Officially over 7 inches

WOW, I woke up this morning and measured and could not believe my eyes. I did manual PE for a year then hit a wall this summer. I decided to start hanging, bought a BIB and have been hanging BTC for about 3 months now. Before I started hanging I could not seem to reach 7 BPEL. I was stuck at 6 15/16. I measured last month and I was at 7 1/16 and was very excited I had broke the 7” mark. This past week I have hit it pretty hard and got sore in my tunica so I took Thursday and Friday off. Woke up Saturday morning feeling really bigger so I measured and there it was, 7 1/4”. I could not believe it so now I feel I’m back on track again with gains. I am hanging BTC about 8 hours a week and I have seen my LOT go from 9 to about 7:30. I am going to ride this as long as I can and plan to add some SO hanging as well till I see the gains stop. Maybe I am just seeing “newbie hanging gains”.

BTW, I started at 6 1/4 BPEL so am I now in the 1” club?

Congrats my friend.

Awesome! How much weight are you hanging?

My max is 10-11 lbs. And I drop down to 8 when I feel fatigued. 3 - 20 min. Sets min. Per day / everyday taking 2 days off every two weeks. I think I was able to move up fairly quickly because I did so much manual stretching.

I think there is something to this “take time off thing” because I usually did my measurements between the days I worked out. (I don’t measure very much either) I never have measured after the two days of rest before so maybe part if the gains is from that. It seems with me anyway that during a week of hanging my unit is a little stressed even though is does hang longer when flaccid. I think there might be something to these days off.

One other thing I think that is important is what angles you work at. After 2 1/2 months of working BTC I didn’t feel like I was getting as much fatigue as before and thought maybe I needed to do something else that didn’t include moving up in weight. It seemed my gains had stopped too. I did a search here and couldn’t find the answer I was looking for so I contacted Bib. He told me to stay at the same angle I was hanging for another month after I see the gains stop to make sure that there was no more to be had at this angle before changing to tunica stretching. He said I might do some SO hanging but keep the BTC as my primary target. Well that is what I did and there it is, more gains. Bib also said to try to work only one angle at a time to max it out then move to more aggressive attack on the tunica like OTS and SO.

I had read on another thread here that guys we’re saying to work all the different angles but from what I got from Bib, this may not be the best approach.

This is the way he put it to me:
Primary BTC, secondary SO (ligs)
Primary OTS, secondary SO (tunica)

That’s great news, snm.
It’s nice that Bib is still available to help other hangers via e-mail. Whenever in doubt, contact Bib.

Don’t be so hasty attributing your gains to newbie gains. You have been a consistent hanger and your dedication is paying off for you.

As you already know, I’m in favor of sticking with one angle at a time. Why? Because Bib said so. Plus, I think BTC is the best angle to hang anyway. OTS is good too, but it comes with too many complications and drawbacks.

>>After 2 1/2 months of working BTC I didn’t feel like I was getting as much fatigue as before and thought maybe I needed to do something else that didn’t include moving up in weight.<<

Were you worried about the strength-training effect? I can understand if you were, but, at the same time I think if you add 1 pound it can make a world of difference in stress. At some point, it becomes necessary to add weight. And, as I stated before, the strength training effect is probably greatly diminished with a strictly consistent routine. Without time to fully heal, your micro-fibers don’t have much a chance to become stronger.

Keep doing what you’re doing — because it’s working.

Congratulations.

>I had read on another thread here that guys we’re saying to work all the different angles but from what I got from Bib, this may not be the best approach.

You haven’t read that from me. Focus your effort on one line of attack at a time. When BTC has played out for you, I suggest you go for a radical change: OTS. Why this instead of SO?

One, because SO isn’t very specific. The load at this angle is absorbed by a bit of everything, sort of a catch-all. This is not optimum for targeting a single area.

Two, the tissues you will target with OTS haven’t had weight applied to them before, or at least not for a long time. Virgin ground. You might also read about fulcrum hanging.

Great going!!

Ramrod, yes I don’t want to move up too quickly in weight. A few times I have added 1 lb. And it helped get me fatigued quicker. I think that the way you hang BTC has something to do with the gains too. I have just sat in a chair or on the side of the bed and it’s not the same as laying on your back with your legs straight out, believe me, 10 lbs. On your back is a lot!

Hobby, you are starting to sound like Bib. Good stuff.

Bib talks about the seesaw affect which is very interesting. It’s kind of an overall view of the plan of attack.

I do wonder why I got so much gain right from the start because over 1/4 inch seems like a lot for 3 months time when you figure I put in less than 10 hours a week. I’m sure they will slow down real soon and I will have to change my attack.

Do you vets measure after your break or does this make any difference with you. It sure looks like it does with me.

snm

>Hobby, you are starting to sound like Bib… Bib talks about the seesaw affect which is very interesting.

Yeah, my see saw speculation actually turned out to be correct. :)

>I do wonder why I got so much gain right from the start because over 1/4 inch seems like a lot for 3 months time when you figure I put in less than 10 hours a week. I’m sure they will slow down real soon and I will have to change my attack.

1/4” in 3 months is great. Good for you. When your gains slow down greatly or stall, as they eventually will, read about deconditioning.

>Do you vets measure after your break or does this make any difference with you. It sure looks like it does with me.

I like to take 3-5 days off before “officially” measuring. This gives everything time to settle. Residual fluid dissipates and the tissues have time to relax.

>I like to take 3-5 days off before “officially” measuring. This gives everything time to settle. Residual fluid dissipates and the tissues have time to relax.<

Maybe that explains why I saw an increase in length that I didn’t see before.

Do you guys see the BPFSL difference ahead of the PBEL stay about the same as you get gains or do they close up after a while?

wow congratz dude.

For me, so far the gap between BPFSL and BPEL has stayed almost the same as I gained, only widening by about 1/8”.

So Hobby, do you think if you see an increase between BPFSL and BPEL that there are some gains to come to the EL? I’m sure the BPFSL doesn’t shrink and catch BPEL does it? Is this a way to predict gains?

I’ve come to generally expect that when BPFSL increases a similar BPEL increase is probably already there or in the making. But this isn’t always the case. BPFSL can grow a bit while BPEL stays the same.

I had a 1/2” difference for quite a while. Then my BPFSL increased to 5/8” above BPEL and has pretty much stayed there since (so far anyway).

It isn’t uncommon for BPFSL to outpace BPEL. The gap and how much it varies over time seems to be highly individual.

Another factor to consider in this measuring business is that BPEL measurements depend on erection quality. Hard bouts of PE can wear things out enough to temporarily weaken erections. Measuring at, say 95% erection strength instead of 100% will show a difference on the ruler, especially when we’re comparing relatively small fractions of an inch. Always try to measure BPEL with the best erection you can get, preferably one just shy of orgasm.

If you wear a cock ring to get a little extra oomph (not a bad idea), be sure to note in your PE journal (you have one, right?) that the measurement was taken using a cock ring so you don’t later confuse it with a “raw” measurement. I’ve been recording both for some time. For me, a cock ring adds anywhere from nothing to 1/8” over unaided BPEL. 1/16” to 1/8” is typical.

It’s funny how serious we can get about tracking little fractions, but PE requires a lot of effort. Accurate measuring is necessary to determine what is happening.

Interesting Hobby, right now my BPFSL is 1/4” more than my BPEL. I haven’t been tracking but I will now just to see what happens.

As for a PE journal, no I don’t but now I can see where I need to start one.

Thanks,
snm