Reaching Fatigue with VacHanger increasing Resistance No Gains!

So I’ve been hanging SD with the VacHanger for several weeks now and have gone up from 7.5lbs to say 12.5lbs. I’ve been hanging for forty five minutes in the morning and 45 at night with manual stretching throughout the day and I am soon going to add Monty’s Weights and a Jelly Cock ring into the picture.

My concern is I haven’t seen any length gains and yet my penis is now capable of resisting more weight. I normally feel weird tingly sensations during the day after a hanging session and I feel great fatigue during the first three to five minutes of a hanging session…as if it’s reopening everything that was trying to heal but afterwards I really do not feel that deep fatigue but more a slight fatigue for the rest of my session.

I notice if I bend forward as to touch my toes that the two ligs on either side of my penis are strained and if I lean back the lig on top of my penis running down it’s center is heavily strained. I’ve used a hammer handle for a fulcrum and a pvc pipe but then there was no fatigue what so ever and my tunica could easily support 12.5 lbs for a 45 minute session, no fatigue. However without the fulcrum I know I’m just stretching my ligs, or at least so it feels.

But it is not an incredible stretch after say the first 3 to 5 minutes, I feel this incredible stretch in that small time frame and then I feel a slight strain on my ligs (depending how I stand, leaned back or tilted forward) for the rest of my session.

I’m trying to figure out what I may be doing incorrectly here to prevent my penis from being capable of resisting any more weight without and gains in length. Originally 5 lbs was an incredible stretch, now that’s almost comparable to hanging with Monty’s Weights.

I have a low LOT and honestly I do not feel any shaft behind the skin exit point so I’m wondering also if stretching SD is going to offer any length gains because I have no tunica to pull out.

Also I have gained previously .5 inch with just jelqing (half hour sessions) and intense V stretches in my flaccid length but not erect and when I was gaining it felt as if my tunica was sore, my ligs at each side were sore, and my ligs on top and bottom were sore…. It felt as if the entire penis was sore… like when you worked out a muscle and you get this great fatigue the next day… and it was heavy… felt great but I got injured and stopped for a few weeks to let this sensitive vein heal and voila I lost the fatigue I had in my ligs and tunica.

Been on Porn detox, hard for me to maintain erections or get erections… For whatever reason I was able for a brief period of time to get healthy erections again and I was able to Jelq and V stretch etc and it was incredible but now erection quality back in the shit hole. I tried taking a break from PE all together but I think that made it worse. So I’m trying ways to increase length that do not require an erection.

I’m not getting that with this, and I only feel soreness if I pull my penis straight down or if I have the VacHang on and do manual stretches but without it I don’t feel much pulling in any direction.

Warmest Regards,
Bugs

Any thoughts?

How are you hanging up to 12.5 pounds with the vac hanger? I can only do 5.5 pounds for 20 minutes before the glans becomes swollen and purplish from the vacuum. I’d love to hang more but honestly I’ve been doing just 20 minutes at 5.5 pounds and feeling a good stretch.

I am no veteran to any of this and I have no idea how long you have been doing PE but my first thoughts were that you might be over doing things. I can guarantee I would not be able to get an erection after hanging 12.5 pounds. I know people do that and more but I assume they took a lot of time to build up to that. You may just be working out the ligaments and making them stronger. I know PE is not the same as bodybuilding but there is a limit to how much your body can do and still recover. There is a curve of benefit to workout time and intensity. Once you go on to extended super high intensity workouts you are just creating too much injury to ever repair and build up new muscle. Unless you have fantastic genetics or are on steroids.

I know that I have a tendency to over do my PE workouts and when I do my EQ suffers. I have to hold back on piling on more weights with hanging or pumping up the pressure too high. I don’t always follow this but its probably best to under do the workout. If your PI’s are great you can slowly increase but if your PI’s are bad you need to back down. I’m actually going to read the Less is More article by Sparkyx today just to reinforce these things myself.Good luck with everything.

LOT theory is total bullshit and has been proven wrong, just more pseudoscience.

How the hell could you know that you’ve made no gains if you can’t get quality erections?! It’s very important that you get an erection every day; get over the whole porn detox phase and just use it moderately.

I was going to suggest increasing time and changing angles, but getting quality erections is more important. Start getting erections again, then work on improving your hanging. Note: I’m not telling you to stop hanging, just start watching porn and get into the habit of getting hardons.

I agree with HangerMan5000! When we hang erection should be our first goal before the gains. If you do not improve your EQ while on hanging routine you may be overdo it or under do it. When I start hanging my EQ improved a lot in only 10 days and it remain up to now

I have to agree with both of the above. Your EQ should be good. If your not using an ADS, adding that into your routine will smooth out your gains. The problem as I see it is your probably overworking and your experiencing some retraction as a defensive posture of your penis.
Frankly I can’t figure how your doing 12.5lbs for 45 minutes. That’s a long hang and your nearing the limit of a Vac hanger. Blisters become a real problem at upper weights.

<So I’m trying ways to increase length that do not require an erection.>

I do have one question: What system requires an erection?

Pretty new to this van hanger is working it seems. I feel I do 30 minutes BTC and so and whatever belly button down sitting upside down on the desk is called, UK upside down hang. Then I use stealth weights and fishing lead wire as an all day hanger. I use scuba clip on weights and add weight to the ADS that is the vachanger. Only been doing for a month. Stopped doing girth for now due to a ton of problems with bathmate. Need air pump with gauge if anyone has suggestions. With vachanger definite noticeable flaccid gain. Not sure on erect gains yet. Ordered large head version instead of medium to see if glans expands. I don’t take any days off but some days I take easy. I feel out the ligs that need stretching and maintain that for 30 minutes. ADS or manual 30 sec tug stretch. Anyway, I honestly don’t know crap yet, but I am seriously obsessed and will master this.

If you feel some slight or intense thing at the begining, that indicates exactly as you said, some modicum of stretch was done the day before , was healing, and you pull it back again.

The problem in my opinion is that ammount of fatige-damage isnt enough and you are healing it daily and strengthening because if you arent feeling much fatigue that forces you to drop weight during sets, then your tissues are comfortable. why would they change size?

that initial feelings is something i feel with my initial warmup set of 1-2 kg, 15 minutes, or second warmup if I need it, with 2-3 kg 10-15 minutes. After that, the sensation extinguishes and its time to move up in weight up to some weight that feels defeating your collagen somewhat.
When that real fatigue sets in, a intense feeling comes, and you can drop weight but the feeling stays, and that´s where you want to be, despite dropping weight. til you complete your planned sets.

But if you are feeling nothing intense, you can consider it the routine you would do to build robust ligaments in any other part of the body, allowing you to go behind the collagen regeneration and adding weight that never defeats collagen ressistance. Then you fall into a strengthening routine.

I’ve been getting results from a light weight all day hanger of .5 lb..

I just wear it when I feel like it, which is often hours a day. It’s light enough weight that it can be worn comfortably for a few hours before I feel any pain from the stretch.

My experience with stretching with higher weights to the point that the penis doesn’t retract when the weight is removed has been negative. Immediately after the exercise the penis is significantly longer erect and flaccid, but by the next day it is significantly shorter than before and normal erection length doesn’t return for several days. I don’t see how something that causes a reduction in size for nearly a week could be beneficial to enlarging the penis.

When you injure tissue significantly it retracts and then forms scar tissue in the retracted state. It’s possible that keeping the penis continuously stretched in the injured state could cause enlargement, but it would also mean more scar tissue which would hinder future gains. And there is no practical way I know of to keep the penis constantly stretched.

Experience has indicated to me that triggering an injury response, whether by high force stretching, clamping, or even jelqing, is a mistake for long term gains, and the best long term results come from stretching the tissue lightly for enough time that it can remodel the penis in a larger size through normal tissue remodeling pathways that are not in response to injury.

I think that any weight that stretches the flaccid without triggering an injury response, even of a few ounces, would cause growth over time and while I’ve gotten good results from .5 lb. all day hanging I’m contemplating experimenting with even lower weights. .5 lb. after many hours causes pain in the shaft from stretching and presumably a weak injury response.

Many things that seem to make sense initially do not produce the desired results, I gained a significant amount from high force PE in the past, but hit a brick wall as my penis collected scar tissue. A decade later I still have a loss of sensitivity, weaker erections, discoloration, and visible stretch marks. If I was to repeat my life, I would have completely skipped clamping, jelqing, and high force stretching and gone straight into pumping and light weight hanging.

what kind of success you mean by wearing 0.5 pound all day hang?

It’s hard to know with certainty because when I started wearing a .5 lb. hanger I was already pumping, without great results to length. But I attribute 1 to 1.5” of my recent length gains to the .5 lb. hanger. I have not tested using the hanger without pumping every other day, however. The results I’ve gotten while using the .5 lb. hanger might be dependent on pumping also.

I wear the hanger sporadically. Some days I don’t wear it at all, other days I wear it for 7 or so hours, maybe more. It’s pretty comfortable, so the only condition for me to put it on is remembering to and not having edema from pumping. After pumping, I can’t fit it on without cutting off blood flow and it gives me a terrible rash if I walk around with it on with edema.

I tried much higher force stretching using a vacuum hanger and an extender, but it did not seem to be productive at all since it caused my penis to be shorter when erect for several days afterwards.

What´s your pumping routine ? (pressure,time, days on/off)
and how long it took to develop 1-1,5 inch that way?

I am so happy to hear this.

I am going to go this exact route. I have not found a combination routine yet. Do you mind also stating what routine you would do with pumping and hanging if it all could be done over again

Wearing an ADS for 8 hours a day everyday will produce results over time. There are plenty of ways to attach some weight. I would never recommend a donut style ring. There are ball rings with hex screws, stretchy rubber donuts that might weigh 1/4 to 1/3 lb, there are 1.5 inch rings that can be attached by using some of what vacutech has on sale.

Pumping is wonderful at lower pressures and really makes the tissue more pliable, good for stretching.

One way to gain with light weight is to have a daily routine with it. No rest days. I never understood why so many guys would come on here and work their way up to heavy weight routines and then just like clockwork here come the posts about injuries and not gaining. Then right before they vanish they talk about how hanging doesn’t work. Stick with the lightest weight possible for the longest possible time.

The way I see it, total time stretching is the biggest factor. You want to find a combination of tension that is high, but no so punishing you can’t do it all day, and a traction system you can use all day, then actually use it all day. If such a beast existed, I’d recommend people use it. Since it doesn’t, do whatever you can that is the closest to that.