Surely gains don't come from stretching ligs!

I think I see what you’re getting at. :-k

I’ll have to meditate on it…ommmmmm

Question: If the Lig doesn’t stretch then how can you get more erect length? and if you cut the lig completely you don’t get more length? I’m confused…..!

I’m interested about how much extra length can be gained by a)stretching the ligs (or moving their effective attachment point) and by b)stretching/growing the shaft/tunica of the penis.

If someone made a big gain of 2”+ over a few years of natural PE, what proportion of the gain would be due to a) and how much due to b)

Ideally I would like to gain length more by b) than by a) but will happily take any a) gains that happen.:)

I don’t think it’s the ligs that cause length gains as well. I think it’s the inner penis that you pull outside of the body is the reason for legth gains. That’s why it’s improtant to stretch the skin too so the inner penis could have a chance to come out..it makes sense I guess..

I’m probably being stupid but i thought stretching the ligs means you can pull more penis out so when erect because its still joined(unlike surgery)your longer but when there cut in surgery it only gives flaccid length because its hanging lower now but because its not attached anymore erect length wont happen.lol that sounds a bit dumb.

I’ve been studying Modestos LOT model, It seems having really loose ligaments with an erection, would make the penis protrude out of the body more, but the shaft would not actually be any longer. Also laying the erect penis against your stomach, having really loose ligs would not get you any futher towards your belly button(my goal is to touch it eventually). I can see how loose ligs could help a flaccid, as you would hang lower. Hanging down could still result in erect gains as you are still stretching your tunica, however it seems stretching up would be better for erect gains as how long/heavy you hang is not determined by what your ligs can take (the tunica can take allot more) in a straight down hang. Perhaps If we are unconcluded we could comprimise with straight out, as it is a balance of tunica and ligs specific to the angle when in an aroused state, which is the state most of us wish to enlarge in.

Yes, this would seem ideal. I have read somewhere that the tribes who are known to practice hanging weights from the penis, lay flat on some kind of surface with a hole in it through which their weiners hang SO.

If you play with the model, you can see that changing the attachment point along the pubic symphysis from High to Low causes the inner penis to get shorter and the outer penis to get longer.

I think this answers the question. If you make the outer penis longer, you get a bigger “dick,” even if the length of the shaft, as measured as the sum of the inner penis and the outer penis, stays the same.

Curiously, your bigger “dick” won’t extend any further up the abdomen than before (unless there are some shaft gains to go along with the lig stretching). However, the exit point of your penis from your abdomen will drop down. In other words, the bottom of your erection will drop down, rather than the top of it coming higher up.

Thanks for that model Modesto. I was wondering about ligament physiology, and stetching the ligament with heavy weights. In cartiliage I could see using heavy weights as beneficial as hopefully it would encourge hyperplasia, but in ligaments microtears would form, and heal when the penis is in a shortened state(penis likes to retract after hanging). You could also get scar tissue, which would make it even tougher to lengthen the ligs next time. Much like an athlete who gets numerous muscle tears finds it hard to build flexiblity afterwards due to the toughening and loss of elasticity in his/her muscle.

Aaaah! :up: This does make sense. Although it means that any perceived gains are in fact some kind of illusion.

The only reason therefore, that we are measuring larger than before is that we can move the ruler further in due to a shifting of the base position.

You got it! Although I’m not sure it’s really cheating. The extra length you gain is still insertable, to a point.

Kinda depressing though.

Yes I suppose some of those gains are insertable in certain positions.

Does this mean you’re only going to do girth work from now on, Zigga? :D

GM

Oh hell no!