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Shaft Exit Point from the Body and BTC Hanging

Originally Posted by Bib

At whatever point the ligs attach to the tunica for each individual, when the ligs become a certain length, even at a BTC angle, the amount of stress approaches zero on the ligs, and approaches 100% on the tunica.

Bib,

So, for a guy like me with a low LOT who hangs BTC, my tunica will take the stress when my ligs reach
their limit?

But, will it only apply stress to the top side (top of penis) of the tunica because of the arc from the BTC position?

Could you provide more clarification on the “exit point”?
You mentioned in another thread that you determined this on yourself from your “base”, or an area near the
prostate. I’m confused.
How do I determine if I have a high/low exit point?

Do you believe it is most common for one to have?:
Low LOT
High EA
Low Exit Point

Is the above correct?

Bib’s Illustration from This Thread is excellent and really helped me understand LOT.

If anyone else is interested in these topics/questions
I recommend the following threads:
Good Thread
Another Good Thread


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>>How do I determine if I have a high/low exit point? <<

I’ve always wondered the same. Can this be determined only with respect to change in one’s own anatomy over time (“my exit point has dropped”), or can you simply look at a naked dude and determine whether his exit point is low or high? If the latter, two photo exemplars of guys with low vs. high exit points would be helpful. Could anyone try putting that in the pictures forum?


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I can answer this one....

If you have a high exit point, you will more than likely have a high erection angle. A high exit point would be if your penis sticks straight out or up when flaccid. This is most often accompanied by high balls as well. A high exit point is farther away from the prostate close to where the penis anchors in the body at the pubic bone.

In contrast, a low exit point that gives the more “hung look” appearance, sometimes it looks like the said unit is “hanging” between the legs. Hence the term: hung. I have a low exit point/low erection angle and when warm, my balls hang pretty low. (This has always been like that.) A low exit point is very close to where the penis anchors in the body at the pubic bone.

So to answer your question: how you determine your exit point? Just look at your penis and evaluate where it exits your body in relation to the floor. Is it parallel, above parallel, or below parallel?

Hope this helps….Peace.


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So, BBS, if I understand you correctly, a really low exit point means that the penis emerges from the body between the legs, like where a woman’s vagina is?? (As opposed to a higher exit point, higher than the analogous clit…?)


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I’m glad you brought up temperature (warm/cold),
because my flaccid varies so much.

So, what you are saying is: a man with a high exit point will NOT
hang low even on a hot humid day when 100% flaccid.
Yes?

(bbs, great threads!)


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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Do you believe it is most common for one to have?:
Low LOT
High EA
Low Exit Point

Is the above correct?

Let me rephrase my question so there is no misunderstanding —

Do you believe THE SPECIFIC COMBINATION of these traits are most common?
In other words, If one has A, then he will probably have B and C.


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Helluva,

>”So, BBS, if I understand you correctly, a really low exit point means that the penis emerges from the body between the legs, like where a woman’s vagina is?? (As opposed to a higher exit point, higher than the analogous clit…?)”<

Not to sound redundant, but yes. Just think of it like I said before…a high exit point sits higher on the (lower) ab/pubic area and is further from your prostate.

A low exit point sits lower (hung look) on the ab/pubic area and is closer to your prostate. That’s all there is to it.

Ramrod,

IMO, I think most low exit point guys will also have LOWER erection angles, and a LOWER LOT.

I think low exit and Low LOT are correlated. I’m not sure about EA, but would so say as well because EA could be due to other factors such as erection strength, ED, etc.

Hope this helps. Peace.


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Originally Posted by Bib
This is an extremely interesting theory. While I like my erection angle now, others have expressed an interest in keeping a high angle. It would be interesting to know if only upper angle hanging, OTS etc, could produce this.

Well once again I am the odd duck here. When I first started PE with a high LOT I swear that my EA was higher and over time when I got a nice 6 o’clock LOT my erection angle was about parallel to the floor. Now it seems like my erection angle is going up again with upper angled hanging and a LOT of about 9 o’clock. I prefer having a lower angle because if your unit is pointing up it looks smaller.

Just my experiences, your mileage may vary.

-TF


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>>high exit point sits higher on the (lower) ab/pubic area and is further from your prostate.

A low exit point sits lower (hung look) on the ab/pubic area and is closer to your prostate.<<

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I understand what “low” vs. “high” exit points mean in relative terms — the continuum from ass to navel and whatnot. My question is about an absolute index: I’m not sure just how high qualifies as “high”, or how low as “low”. I have not spent much time around naked men and have not noticed variation in exit points while watching porn. It might be useful for guys like me to have some idea whether their exit point is “high” or “low” from the beginning, rather than just being able to say that it decreased or increased over time. Does that make sense? My usage of the vag/clit analogy was to give an example of an “absolute” index (despite variation in female anatomy too).

Hmm, maybe I’m not being misunderstood here, and you actually agree that a low exit point can mean the penis emerging from literally between the legs, where a vagina would be? I just have such a hard time imagining this… maybe I have a very high exit point.

Thanks for all your time and help!


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Helluvastud:

I categorise myself in the low exit point, low EA, low LOT group. After seeing your pics I would say that you have a high(ish) exit point, I would also say that I was jealous. Anyway, I have drawn some pics that might illustrate the difference between high and low exit points. However if I am way off track: mods feel free to delete the pics, I don’t want to add to the confusion.

Melv

p.s. Great thread HairyGuy (if you are still around), and nice posts BBS.

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Ram,

>So, for a guy like me with a low LOT who hangs BTC, my tunica will take the stress when my ligs reach their limit?<

Your outer tunica will always have stress. The important thing is that as the ligs stretch, the stress on your inner tunica will continue to increase as the stress on the ligs decreases, at the BTC angle of stretch.

However, the stress on the ligs will never reach zero. So, if you do not have any potential for gains from lig stretch at the moment, you should raise your angle of hang, or stress, to allow all of the stress to be on the inner and outer tunica, taking the ligs out of the picture, and possibly increasing your LOT.

>But, will it only apply stress to the top side (top of penis) of the tunica because of the arc from the BTC position?<

This will depend on other factors such as attachment of the hanger, etc. In the BTC angle, the stress will only be on the outer tunica and ligs for most guys. I do not believe it will have too large of an effect on what area of the outer tunica that receives the stress.

>Could you provide more clarification on the “exit point”? You mentioned in another thread that you determined this on yourself from your “base”, or an area near the prostate. I’m confused. How do I determine if I have a high/low exit point?<

I will try to come up with some drawings that make this clearer.

>Do you believe it is most common for one to have?:
Low LOT
High EA
Low Exit Point<

I believe, in general the corellation between LOT and exit point is very high. But EA is not correlated because of other influences, such as the shape of the tunica.

hellava,

>I’ve always wondered the same. Can this be determined only with respect to change in one’s own anatomy over time (“my exit point has dropped”), or can you simply look at a naked dude and determine whether his exit point is low or high? If the latter, two photo exemplars of guys with low vs. high exit points would be helpful. Could anyone try putting that in the pictures forum?<

I will try to come up with pics also.

Tom,

>Well once again I am the odd duck here. When I first started PE with a high LOT I swear that my EA was higher and over time when I got a nice 6 o’clock LOT my erection angle was about parallel to the floor. Now it seems like my erection angle is going up again with upper angled hanging and a LOT of about 9 o’clock. I prefer having a lower angle because if your unit is pointing up it looks smaller.<

Your ligs probalby DO have an effect on EA. As your LOT goes up or down, so goes your EA. But everyone please realize, this is not the case for everyone, thus the non-correlation.

It is very interesting to be able to see the difference LOT makes solely by examining erection angle. But this is surely not the case for everyone, and probably not many.

Bigger

From those pictures, one should note how people with high SEP’s have their flaccid shaft initially extend parallel to the ground and THEN droop down. Those with low SEP’s droop down even at the start of their shaft. If my understanding of this is incorrect, someone please put me in my place…(lol, yea right…But seriously, please correct me)


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Originally Posted by Bib
>But, will it only apply stress to the top side (top of penis) of the tunica because of the arc from the BTC position?<

This will depend on other factors such as attachment of the hanger, etc. In the BTC angle, the stress will only be on the outer tunica and ligs for most guys. I do not believe it will have too large of an effect on what area of the outer tunica that receives the stress.

Bigger

This raises another question:
When attaching the hanger for my BTC hanging, I noticed a diffrence if my Starter is tilted either more
forward or backward on my penis.
Does this have a direct affect on the tunica stress being applied?

Bib, you wrote:
>I believe, in general the corellation between LOT and exit point is very high. But EA is not correlated because of other influences, such as the shape of the tunica.<

This is Low LOT/Low EP
and High LOT/High EP?

Could you evaluate the pics that Alrdybig has posted?


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Ram,

>This raises another question: When attaching the hanger for my BTC hanging, I noticed a diffrence if my Starter is tilted either more forward or backward on my penis. Does this have a direct affect on the tunica stress being applied? <

I would think so. I could get different stresses with just a little difference in tilt to the hanger etc.

>This is Low LOT/Low EP
and High LOT/High EP?<

Yes.

>Could you evaluate the pics that Alrdybig has posted?<

I think to get a good evaluation, the pics would have to be from straight on so that you can merge the groinal lines to see where the bottom of the pubic bone is. Then, you can relate the exit point to the bottom of the pubic bone. I made a drawing illustrating this, but I do not know how to upload it.

Any help?

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