Too Much?

I started back hanging two weeks ago Monday and use a 5 on 2 off routine. I also do a pretty extensive manual routine on the same 5 on 2 off schedule.

Warm up: 20 min heat wrap

Hanging: 3 x 15 min @5 lb., with 10 min in between sets spent light jelqing

Warm up: 20 min heat wrap

Stretching: Long slongs, bundled, inverted A & V stretches (each direction 30 secs)

Pump: 10 min ( I have a suction pump, John’s only pump)

Jelq: 30 min (mixed with edging, uli’s and caterpillars)

Clamping: 2 x 20min (jelqs, edging, bends and uli’s)

Cool down: 10 min icing while wearing my extender, after icing i leave it on until i go to bed (wenchimaster adaptation)

I try to hang early and try to take at least two hours between hanging and manual routines.

My question is, am I over doing it as far as making gains. I know how to watch my P.I.’s, and don’t seem to be showing any negative sign’s still get morning wood and great erection’s. I guess I want to know if it is possible to do extreme workouts and not show negative signs due to years of conditioning but not be benefiting your self. I made great gains particularly with girth in two months with my manual routine but started hanging to acquire more length.

I would like to know what some of the vet’s in hanging think about this type of strenuous workout. In two weeks I haven’t seen any length gains and I am just getting the wrap down.

I think the most important question is…are you gaining from this?
I would give the entire thing maybe 2 months (anyone welcome to comment on this time frame) while carefully measuring. In case you haven’t gained try to change it.

Everyone is different and people react completely different to the workouts. I did not have any negative P.I.’s from my workouts either but did not gains in a very very long time. Instead of being smart and changing my approach I “insisted”.
Don’t be as dumb as I was - if you don’t gain change your routine but give it some time because most of us don’t grow overnight (unless they are newbies or just very lucky)

GG ( Gentle Giant ), I would say “stalling” would mean 3 months without gains. That would be weights too.

Some times upping the intensity or volume helps and other times backing out of it helps.

But if your “backing up”, IE losing size, erections, etc - or in weights actually getting weaker, smaller and worse SICK very
Often you do need to change something.

Thanks Gentle Giant, that helps. I will give it more time and measure closely. I just wanted to get a few other opinions before I went on further with this full routine. I think I will have to invest in a metal ruler as the plastic one may be bending slightly trying to do BPEL.

Optimalss, I might be miss reading, but do you mean sick as far as overall health like a cold. I haven’t been I’m just wondering what you meant.

In weight lifting, not PE weights - some of the principles are the same.

If you go too hard for too long, you can become sick easier, that would include cold and flu-like symptoms.

It is not an excuse not to go “too hard” for some time, it’s just at some point it lose effectiveness and it’s best to back off.

Were finding that the period at which things need to be changed is 2-3 months of plateu. That would be PE too.

My thing for that was “If you plateu in PE for 3 months, change the “basis” for the workout”. If it was length, change to girth. If it was girth change to length, it will get things moving again.

It’s why some of us measure montly or less. “TGC Theory” describes in detail this type of concept.

I personally found out by accident, just trying things.

I’d say pretty much the same of the G Giant and opt2 posts.

I also want to start hanging everyday as I see many members hang everyday. I think I can handle it but again I don’t want to over do it. Furthermore, is a hour of hanging each day too much for the first month of consistent hanging.

Ok, thanks Optimalss. I try to do a combination of length and girth so to have a well balanced workout. In this case what would be a good way to change up. Would it be best to then focus on one or the other after a plateau? When I do something I have to give it my all that, is why I am trying to learn as much as I can about the subject.

I have decided to give hanging a full attempt but I am worried about losing girth. I have read here that it does not cause much if any girth lose but I have also read that it may cause minor girth lose.

This is why I am reluctant to stop my manual routine or even cut down on it.

I think many hangers suggest at least 2 hours a day hanging. Many, also bemong vets, think that everyday hanging is best for length, even it’s not an undisputed question.

Try to stay low on weight and listen to your body.That’s it.

Stretching and hanging, you can do 5 days a week, as long as your PI’s are staying OK (you need some rest). Jelqing, pumping and clamping take more recovery usually; if your PI’s are still good including those in your routine, you may be becoming fairly heavily conditioned. The problem with becoming heavily conditioned is ‘tissue memory’, once you have been heavily conditioned, your penis will ‘remember’ the state and will condition again fast in the future.

Also, although I am a serious proponent of warming up, you really only need to warm up until your penis is fully warmed all the way through to the temperature you want it to be. Warming longer than that probably won’t be greatly more beneficial, and if you already have a very long routine, it’s a way to cut it down on time a bit.

If you feel you are not making gains from this routine, or are getting too conditioned, take a long decon break and start very lightly after, so as to not re-condition too fast. I sometimes think routines like this are routines of desperation, but you already have very good size, so I’ll be very interested to read of your results from this routine.

Thank you for sharing Beezee.

This is your first post so I assume you are new to PE.
I’ve been PEing for about 5 years now and will give you my experience. No advise here at all. Just my experience.

During the first 6 months of PE all I did was manual exercises. Stretches, jelqing and so on. Over that time I built up to 1 1/2 hours a day exercising my dick. Gains were very good but the toll on my hands and arms was incredible. I went from 6” BPEL and 5 1/4” girth to somewhere around 7” BPEL and 6” girth.
Finally I bought a Bib Hanger. Hung for around 3 or 4 months, gained another 1/4 inch or so.
I was hanging around 12 pounds max. Most guys say they gain from hanging between 12 and 17 pounds but my dick couldn’t take that kind of weight.
So I quit and didn’t do any PE at all.
6 months later I measured my cock. Low and behold I was at 7 1/4” by 6” girth mid shaft. Base girth was at 7”.
I all I can say is the time off let my cock relax and it realsesed itself getting the extra 1/4”.

Today I do kegals when I drive from client’s house to clients house. Pump at 8 to 10 HG for 15 minutes once or twice a day and do 150 to 300 jelqs a day.
From my calculations I’m about 85% larger than when I started PE.

Keep it going my friend.

Falcon

Hey thanks for the advise Firegoat, I have been reading about the decon breaks but have never taken one. If I stall after two more months of this routine I will take a decon break and hope for growth. I feel that I may be getting desperate as well but I just really want that 8in NBPL. My girth is not as big of deal as it is already fairly large, but I would like another 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch.

I will definitely keep taking the two days off from manual routines but I think I will start to hang everyday to see how it works for me. Thanks for that advice on heating, that will help cut time off of my lengthy routine which I desperately need.

I’m really worried about loosing gains so it’s hard to cut anything out of my routine. I know I shouldn’t be this way but we all know this stuff is addicting. I’m willing to try new things to reach my goals and advice from you guy’s is always helpful.

Falcon, that is very interesting how the time off brought so much of a gain. If this doesn’t work for me I will be trying an extended break as well.

Falcon, very interesting post, thank you for sharing.

However, 8+ hg is a bit too much according to many vets pumpers - I’m not really an expert on pumping, but I guess gprent and avocet8 would suggest less pressure.

Of course, you could be the exception to the general rule.

Only thing I can say about this routine is:

Why are you doing the jelqing and clamping? If you’re going for length from hanging/manual stretching, focus on that rather than including girth excercises. If you do both length & girth at the same time it’ll make either harder to achieve.

Don’t worry about PI’s with stretching/hanging. Not hanging/stretching is a negative PI.

There’s 800 manual stretch and hanging style excercises you can do instead of girth work. Explore those if you’re bored.

2 hours a day minimum, 24 hours a day maximum on the hanging. 24 is an exaggeration but you get the point. Time not under tension is unproductive.

~L