some FSL :( Hope the girth part will be better. I also have some hope left that I can somehow expand my dick to fill in some of the FSL with the girth work.
Maybe after the girth months my dick is deconditioned enough to get some length gains.

Am I the only person on this forum whose dick is shorter after hanging?


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

Originally Posted by Faust
Thank you for all the replies.

Seems to me I’m a nothing gainer :(

Welcome to the Club, I am the President. :)

When I first started this, I would shrink up like crazy afterwards, kind of like a retracting cord into a vacuum cleaner. Eventually it stopped shrinking up like that, and there might me a slight improvement in flaccid hang, but it did stop shrinking up on me.

Hang in there (no pun intended).

SM


cead mile failte :lep:

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
Sounds like your doing everything right I think you may just be a slow gainer.

I have gained almost nothing in 8 months. That’s a long time, and I was really dedicated. If it’s true that you should stick with what’s working then you should also change everything that isn’t working. For me, hanging the way I did hasn’t worked. If I haven’t gained length in 8 months, why should it start tomorrow? I can’t continue hanging like this. There has to be a flaw in my routine or something like that. I don’t question hanging itself.

Anyway, after my girth month I’ll probably try manual stretches first. They have worked for me in the past, maybe they can work for me again.


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

Faust

I’m in the same boat Bro, it seems with PE gains get harder and harder to get. I feel like I hit a wall I think the only thing that might help are long breaks.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Strange. Are you stretching the internals, not just skin?

My BPFSL is always a little longer immediately after a hanging session, and BPEL is also up in proportion.

The only thing I can think of, assuming you are actually stretching more than skin, is maybe you are loading the tissues too abruptly - too much shock too quickly. If I were you I’d try something like this as an experiment. Compare your BPFSL before and after the session. The goal here is to slowly ease into the tension:

1) A good warmup. Either a hot bath or a longish hot shower. IMO, rice socks are ok for helping maintain warmth but aren’t all that great by themselves for an initial heating.

2) Lightly manual stretch for a few minutes. Very lightly at first, progressing to lightly. ;) Hold 30 seconds or so in each direction with breaks between directions. You could do this toward the end of your heating time in the shower/bath.

3) Hang, using a freshly heated rice sock for the duration of each set. If 10 lbs. is your working weight, maybe start with 5 lbs. for 5 minutes. Increase in increments until you’re at 10 lbs. by the end of the first set. Then continue with 10 lbs. for the rest of your sets. Add a pound or two to your working weight when you feel it’s time for a little more stress.

Originally Posted by hobby
Strange. Are you stretching the internals, not just skin?

My BPFSL is always a little longer immediately after a hanging session, and BPEL is also up in proportion.


In the beginning my skin was too tight, but it has lengthened. I still have some skin soreness when hanging BTC with 10 lbs., but not when hanging SD. I can feel the weight pull my ligs and under the skin I can feel how the internals of my dick are stretched. The part limiting the length is at the upper side. When I touch it during hanging, it feels similar to the lig at the base of the penis, only that it is smaller. It is sort of like a tough string, not round but elliptical. It probably is the tunica.

Originally Posted by hobby
The only thing I can think of, assuming you are actually stretching more than skin, is maybe you are loading the tissues too abruptly - too much shock too quickly. If I were you I’d try something like this as an experiment. Compare your BPFSL before and after the session. The goal here is to slowly ease into the tension:

1) A good warmup. Either a hot bath or a longish hot shower. IMO, rice socks are ok for helping maintain warmth but aren’t all that great by themselves for an initial heating.

2) Lightly manual stretch for a few minutes. Very lightly at first, progressing to lightly. ;) Hold 30 seconds or so in each direction with breaks between directions. You could do this toward the end of your heating time in the shower/bath.

3) Hang, using a freshly heated rice sock for the duration of each set. If 10 lbs. is your working weight, maybe start with 5 lbs. for 5 minutes. Increase in increments until you’re at 10 lbs. by the end of the first set. Then continue with 10 lbs. for the rest of your sets. Add a pound or two to your working weight when you feel it’s time for a little more stress.


This is a good idea, I’ll try that. I have no bathtub, so I have to resort to showers. So far, I heated with a rice sock and started with a pretty heavy weight, usually 5 lbs for the first few minutes. No manual stretches before hanging. Then I would switch to 10 lbs and start the hanging session. Not really a proper warm up when I think about it.

Another thing I’ve noticed is that hanging is harder during winter. The room is not as warm as in the summertime, and since I usually wear no pants while hanging, my feet and legs get cold quickly, even though I turn the radiator all the way up and use a blanket. When my legs are cold, my dick gets cold, too. I guess that’s bad for hanging.


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

Wait a minute. You say you don’t have much growth at all. And you say you rarely have rest days. How about this - try incorporating rest days into your routine. Some guys grow without rest, some cannot grow without it.

To me, that is the one BIG area that needs some experimentation/verification. You can try angles and additional weights and all that other stuff, but if what your own body needs to grow is rest then none of that other stuff really matters.

Determine your body’s response and need for rest first. Find your zone. Because so far not much is working from what you say.

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