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Vacuum Hanging

No more water bubbles or red spots

Hi guys, I’ve been vacuum hanging for about a year now and the learning curve has been a struggle.. At the beginning I was using way too much vacuum and I was having problems with water bubbles and red spots that never went away.. I have now figured that *&^# out.. !
It’s all about using a product called.. Nexcare by 3m. Its a gentle non irritating paper tape.

I cut 3 strips of 6 inches and 2 strips of 4 inches.
Wrap one strip over your circumcision line and the second just above it so that its just below your glad.
Then put one of the 4 inch tapes across your pee hole to the other side and do the same going across to the other side so that they make an X.
I then take the 3rd 6 inch strip and wrap it around the strips used to make the X. This wrap goes just below the gland.
I then take some paper towel and cut them into 2 in wide by 6 inches long and I wrap it around the entire tape job.

The paper towel makes it nice and snug inside the vac chamber and removes the dead air space that causes the extra vacuum.
I then put on the vac hanger all the way to the tip and hold it there while I roll the rubber over the penis.
Once this is on I push the rubber on all sides into the vacuum removing the dead air space. I can can hang 3 lbs like this without the use of my vac pump.
I started adding an elastic band over the rubber and it seems to prevent the pressure from being released.

Once I’m warmed up I can add some internal vac pressure and hang 15 lbs with absolutely no slippage inside the chamber and it’s a serious dick pull all the way into the pubic bone hanging between my legs as I do my email stuff.. Like I’m doing now..

After my 30 min continuous session, I remove the weights and remove the vac pressure but I keep the vac hanger on during my rest period. After 10 min I add vac pressure and start my second set etc.. Il do this 3 times in the morning and once at night.

I’ve gained substantially in the flaccid state with very minimal skin stretch. My old purple dots are almost gone now and they don’t even show up anymore after my entire session is complete so YES I have finally figured out how not to get water bubbles or red dots !! Whoop Whoop

Give it a try boys let me know how you fair !

Steave

The holding force of a vacuum cup is:

F=psi*A

Where:
F is force in lbs
Psi is Hg/2
A is area = r^2 * pi

My glans is 1.65 erect at widest area. If i can flatten so that it is flatest at tip and equal to widest point, its effective surface area for vacuum calculation would be (1.65/2)^2 ×3.14= 2.13 in^2

Multiply times say 7.5psi which would be 15hg

Theoretical Force that could hold would be around 16lbs.

If i want to hang 20lbs i can either increase the hg or increase the surface area.

Anyone have some numbers to confirm this with how much HG they use and what their glans diameter is, and how much weight they are able to pull?


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Thought this would be helpful for vacuum hangers:

Real-time imaging of suction blistering in human skin using optical coherence tomography

So this study is about suction blisters.
There are some good graphs. At different pressures and temperatures when a blister starts, how fast it grows, and when it reaching steady state.

I can see from this that one can hang for only so much time given a pressure before the onset of a blister.
Minimizing temperature and minimizing hg should be a priority, to extend hang times, and decrease blister onset.

Decreasing temp from 35 to 21 has a great effect. Blister onset can be decreased from 2.5min onset to 10min later onset if surface area of suction is 21 degrees. This is the result of using 600mm hg of pressure which is about 23hg in the study.

The lower the pressure there is an exponential increase in blister onset times.

I am thinking to use an icepack sort of thing while I hang on the end of the cup to cool the surface at vacuum.

I want to do a personal log of hang times and compile a chart of hanging times before blister onsets at given weights. This should allow me to know when to stop hanging before a blister.

It can be a useful guide for others as well.

Since I plan on using different cup sizes, here is what I could theoretically hang:

D IN D CM CIRCUM. FORCE lb kg
1.65 4.2 5.18 12.83 5.83
1.73 4.4 5.44 14.14 6.43
1.97 5 6.18 18.26 8.30
2.09 5.3 6.56 20.52 9.33
2.17 5.5 6.80 22.10 10.04
2.32 5.9 7.30 25.43 11.56
2.36 6 7.42 26.30 11.95

at psi 6 (12hg)

So far I am at 1.65. I should be able to hang 12.82lbs comfortably before suction gives. Once suction gives, this causes a small dead space, where the blister starts to form, at a given pressure which is probably much higher than 12hg, as the space is small and the pull increases it.

I hung 5kg last time for about 1hr before a blister set it, so it can be confirmed that the theory is sort of practical.

Ideally I’d want to reach 2”. That way I can reach 9kg for at least a couple 20min sets. And for longer sets I can hang half that, 4.5kg for twice the time or more, as lower chance of creating dead space.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Vac Routine

Bundled Hang SD - (2 HRS L twist, 2 HRS R twist), BTC Hang - (4 HRS).. Thinking about hanging BTC first so maybe the tunica take more stress during the bundled hang SD? Feel fatigue really well during the bundled part I think ?

1. What kind of vacuum hanger are you using?
I am using a vac hanger, which I am also using as a extender most of the time.

2. How long have you been vacuum hanging?
About a week

3. Other hangers used?
Have used a bib and another vac hanger, with little to no consistency

4. Gains and/or Losses
Have gone from 5.75 EL to 6.25 BPEL, not sure what this is due to exactly. A combination of exercises

5. How do you wrap…if you do.
I don’t Wrap, as I find the vac headpiece generally very comfortable, when I am extending way past my BPEL at 18cm then I get serious pressure on my glans, something that a wrapping on the glans, pee hole, could well resolve.

6. Any tips or tricks that you have learned.
Make sure all of the air is out of the vacuum cup this will help keep suction, also use, silicon that is too tight rather than too loose as to not lose vacuum pressure.. Not sure what else at the moment, may come back to edit this.

7. What’s your routine
Normally I am vac extending all day, but try and sneak an hour in every day as a Vac hanger. 45-60mins hanging 1.25kg. I have just upped the weight to 2.25kg and seems to be giving a nice stretch.\

8. Basically anything that you think would might help others.
Better to start slow and work the weight up slowly, avoid conditioning and chance of injury.. Plus heat, try and get heat on the base of the shaft any way possible to help ease the stretch and make the penis more supple and maneable.
Also I guess starting at a small weight would help allow the use of hips to swing the weight about.. This seems to be an ancient Daoist method,,,, which personally I find fascinating

9. Questions….


21/09/2019. 6.2 inches bone pressed erect length.

Short-term goal 24/12/2019

7inches bone pressed erect length

It should have been mentioned in this thread also that for uncut, it is better to hang with foreskin over glans. It is much more effective at preventing blisters than tape. Would have saved me a lot of time if I had known this..

Just tape foreskin shutting in glans and apply cup. Good to go


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Waiting for Blister to heal

Quick question: if a water blister does occur, and it does rupture on its own: is it possible to continue hanging without causing further injury?

My 2 cents theory is that people always say: “put pressure on the wound to stop the bleeding”
If when hanging— the blister area bleeds, is it possible to tightly wrap the area tight enough as to stop bleeding while not losing any hang time? I was thinking of using NexCare waterproof tape, cotton pads and breathable hand wraps.

Waiting 3 weeks for a wound to heal is a long time to mess up a routine.

This thread is much needed.
Thanks. .


Strive to do better everyday

“life's too short to be small” Benjamin Disraeli | BPEL: 7 Mseg: 5

Blisters - how to avoid them and what to do if you get one

Originally Posted by MrSlappy
Quick question: if a water blister does occur, and it does rupture on its own: is it possible to continue hanging without causing further injury?

My 2 cents theory is that people always say: “put pressure on the wound to stop the bleeding”
If when hanging— the blister area bleeds, is it possible to tightly wrap the area tight enough as to stop bleeding while not losing any hang time? I was thinking of using NexCare waterproof tape, cotton pads and breathable hand wraps.

Waiting 3 weeks for a wound to heal is a long time to mess up a routine.

This thread is much needed.
Thanks. .

RED Flag indicator that a blister is forming is a tingly or itchy sensation on the tip of your penis while hanging. If you can tune into that subtle sensation and stop the hang as soon as you feel it, you can avoid a nasty blister set back!
Additionally if you are using a shallow Chinese type vacuum cup as a weight hanger you will more than likely experience blisters. Simply because the pull comes from the glans and not the shaft!

The only negative trait of vacuum hanging is the potential for a blister. I too have experienced an annoying blister and it took me some time to figure out exactly what causes them and how to avoid them. So let’s talk about what the main contributors are to creating a blister….
There are a variety of nuanced reasons for blisters, but the primary cause is trying to use too much weight or hang for too long of a time duration (or a combination of both) before you have developed the proper amount of skin conditioning. The meatus skin is very sensitive and delicate skin. Vacuum pressure is directly exerted upon this area, so it’s vitally important to find the glans protection wrap method that works best for you. We have three methods, all of which are based upon a personal preference. I suggest you experiment to find which method best suits you.
The process required to achieve the skin conditioning that allows you to successfully hang is analogous to getting a sun tan or working with your hands. You wouldn’t go out on the first day of summer and expose yourself to several hours of sun without getting burned. If you weren’t accustomed to working with your hands and decided to chop some wood one weekend you’d likely get blisters on the palms of your hands. Maybe these aren’t great analogies, but I think you understand the point I’m trying to make. So what is the best way to condition your meatus skin? The answer is to deliberately start with a light weight and hang time. In our instruction manual we have a suggested beginner routine. I started with only 3 lbs for 30 minutes, twice a day, one session in the morning and another session later in the afternoon or evening. It took me three full months of dedicated training 5-6 days per week to incrementally go from 3 lbs for 30 minutes up to 8 lbs for a full hour. For many men who already have a significant amount of PE training under their proverbial belt this initial beginner phase of conditioning seems to be too light, and the temptation to accelerate to heavier weight and longer hang sessions ends up being detrimental.
It’s very important to gradually make small incremental increases in weight and time. I used a pyramid method and this is an example…. starting with 3 lbs for two 30 minute sessions per day. After a solid week with this weight and time I increased the hang time by another 10 minutes, then after another week 10 more minutes, until I was up to a full hour with no complications. Then I added two pounds, but dropped back down to 30 minutes and repeated the same process over again. Remember the two fold goal is to reach fatigue and develop skin conditioning. Going heavier and longer isn’t a shortcut to greater / faster gains.
Now let me give you some inside baseball information on how to prevent a blister. There’s a distinct sensation to be aware of during your hang session, and if you can tune into it you will prevent a blister. If at any time during your hang session you feel a slight itchy or tingly sensation on the tip of your penis then that’s the red flag signal that you need to immediately stop your hang. If you ignore it or don’t recognize it you will develop a blister. If you heed this advice you will be on the road to successful weight hanging that will manifest length and girth gains and help you avoid blisters!
If you stop your hang once you feel this sensation, remove your chamber and inspect your penis / meatus skin. If you see a very small blister forming, say the size of a BB, leave it alone. Usually the next day your body will have absorbed the little bit of fluid and the skin will have re-attached. If however the blister is larger, say the size of a pea then sterilize a needle, pop and drain it, but don’t remove the skin! Apply some anti-biotic ointment like Polysporin or Neosporin and cover it with a small band aid to keep your clothing from rubbing against the area and aggravating it. Give it time to heal, usually 3 - 5 days depending on the severity and size of the blister. Begin to trim the dead skin away with some cosmetic scissors or a pair of fingernail clippers. During this healing time continue to do your hand stretching exercises. Do not pump or hang during the healing process. Bottom line…. live and learn. Once you resume your weight hang training you want to drop your hang weight and time by at least 50% while you recondition that new virgin skin. Then incrementally work back up to where you once were. The primary goal is to find a weight that you can successfully hang with for a full hour with no complications. Once you reach that goal then and only then should you think about adding more weight.
There’s one more potential blister creator, and that’s using too much vacuum pressure! Typically I recommend using as little vacuum pressure as needed. Remember this is not a penis pump! All you want is enough vacuum pressure to create a good seal between your penis skin and the silicon sleeve. The skin / sleeve seal is what allows the chamber to hold vacuum. If the integrity of that seal is compromised then you’ll likely experience weight slippage, and most guys try and counter act that with more vacuum. I suggest as a guideline to use no more than 10 Hg’s of vacuum pressure. I feel it’s extremely important to have a hand pump that accurately indicates Hg pressure.
Making sure you properly maintain your silicon sleeve will go a long ways in preventing vacuum leaks and weight slippage. I recommend after 30 - 40 hours of training that you remove your sleeve from your chamber and wash it with warm / hot water and anti-bacterial dish soap. Blow dry it with a hair dryer or clean cotton towel (no paper towels - too much lint). This will help restore your rubber’s sealing capabilities and tackiness, and also prolong the life of your rubber. Sleeves do wear out, but if properly cared for they should last a minimum of 4 months. If you start to experience weight slips due to vacuum leaks then it’s time for a new rubber sleeve.
I hope this helps those of you who have experienced the set back of a blister! Just remember to be patient and think marathon and not sprint.

Weight?

Originally Posted by Daddy12234567
Bundled Hang SD - (2 HRS L twist, 2 HRS R twist), BTC Hang - (4 HRS).. Thinking about hanging BTC first so maybe the tunica take more stress during the bundled hang SD? Feel fatigue really well during the bundled part I think ?

Very curious how much weight you’re using while doing a Bundle hang for 4 hours, and how much rotation are you doing?180 degrees = half turn, 360 degrees - full turn, 540 degrees = 1 1/2 turn rotation
What vac hanger are you using? How do you define fatigue?

Hey guys,

Been hanging for about 8 months now and I’ve seen what I consider great results for a hard gainer. Been dealing with blisters about 1/4 of each month on average, but I have been able to keep from blistering better in the last 2-3 months. I started at (after trial and error) 10 lb and am up to 15 pounds now. Here’s a lot of tips I’ve learned along the way.

3/20/2019 - FL length: 8 12/16, BPEL: 8 2/16, EG: 6 2/16
5/20 - FL:8 15/16, BPEL: 8 6/16, EG 6 4/16
7/20- FL 9 1/16, BPEL: 8 8/16, EG: 6 7/16
9/11- FL: 9 2/16 BPEL 8 10/16, EG: 6 6/16
11/14- FL: 9 6/16, BPEL 8 11/16 EG: 6 6/16

- after I started going over 11 pounds with the cheap cup I would inevitably get blisters. The problem was, I started at 10 lb and plateaued at 11.5, for months. Like 4. I bit the bullet and bought the LG hanger. Probably should have done it a little earlier, if not just started with it and saved 60$.
-I thought I was using enough tape. I covered the entire head with at least 1 layer of tape and would double tape the base to seal. This wasn’t enough! At least double layer your entire head and base of shaft. Areas of common blister site, triple. I go through a 10 yard roll in under 2 weeks but I haven’t had blister since, except once..
- the last time I blistered it was from a previous large blister scar tissue, where I rushed back in about a week, had the slight scar tissue, and was able to hang with it for about a month. On my second day using 16 lb it popped up, big and ugly. I gave it 2 whole weeks to heal, until all the skin on the head was uniform. I started back two weeks ago at 13 lb and just worked my way back to 15.
- as far as blisters, I pop and drain mine immediately. For smaller blisters this allows me to come back in about a 5-7 days. I begin masturbating/sex around day 3 or 4 as I think the blood circulation let’s the skin heal faster.
-when I move to a heavier weight, I usually do just one set the first/second day. I always check the skin after a set but especially on these days, checking for raised or loose looking skin (almost shriveled looking) on the head. When in doubt, wait it out.
- my sweet spot for time is 30-35 minutes per set. I can get up to 40-45 sometimes but it can get dicey, so I err on the side of caution. I’d like to do 2x45, but I’m slowly working my time per set up this time.
- -Taking 5-7 days off is such a long time to have to wait, plus you’re allowing the tissue to heal, making it harder to stretch next time..
-I almost always take weekends off, and I am 99% sure it’s slowing my progress. I just don’t have any privacy unless I get up at 6-7 am, and that’s a no for me. But if I happen to find time, I do/should.
-On top of double or triple taping, I started taping completely erect, and with baby powder all over the head and the rear of the shaft. I also band aid the rear of the shaft right below the head after baby powder, but before taping (I’m uncircumcised and the foreskin in the back tends to get swollen). You may not have to band aid, but def baby powder to keep moisture away.
-My theory on taping erect is that the head is fully and equally engorged. I tape it snug then let it go soft, usually in the heating pad which seems to help. When vacuum suction is up (I’m usually around 11-15 hg but I honesty don’t measure after I’m hanging) the tape allows the head to expand no further than what’s ‘natural’ for it (theoretically). Also hence the extra tape.
-I’m circumcised and I pull the skin back enough to tape it flat but not enough to deform the head.
- I always use the heating pad for about 5-10 minutes before my first set, and 5 minutes between sets. If you don’t believe the 11 million people who told you to do it on here look up tissue thixotropy and tissue deformation under heat. I did..
-I put the cup on and seal, pump to 20 hg, and roll the rubber down then let all the suction out. I then pump back to 20 hg and give it a little tug to check how comfortable it is. I’m basically feeling for any sharp pain to let me know if my tape job is off or if I need to be cautious. Then I let all the suction out and re pump to about 2 hg before hanging. No real reason, saw king snake do it on the vid.
- I gradually lower the plates down by holding the cup for about 30-60 seconds before letting it be fully suspended on its own. Again feeling for sharp pains. Also I think it helps against reflexive muscle contraction.
-A big one I forgot is I can’t do my hanging seated! It might just be me but whenever I sat I would always get sharp pains and blisters. I changed my desk to standing using boxes and books to accommodate. I tape and cup up seated but after that I stand.
-when I started I was doing 3x30 minutes at 10 lbs(after a month of trying to start with 15, blistered, then 13, blistered, then 11.5 and you guessed it). I did this for a month, crept up to 11, would blister. Go back to 10 for a couple weeks, then 11 or 12 for a couple weeks, blister. Go back. After about 5 months I figured I should order the LG hanger.
- - it seems you can use the cheap cup up to about 11 pounds. I read somebody saying the same thing and it seems anecdotally true.
- I started opting for 2x35. I went 2x45 at first but it was too big a jump for 2 sets.
- - I’m toying around with the time still, trying to sneak back up, doing a little more on my first or last set depending on how it’s feeling. I made the change because my new taping method takes 10-15 minutes initially and 5-10 minutes the second time around.
-I measure every wed to see if I need to make any changes to my program and it helps me to project future measurements. This is a psychological boost but also super necessary so you’re not shooting in the dark.
- I chart daily; time, sets, weight and whether I felt fatigued (EG No Ft or Ft 15 mins into last set, etc.) These couple of seconds keeps me accountable and makes what I’m doing evidence-based instead of guessing and hoping.

I should say I’m not a beginner to PE. Been doing it more on than off for 8 years probably, with less than an inch of results girth or length. Also, I was using the spring noose stretcher for about a year, which is 8 lbs of pressure max. I can’t say if I was seeing much results from it but I’m sure it helped condition my penis to higher loads. I’m saying all that to say you should probably start with a lighter weight and measure Weekly for a month to see if you’re making progress. If you are, stay at the weight. If you haven’t for a week or two, try a pound or so heavier.

Hope this helps someone, good luck everybody.

DIY Vacuum Hanger

I am mainly an extender guy but I am interested in DIY-ing a vacuum hanger. I found this thread on Phalloboards Ready to pull the trigger on lenth only. - PhalloBoards (Version 2.0)

Where a guy made what looks like maybe a poor man’s LG hanger. I would like to try to make something like the hanger pictured in the above link. However, the How to instructions thread link is bunk

And the guy who made this particular DIY hanger has not been active on the forum in over 4 years. Does anyone on here have any advice on how I could make my own hanger like the one pictured in the link above? Did he use a pvc pipe and pvc end cap? It would be interesting to hear about any successful diy vacuum hangers.

DIY vacuum hanger

Originally Posted by manwithnoname
I am mainly an extender guy but I am interested in DIY-ing a vacuum hanger. I found this thread on Phalloboards Ready to pull the trigger on lenth only. - PhalloBoards (Version 2.0)
Where a guy made what looks like maybe a poor man’s LG hanger. I would like to try to make something like the hanger pictured in the above link. However, the How to instructions thread link is bunk
And the guy who made this particular DIY hanger has not been active on the forum in over 4 years. Does anyone on here have any advice on how I could make my own hanger like the one pictured in the link above? Did he use a pvc pipe and pvc end cap? It would be interesting to hear about any successful diy vacuum hangers.

Looked at the linked posts mentioned, and they are nearly six years old. In order to make an effective vacuum hanging device you need some type of closed cup or shortened penis pump cylinder, preferably with a pneumatic female fitting along with a hand pump that has a compatible male fitting. Then you need a quality silicon sleeve that fits your penis and provides a good seal that keeps vacuum from leaking. Attaching a hook to the mechanism is important too. Whatever you use it has to be strong enough to handle the amount of weight you intend to use. If you drill and tap a hole for the hook into the cup or shortened penis chamber you need to make sure that it is sealed with some sort of glue or silicon rubber so that vacuum doesn’t leak out.

I applaud the DYI guys, I think they have a greater appreciation for stuff that is professionally made once they find out how difficult and time consuming it is to make something on their own.

Weight-6lbs

Originally Posted by LGHanger

Very curious how much weight you’re using while doing a Bundle hang for 4 hours, and how much rotation are you doing?180 degrees = half turn, 360 degrees - full turn, 540 degrees = 1 1/2 turn rotation

What vac hanger are you using? How do you define fatigue?

6lb start.. Drop as session goes on.360 degree rotation.. As for fatigue.. Ig the weight gets heavy like I’m tired of holding it .. So I drop weight and during BTC I get this kind of mild burn type feeling around the base.. Sides, bottom and top

Low weight Vac hanger?

Hi, I’m some months into a manual routine and would love to hang low weight for some sets every evening.
The big hanger looks terrifying, so I would love to use a vac hanger.

Has anyone experience with cheap vac hangers at low weights?
I saw a lot of offers on alibaba from China. I guess I can’t post links.

Thanks for any answers!

Getting what you pay for

Originally Posted by WideD
Hi, I’m some months into a manual routine and would love to hang low weight for some sets every evening.
The big hanger looks terrifying, so I would love to use a vac hanger.

Has anyone experience with cheap vac hangers at low weights?
I saw a lot of offers on alibaba from China. I guess I can’t post links.

Thanks for any answers!

Like everything else from China…. what they produce is junk that won’t last very long and will easily be broken.
You might be better off staying with your hand stretching while saving for a quality vacuum hanger.
Any vac hanger from China will be a plastic injected little cup that is shallow, pulls from the glans and not the shaft and will be unable to handle heavier weight.
Low weight hangers are ineffective at promoting any type of significant gain, and you are right to be wary of a compression clamp that cuts off blood circulation.

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